I would wager it is to protect the legacy of her son from people profiting off of his death. With all of the outcry and the million hoodie march it wouldn't be far fetched to see vendors selling Tryvon Hoodies and merch.
So if the shooter is black...
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I would wager it is to protect the legacy of her son from people profiting off of his death. With all of the outcry and the million hoodie march it wouldn't be far fetched to see vendors selling Tryvon Hoodies and merch.
If you are being beaten to death you are going to pull a gun out and shoot.......we wouldn't you say self defense?
I believe she only trademarked for dvd's and cd's and left the t-shirt, hoodies, etc.. alone.
OpenGambit
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in the context of the guy pulling the gun starting the fight, no that would not be self defense.
That would be murder.
It could suggest that he's the son of a retired judge, which turns out to be the case (see third from last paragraph on page 1).
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ard-aggressive-ex-co-worker-article-1.1053223
Previous charges from several years ago, that involved combat with a cop, also went away.
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Florida can keep its "Stand your ground" law with no one being charged. All that would be needed is an inquest when someone is killed. Inquests don't, to my knowledge, lay charges or convict. They just bring out evidence under oath so there is some degree of recorded truth. Once that is on the table charges can be laid.
Unfortunately the only witness says he was attacked before pulling the trigger. Would an inquest provide evidence to the contrary, "Beyond a shadow of doubt", to get a conviction?
This whole thing brings out more slimey questions as it goes along. When did Zimmerman get his head bashed? If it was after the fact did he come up with the idea or was he coached? If the latter who was the coach?
Unfortunately the only witness says he was attacked before pulling the trigger. Would an inquest provide evidence to the contrary, "Beyond a shadow of doubt", to get a conviction?
This whole thing brings out more slimey questions as it goes along. When did Zimmerman get his head bashed? If it was after the fact did he come up with the idea or was he coached? If the latter who was the coach?
Take a look at the video of Zimmerman in the police station, in the link I just posted. The quality isn't the best, but you'd be hard pressed to find any obvious marks on him.
So the police lied in their report? Let's not take a grainy video from 20 feet away after he has had medical attention as anything.
And does anyone care if blacks tried to set a white boy on fire? Nope
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station
That's pretty bad, but what a couple of nitwits did at another place, another time, doesn't excuse what another nitwit did. Well, unless you wanna put on your Casper costume, light wooden plus-signs on fire, dance around and start a race war, that is
Its in the news so yeah obviously somebody cares :lol:
OpenGambit
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and they are investigating it as a hate crime... The reason why the zimmerman thing blew up was because the police didn't do anythign in the first place.
PS .. first degree burns ( the lightest amount of injury) is also not comparable to death.
OpenGambit
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the point is that whether he was beaten or not is irrevelant. He stalked the guy, that throws self defense out the window the moment he did that.
and all it suggests to me is that cops aren't doing their jobs.
I don't know if he is guilty or not but what I see is
1. stand your ground doesn't apply ( even zimmerman's lawyer conceded this point )
2. botched investigation - Trayvon was tested for drugs and acholol while zimmerman was not- for example.
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I did make a statement about the video quality, no? He also would likely have been cleaned up by paramedics, prior to being taken in, but some rather good looks at the back of his head don't show anything.
If you want to read about racially motivated crimes then here's one for you, from a place I'd say many on this board have visited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Is there a Part of the law that specifically says that? I really don't know?
I'm guessing it would not apply to the police then, since they stalk all the time?
In the 911 call you can hear someone screaming and then a gun shot. Can they do voice recognition to determine who was screaming?
That would be a start but before there is an investigation into a crime there has to be a crime. You can't charge Martin with a crime because he's dead and the police say Zimmermen didn't break any law. Move along folks. Nothing to see here so just go home and reload.
vkhamphi
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Zimmerman's dad and brother claim that his nose was broken. Shouldn't there be blood on the front of his shirt? I read one article where the paramedic call was cancelled because Martin was dead and Zimmerman didn't require any medical attention. Even if someone cleaned up his injuries there would still be blood on his shirt. Can you have a broken nose that doesn't bleed?
I see what you see but did someone say to Zimmerman "I'm going to have a look at your head when I get back from having a coffee and if I see some scrapes and bruises I am going to accept your story. (Hint, hint)"
Zimmerman had taken law enforcement courses and would be familiar with cases of allegations of police brutality when fellons injured themselves to avoid or minimize charges. Did he figure something out himself?
Zimmerman might stay in hiding until the wounds are 100% healed. (If there were any)
Personally I think the fact collecting part of this case is too old. There wouldn't be enough evidence to get a criminal conviction. A civil case may be different as there are different standards. OJ got off on the criminal bit but lost in civil court.
