Students owning bikes & Osap

[油井緋色]

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I can reverse the article with this:

bool willNotLearn;
if(person.getAge()>30){
while(!willNotLearn){
printf("I can't program QQQQQQQ");
}
}
else if(person.getAge()<30){
printf("Don't need tools because I can read this");
}

//Currently working on web development ****, I'm more than likely mixing syntax because JavaScript is giving me some horribad habits and I have not touched Java, or any C derivatives for the last few months.

 

[giesen]

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I can reverse the article with this:

bool willNotLearn;
if(person.getAge()>30){
while(!willNotLearn){
printf("I can't program QQQQQQQ");
}
}
else if(person.getAge()<30){
printf("Don't need tools because I can read this");
}

//Currently working on web development ****, I'm more than likely mixing syntax because JavaScript is giving me some horribad habits and I have not touched Java, or any C derivatives for the last few months.

I'm 30 years of age, so I guess your case doesn't apply to me =). I'm not a code monkey (and don't mean that in a derogatory sense) but I can read it.


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[油井緋色]

I'm 30 years of age, so I guess your case doesn't apply to me =). I'm not a code monkey (and don't mean that in a derogatory sense) but I can read it.


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haha no worries. was just a for fun thing. main reason why we don't pick up tools (at least I didn't till I got a bike) is because we traded it for the ability to use and understand electronics. I'm sure there are programmers/system designers in their 30s...just gave a random age.

 

[caboose56]

haha no worries. was just a for fun thing. main reason why we don't pick up tools (at least I didn't till I got a bike) is because we traded it for the ability to use and understand electronics. I'm sure there are programmers/system designers in their 30s...just gave a random age.

Don't or can't? There's a big difference.

 

[giesen]

haha no worries. was just a for fun thing. main reason why we don't pick up tools (at least I didn't till I got a bike) is because we traded it for the ability to use and understand electronics. I'm sure there are programmers/system designers in their 30s...just gave a random age.

Actually I was commenting on the fact that there are cases for under 30 and over 30, but not for someone who is 30.

To speak to your other point, I've been playing with tools since I was 6 years old, the problem was I was just not very good at it, and decided to make a career in an area I actually have some talent in.


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[油井緋色]

Actually I was commenting on the fact that there are cases for under 30 and over 30, but not for someone who is 30.

To speak to your other point, I've been playing with tools since I was 6 years old, the problem was I was just not very good at it, and decided to make a career in an area I actually have some talent in.


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Oh god, good point, them logic faults end up being *headdesk* fixes -_-

All good, neither am I...and if you read my maintenance thread, you'd have an idea lol

 

[Rossi86]

I agree that OSAP is an investment in our future economy. However the government does not make money on tuition, it operates at a complete loss. Engineering and Science Professors make over $100/hr.

Operates at a complete loss only for only certain proffessional programs, like for ex: Medical School. The money students pay for tuition funds the research in university. So yeah the government makes mad millions off students and invests that money into research, which later on will make the government more money. But technically the gov does make a fortune by ripping off students, what they do with that money after it's another story...

You realize that the government already subsidizes all student's education right? Like that 6 grand you pay per year is actually more like 30 grand, the government already covers a crazy amount.

See above, not all programs are subsidized like you're saying. When I did my Life Science undergrad at U of T, some of my classes had over a thousand students, each student paying ~$1000 for a full year class (8 months). 1000 students x $1000 = $1 000 000 for 1 class with 3 hours a lecture/week. So for lecturing, proffs are making ~$100/hour x 3hrs/week x 4weeks/month x 8 months = $9600. Give or take another 2-3 grand for T.As time to mark exams. Collect more than a million by spending 10-12 grand, yeah this scheme is really a big loss for the government.:lmao:

 

[油井緋色]

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Did you survive life science? lol Heard some horror stories about life sci and econ.

 

[vinehanger]

I just wanna say something so no one takes this guy's advice to its fullest extent. This is a perfect example of the government giving people an inch, and them taking a foot. You know this exists...so why ruin it for everyone by declaring it for a dollar?

Declare it as something reasonable and everybody wins. You still save, regardless. The government still gets a fair bit of money. And this perk can continue to exist. That's less than 150 in taxes if you declare it as 1000. Abusing loopholes like this is what gets **** taken away. You save now, but you ruin it for other people and most importantly, YOURSELF, when you buy your next motorcycle and they've caught on to it.

/rant

I disagree. This is clearly a case of over taxation. The bikes that we buy privately have already been taxed when they were sold new. Why are we being taxed twice on the same product? if you give me a way of avoiding being taxed twice, you better believe I'll take it. I've declared $1500 on my 09 ninja 250r, $100 on my SV650s, and $1 on my 07 GSXR. For my next bike, I intent to declare 0.50 cents.

 

[油井緋色]

I disagree. This is clearly a case of over taxation. The bikes that we buy privately have already been taxed when they were sold new. Why are we being taxed twice on the same product? if you give me a way of avoiding being taxed twice, you better believe I'll take it. I've declared $1500 on my 09 ninja 250r, $100 on my SV650s, and $1 on my 07 GSXR. For my next bike, I intent to declare 0.50 cents.

You can actually, believe it or not, declare 0.

I asked MTO what am I supposed to write when I give my bike to my gf, they said just put 0.

I mean, wtf are they gonna do, tell me she's not my gf? lol

 

[Rossi86]

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Did you survive life science? lol Heard some horror stories about life sci and econ.

Proud to say that I did, but that doesn't mean the nightmares don't haunt me anymore

 

[knowledge]

I'm with caboose on this one. There are plenty of jobs that pay 15. I also have lots of friends that do landscaping in the summer time. They were able to get into it with no experience. The money's consistent and there's a high turnover rate because like he said, a lot of people don't have the work ethic. Minimum wage is there for a reason, but you have to be pretty dumb or unable to speak english to be stuck there.

I disagree. This is clearly a case of over taxation. The bikes that we buy privately have already been taxed when they were sold new. Why are we being taxed twice on the same product? if you give me a way of avoiding being taxed twice, you better believe I'll take it. I've declared $1500 on my 09 ninja 250r, $100 on my SV650s, and $1 on my 07 GSXR. For my next bike, I intent to declare 0.50 cents.

Maybe we're being over-taxed...but keep doing that and eventually we'll get over-taxed more than we would've had to be. Giving a middle finger to the authorities isn't a good way to keep privileges. They already have a blue/red/blackbook for cars - if people keep declaring their bikes for a dollar, guess what's gonna happen eventually?

 

[imnothng]

Maybe we're being over-taxed...but keep doing that and eventually we'll get over-taxed more than we would've had to be. Giving a middle finger to the authorities isn't a good way to keep privileges. They already have a blue/red/blackbook for cars - if people keep declaring their bikes for a dollar, guess what's gonna happen eventually?

That's interesting you say that. I just bought a jeep last week and I paid 130$ tax after the seller told them I paid 1000$. Also, I thought it showed the book values on the UVIP, but when I sold my MINI last month there were no prices on it.

 

[caboose56]

That's interesting you say that. I just bought a jeep last week and I paid 130$ tax after the seller told them I paid 1000$. Also, I thought it showed the book values on the UVIP, but when I sold my MINI last month there were no prices on it.

I do recall there being wholesale and average prices listed on the UVIP... perhaps they don't have values for everything? I know the MTO has no such values for motorcycles so whatever you declare is what you pay tax on.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Our tax dollars hard at work, folks.


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I did the same thing years ago, when I was in college. I was either dropping the coin in the bus, or riding something that I owned. Costs worked out about the same, though I still had to take the bus for about 3 months a year. Sometimes it pays to think outside the box.

 

[油井緋色]

Don't or can't? There's a big difference.

It's not very hard to pick up tools and learn. You can learn within 4 months. And I'm an effing slow idiot when it comes to physical labor. I know somebody that ripped their 250R apart, painted the fairings, lowered it, and other crap within the first season; never touching tools before that.

...Try doing that with a real musical instrument (cello, viola, violin, double bass, piano..note NOT guitar) or any engineering/science/math program, it just won't happen.

 

[Macs]

It's not very hard to pick up tools and learn. You can learn within 4 months. And I'm an effing slow idiot when it comes to physical labor. I know somebody that ripped their 250R apart, painted the fairings, lowered it, and other crap within the first season; never touching tools before that.

...Try doing that with a real musical instrument (cello, viola, violin, double bass, piano..note NOT guitar) or any engineering/science/math program, it just won't happen.

Nothing wrong with being a geeky guy and being good with tools I do all my own mods to my car and nothing bad has happened yet. I also build desktops on the side and game very heavily. Trying to teach myself C right now. My M18x is even up for sale :'(

 

[ItIsWhatItIs]

I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but if you're making minimum wage (which I suspect most students do, or close to it) it doesn't even come close. At $10.25/hour, 37.5 hours per week for 12 weeks, you'd make $4612.50 *gross* (doesn't include deductions for tax, CPP, EI, and any benefits). The least expensive undergraduate program at Ryerson is $6,398, and obviously doesn't include books, student fees, supplies, etc. And that's assuming you can find work (and not every student is able to, for a variety of reasons).

Edit: Accidentally used 12 weeks instead of 16 weeks (4 months). At 16 weeks, works out to $6150 before deductions. Argument still completely valid.

Students don't make enough to pay taxes. All money made they keep. If you have parents who disqualify you from government loans as they want to drive their cadillac the only option is to live rent free at home. Work two jobs over the summer months. Stop making excuses.

 

[Macs]

Students don't make enough to pay taxes. All money made they keep. If you have parents who disqualify you from government loans as they want to drive their cadillac the only option is to live rent free at home. Work two jobs over the summer months. Stop making excuses.

What are you smoking? Students working full time most definitely make enough for taxes even at min. wage. The only work that doesn't get taxed is of the cash payment variety. You're also assuming that jobs get handed out like hotcakes. I'm fortunate in that my employer likes my work enough to keep me on the roster while I'm away so I can work the day after I get back. I have experienced and qualified friends that have been back since April that got turned down everywhere they applied.

And you're also wholly ignorant to the fact that many students aren't welcomed back home for free.

 

[Amazon]

What are you smoking? Students working full time most definitely make enough for taxes even at min. wage. The only work that doesn't get taxed is of the cash payment variety. You're also assuming that jobs get handed out like hotcakes. I'm fortunate in that my employer likes my work enough to keep me on the roster while I'm away so I can work the day after I get back. I have experienced and qualified friends that have been back since April that got turned down everywhere they applied.

And you're also wholly ignorant to the fact that many students aren't welcomed back home for free.

I believe if you make under a certain amount you get most of your taxes that were taken away each pay check back when you file your taxes at the end of the year. I could be mistaken.

+1 to the fact that not everyone is welcome to stay home

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