Stupid speeding ticket, 48 km/h over

[DEA]

<ahem> I will refer you to post #30 of this thread... </ahem>

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yes, my bad

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<ahem> Just curious, what was the actual fax number you sent your disclosure request to? </ahem>

519-940-3685 - found it on http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townhall/poatrafficcourt
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<ahem>Given the fact that you (allegedly) sent the request to the wrong number, the adjournment seems fitting. The JP could have possibly made you proceed given that it was your responsibility to ensure the request was received.</ahem>

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does it mean</ahem> they may charge me with prejudice for getting the court date adjourned and it will affect future 11b chances<ahem>?

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<ahem>I will let the GTAM armchair lawyers and paralegals analyze your disclosure request and the officer's disclosure document.

Thanks for your help!
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[slowbird]

You're lucky DEA.

Last speeding ticket I fought they first gave me disclosure for the wrong day, and then incomplete disclosure.

When I brought it up at the trial the Prosecutor and Judge said the info that was missing didn't matter and they through the book at me.

Good luck

 

[SLaP]

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</ahem>519-940-3685 - found it on http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townhall/poatrafficcourt

<ahem>Quick google search of </ahem>caledon+disclosure+request<ahem> found this ... </ahem>
http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townhall/departments/legalservices/disclosure.asp

Legal ServicesRequesting Disclosure
Once you have received a trial date in regard to a Provincial Offences Certificate, you may request a copy of the prosecutor’s evidence (which may include officer’s notes, witness statements or accident reports) prior to your trial date.
Disclosure requests must be in writing to the attention of the Prosecutor, Legal Services Department, Town of Caledon, at 6311 Old Church Road, Caledon East, L7C 1J6.
The form must be completed in its entirety before it will be accepted. Any missing information may be obtained from the appropriate Provincial Offences Office, in Orangeville at 519-941-5808 or in Caledon East at 905-584-2273.
The completed form must be provided to the Legal Services Department either personally, or faxed to 905-584-5589 to the attention of the Prosecutor, Legal Services. Any missing information may delay the processing of your request.

<ahem> does it mean</ahem> they may charge me with prejudice for getting the court date adjourned and it will affect future 11b chances<ahem>?</ahem>

I think you were given the adjournment since you made the attempt to get the disclosure in advance.
I think that an 11b might be harder now, given that you partially caused the adjournment.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

<ahem>Quick google search of </ahem>caledon+disclosure+request<ahem> found this ... </ahem>
http://www.town.caledon.on.ca/townhall/departments/legalservices/disclosure.asp


I think you were given the adjournment since you made the attempt to get the disclosure in advance.
I think that an 11b might be harder now, given that you partially caused the adjournment.

The Court would likely consider this particular delay to be due to the defendant, but it doesn't preclude the possibility of successfully petitioning.

 

[DEA]

<ahem>I will let the GTAM armchair lawyers and paralegals analyze your disclosure request and the officer's disclosure document.

My next trial date is approaching, still not sure what are my options except paralegals help ...


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[GateKeeper]

We are in the same boat....speeding ticket, picked off via laser, asked for full disclosure, and no way out of it, so only option is go to court on the day of trial, be there 20 minutes early, we will speak to the prosecutor once more to see about getting a reduction, and unfortunately take what is given, pay the fine, take the points, and get ready to take it up the *** by the insurance company......

sometimes we just can't win..........................

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[Sabex]

We are in the same boat....speeding ticket, picked off via laser, asked for full disclosure, and no way out of it, so only option is go to court on the day of trial, be there 20 minutes early, we will speak to the prosecutor once more to see about getting a reduction, and unfortunately take what is given, pay the fine, take the points, and get ready to take it up the *** by the insurance company......

sometimes we just can't win..........................

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Yes you can. Just don't speed, you'll be winning more than charlie sheen.

 

[silverbullet132]

Yes you can. Just don't speed, you'll be winning more than charlie sheen.

Or hope the cop does not show up.

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[Macs]

Or if you're gonna go balls out just invest in a laser jammer and stealth radar detector for sub $1500. Note that that is illegal and subject to a nominal fine for using.

 

[freedomfighter]

if the cop does show it does not matter.unless the cop has a video of you doing something he has nothing.
RWDvs her Majesty the queen. when the its a he said she said the supreme court of canada says you have to rule in the defendant favor.
i spent 5 years and 31000.00 fighting a 110.00 traffic ticket. only to PROVE the cop had come to court and lied in 2 trial dates.
well off to civil court to file a lawsuit against the cops........again

 

[freedomfighter]

You're lucky DEA.

Last speeding ticket I fought they first gave me disclosure for the wrong day, and then incomplete disclosure.

When I brought it up at the trial the Prosecutor and Judge said the info that was missing didn't matter and they through the book at me.

Good luck

in traffic court it's not a judge but a jp you're lucky if the clown has a high school diploma...but they sure as hell don't have a law degree if they did they would be judges making way more cash... you would hit a real judge once you are in the appeal court...
i have won every appeal i have ever started.(5) goes to prove how much jp knows.

 

[DEA]

Update on my ticket: decided to go with what prosecutor has offered me at the end: 29km/h over and 3 points. Looks like cops always show up in those rural courts which leave us with very limited options to fight tickets

 

[Malks]

Looks like cops always show up in those rural courts which leave us with very limited options to fight tickets

With the Caledon OPP Detachment being next door to the Town Hall and Court House, the cop probably just walked over to attend court.

 

[Dr.Manhattan]

I love the misconception that if a cop doesn't show up to trial then it is thrown out. This is not the case ( no pun intended). The crown prosecutor is there with all of the notes, and has probably spoken to the officer at some point in time to fight the case. The police officer is only their to help answer any questions from the Judge and to refute any of your claims.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

I love the misconception that if a cop doesn't show up to trial then it is thrown out. This is not the case ( no pun intended). The crown prosecutor is there with all of the notes, and has probably spoken to the officer at some point in time to fight the case. The police officer is only their to help answer any questions from the Judge and to refute any of your claims.

The officer is the only person who can give proper evidence regarding the stop. If he's not there, you can't examine his evidence. If you can't examine his evidence, then there IS NO evidence.

 

[Macs]

The officer is the only person who can give proper evidence regarding the stop. If he's not there, you can't examine his evidence. If you can't examine his evidence, then there IS NO evidence.

Came here to say this. If the cop doesn't show up you're fighting a notebook and have no chance to challenge the evidence.

 

[murf]

Or if you're gonna go balls out just invest in a laser jammer and stealth radar detector for sub $1500. Note that that is illegal and subject to a nominal fine for using.

Nominal if up to $1100 fine, they Take the $1500 in equipment and watch what happens to your insurance!