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Stupid speeding ticket, 48 km/h over

SLaP said:
"You may do so personally or arrange for another person or delivery service to do so on your behalf"

Couldn't you get purolator or fedex to pickup the disclosure documents? Worth a call to the courts and purolator/fedex.
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I can use purolator or fedex, but as I said I guess it would cost close to the ticket value. I understand that it could bump my insurance, etc in case they give me points, but I hope that plates ticket would not include points - only fine and since it's a minor offence it shouldn't bother insurance OR am I missing something? Please bare with me as I'm fairly new to the country and never dealt with the system here before ...
 
I believe that ticket is a minor offence which can affect your insurance. That plus the speeding ticket could potentially cost you a good chunk.

http://www.insurancehotline.com/tickets-car-insurance-rates/

Points usually have no bearing on your insurance. To your insurance company, a ticket is a ticket, whether or not it has demerit points, it will affect your insurance rate.
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Minor, Major and Serious Convictions: Here’s a list of the ticket classifications and the various types of minor, major, serious, and criminal convictions that will affect your insurance rate:

Minor Tickets

  • Crowding Driver’s Seat
  • Defective Brakes
  • Drivers License Violations
  • Failing To Share The Road
  • Failing To Signal
  • Failure To Use Seatbelts
  • Failing To Yield
  • Failing To Yield To A Pedestrian
  • Failure To Surrender Your License
  • Failure To Produce Evidence Of Insurance
  • Failure To Produce Or Carry Insurance Card
  • Following Too Closely
  • Headlight Offenses
  • Improper Driving In A Bus Lane
  • Improper Lane Change
  • Improper Opening Of Door
  • Improper Passing
  • Improper Towing
  • Improper Turn
  • Improper Use Of Divided Highway
  • Insecure Load
  • Obstructing Traffic
  • Overloading
  • Use Of Radar Warning Device
  • Improper Railway Crossing
  • Speeding
  • Stop Sign Infraction
  • Traffic Light Infraction
  • Trailer Passenger
  • Unnecessary Noise
  • Unnecessary Slow Driving
  • Unsafe Move
  • Unsafe Or Prohibited Turn
  • Unsafe Vehicle
  • View Obstructed
  • Wrong Way On One Way
  • Obstruction Of View
  • Obstruction Of License Plate
  • Driving without an up to date Inspection Sticker
Major Tickets

  • Speeding 60 mph over posted speed limit (or set limit in your province)
  • Failing To Report An Accident
  • Failure To Report Damage To Highway Property
  • All Insurance Offenses
  • False Statement Of Insurance
  • Operating Motor Vehicle With No Insurance
  • Driving With No Insurance
  • Produce False Evidence
  • Driving In Contravention Of Restrictions
  • School Zone, Improper Passing Zone
  • School Bus, Improper Passing, Fail To Stop
  • Speeding in a construction zone is double the fines and points
Serious & Criminal Tickets

  • Driving Impaired, Blood Alcohol Over .08 (or set limit in your province)
  • Careless Driving; Undue Care Or Attention
  • Criminal Negligence
  • Dangerous Driving
  • Driving While Under Suspension
  • Failing To Obey Police
  • Failing To Remain At An Accident Scene
  • Motor Manslaughter
  • Racing
  • Refuse Breathalyzer
  • Stunting / Drag Racing
  • All Serious Convictions; Can Be Unspecified
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DEA said:
I can use purolator or fedex, but as I said I guess it would cost close to the ticket value. I understand that it could bump my insurance, etc in case they give me points, but I hope that plates ticket would not include points - only fine and since it's a minor offence it shouldn't bother insurance OR am I missing something? Please bare with me as I'm fairly new to the country and never dealt with the system here before ...
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Points have NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR INSURANCE!

This plate ticket is EXACTLY THE SAME as a 40km/h over speeding ticket, as far as your insurance is concerned!

Fight it as if your license depends on it (and if your speeding ticket goes through, trust me, it will).

File for disclosure, do NOT put your phone number or e-mail address on the form. When you get the letter that your disclosure is ready for pickup we'll arrange to have someone pick it up for ya.

-Jamie M.
 
Jake said:
Jamie you're very kind, how about we do a group ride to pick the disclosure? ;)
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Not familiar with any roads out that way, but it could be arranged ;)

-Jamie M.
 
I gonna join that "ride for the disclosure" ))

still didn't fax the request b/c I'm not sure if the service i gonna use (myfax.com - they provide the fax number etc) will be good to get the confirmation. I will be sending the request tomorrow, just wanted to make sure it's treated as a regular fax by the courthouse OR should I look for regular fax?
 
DEA said:
I gonna join that "ride for the disclosure" ))

still didn't fax the request b/c I'm not sure if the service i gonna use (myfax.com - they provide the fax number etc) will be good to get the confirmation. I will be sending the request tomorrow, just wanted to make sure it's treated as a regular fax by the courthouse OR should I look for regular fax?
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Any fax as good, as long as you get a date/time stamped confirmation page ;)

-Jamie M.
 
Just sent custom disclosure request form w/o my phone number and requesting all the info (notes, cop's ticket etc). The confirmation I received is as follows (is it enough?):
Fax Delivery Number:
15193449379
Fax Recipient:
To:provincial Offences Office
Sent at:
10/05/2012 12:05:28 PM (GMT-4:00)
Pages:
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I would call the office to confirm reception of the fax. Ask the full name of the person you speak to who confirms the disclosure request fax was received.
That would cover all bases!
 
"It's been put into the prosecutor's bin"! Now I should wait for the mail when my disclosure is ready I guess. It seems it will not be ready for the first trial on October 25th, how do I postpone the trial date?
 
You don't postpone it. It's iffy given the late request but when you go to trial you state that you have not received disclosure, then ask for the charges to be dismissed. If they try to give you disclosure on the day you say no, then state to the JP that The Crown has brought your disclosure, which you have not been afforded time to study in order to prepare for your trial, and ask for a later date so that you can adequately prepare your defence.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
You don't postpone it. It's iffy given the late request but when you go to trial you state that you have not received disclosure, then ask for the charges to be dismissed. If they try to give you disclosure on the day you say no, then state to the JP that The Crown has brought your disclosure, which you have not been afforded time to study in order to prepare for your trial, and ask for a later date so that you can adequately prepare your defence.
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This. I highlighted the extra important part, because the prosecutor WILL try and push you to have your trial, because he "just gave you" disclosure. Do NOT give in, stand your ground. After you get your new date with can file an additional disclosure request for any of the stuff they forgot to include, and if it doesn't show up by your next court date instant dismissal for incomplete disclosure.

-Jamie M.
 
I will be in Sarnia this week, probably Wed or Thursday. Could I pick up the disclosure for you and than fax it to you from my office? PM me and let me know either way.
 
toysareforboys said:
This. I highlighted the extra important part, because the prosecutor WILL try and push you to have your trial, because he "just gave you" disclosure. Do NOT give in, stand your ground. After you get your new date with can file an additional disclosure request for any of the stuff they forgot to include, and if it doesn't show up by your next court date instant dismissal for incomplete disclosure.

-Jamie M.
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Remembering, of course, that any delay created by this situation should hopefully be blamed upon The Crown, which should also go toward a 11b petition.
 
1 more question: I've noticed that I can ask for interpreter in court (English is not my first language) - can it be wise to do so (maybe they don't have one available or need to wait longer, etc?)
 
IMO that would be unwise. Based on this thread you speak good enough English to make it through court proceedings (especially if you get representation). If you've already sent correspondence in English that may be another issue. The interpreter option is if you don't speak good enough English to get by in conversation.

Any delay will also be laid on your feet and that doesn't help you in the long run.
 
Macs said:
IMO that would be unwise. Based on this thread you speak good enough English to make it through court proceedings (especially if you get representation). If you've already sent correspondence in English that may be another issue. The interpreter option is if you don't speak good enough English to get by in conversation.

Any delay will also be laid on your feet and that doesn't help you in the long run.
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Actually my mother did that a couple years back for her Honda Vespa accident. We have Russian background. She requested a translator and it was in her favor. Don't matter how many years you been here in Canada.
OP from personal experience, Yes, if you can request one. Do it. Cause if they can't supply it......tough luck for them in a way.
 
nikiter said:
Actually my mother did that a couple years back for her Honda Vespa accident. We have Russian background. She requested a translator and it was in her favor. Don't matter how many years you been here in Canada.
OP from personal experience, Yes, if you can request one. Do it. Cause if they can't supply it......tough luck for them in a way.
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No...that's what I was saying. If you decide after your trial date has been set that you want an interpreter, the delay is on you and you ruin your chance of an 11(b)
 
Macs said:
No...that's what I was saying. If you decide after your trial date has been set that you want an interpreter, the delay is on you and you ruin your chance of an 11(b)
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Oh ok, I see what you mean.
 
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