Most frustrating thing to see in an ad is someone who claims they need to sell "right away", "URGENT!", "NEED GONE!"
But are asking full market value FIRM.
But are asking full market value FIRM.
Stupidly overpriced motorcycle for sale thread
- Thread starter killerkeith
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Didn't have to look to far afield for this one
$11,500 for a non desirable version of a RZ that needs $3000 service and is missing parts.
TK4
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The sad thing is, both this and that Triumph basket case will likely get sold for close to asking. The 'collectible' market is stupid right now.
I get that... but neither of those bikes are "collector" bikes.
The Triumph is a nice riding bike but they made a gazillion 650 Bonnys for a lot of years. Pretty well any one that wants a 650 Bonny probably already has one. They stopped breeding Triumph 650 Bonny buyers sometime around 1964, for the most part.
RZs are at STUPID prices now because of americans, and americans don't want a '85 Canadian "R"... and he has priced his Canadian bike that's in Toronto, that needs a TON of work at California MINT condition RZ levels. If that bike WAS an american '84 model, located in LA he MIGHT get $4,000-4500 USD.
And YES, the sad thing is they will probably sell, to some poor schmuck that doesn't know any better.
And to put my money where my mouth is: If you're looking for "collectable" I'll sell ya a '70 Triumph T100R Daytona, running and certified for $5000CDN or a '89 Canadian RZ with a all new WickedATV banshee motor and Gixxer suspension and SV wheels for $6000 USD (It used to be Gordie Bush's RZ cup bike, but now it has almost 100HP and weighs about 300#)
... or how about a 850 Commando, or a 750 Combat Commando or a '56 Domi 99 or a Triumph TSX or Dave Hugh's TR3 or Brian Henderson's TZ350G or Sharon Boyer's TA125 or a '93 900SS Duc... if you're looking for 'collectable"... get in touch, we'll talk.
TK4
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I'm not a collector, nor do I care - nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
The market is what it is - I would never own an old Brit bike.
I lived through that era and after doing a partial restoration on a chain drive Yamaha 920 then selling it for a lot more than I had in it I have no inclination to do it again.
The average buyer of a 70s Brit bike or muscle car is probably a boomer that has no clue what he is throwing money at other than it was cool back in the day.
You know a LOT more than most buyers will ever know @bitzz.
Mad Mike
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I'm often amazed at what amateur collectors believe their collection is worth. I buy and sell the odd vintage bike, there's no profit in it, and after 30 + years dabbling in antique bikes I don't think I've met an owner that has made steady profit.
The last 2 bikes I sold were listed and delivered on Ebay in the US -- I was surprised to get almost double what I would expect from a local Toronto listing. I think I did make a profit on one of them - maybe $50 bucks!
TK4
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Canadians are cheap.
Really???
Good to know, i just picked up a complete Triumph for $1k. Will probably need a top end, but that's like 500 bucks.
One thing i notice about many amateur collectors is they'll look in other markets (UK and US) and think it is the same here.
RD250s and RD350s sell for at least double in UK as they do here. Same with many brit bikes (ironically)
Mad Mike
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I have 1 old brit bike, a TW25R which is a BSA wearing a Triumph suit. I bought off a guy that started turning it into a trials bike. I off'd his alloy tank and fenders, trading them for an original tank+fenders+seat and all the missing hardware pieces. I liked the the scrambler pipe solo Lycette seat so I kept them on the bike.
It's is really a basic beast, not hard to work on, not hard to find parts. Some weird whitworth fasteners, but those were all in accessory bits like carbs and controls. I updated the stuff that gives these bikes the most headaches -- modern rectifier, 12v lighting, and a mikuni carb (the amal works fine, but I don't like the drippy tickler.
That's the only brit bike I have left, I don't think I'll own another.
I have 2 XV920r bikes (im fond of them). Not everyone's cup of tea, but they are sought after -- mostly as restomod donors however they are beginning to become collectible if unmolested. A regular 920 in nice shape fetches $1000-1100, the R version 2-5x more I had others, one ended up as a Hageman donor, the other is with a US collector.
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Best one I've seen for a while. 12 year old bike with 10 000km. 2020 model is $6k msrp.
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2020 F850GSA @ 26K. MSRP is $16500, with all the bells, whistles and fees it's under 21K new.
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2020 F850GSA @ 26K. MSRP is $16500, with all the bells, whistles and fees it's under 21K new.
Does it belong here?
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2020 F850GSA @ 26K. MSRP is $16500, with all the bells, whistles and fees it's under 21K new.
Well it does have a kickstand enlarger. Not sure what that is but sounds expensive....
The screen protector and kickstand enlarger seem like Alibaba parts. You know you have a good screen protector when they print "instrument screen protector" right on the face.
To be fair to AliExpress, some of the "knock-offs' come from the exact same Chinese factories that produce the stuff that the western motorcycle stamp their names on. They just sell it for 1/10th of the price.
Granted the western companies do have slightly better Quality Control, lessening the probability that substandard or defective products get shipped out to the customer. And better warranty as well.
For parts like those, I am all for aliexpress. If I am trying to sell a bike for thousands more than a new one, I better have rizoma bits on it so at least I can argue value without laughing at myself.
In the ADV world, those are called "Pooratech" parts.
