Shady sellers and time wasters


4. CASH has no magical power. It is a common form of currency, and virtually the only way to pay for purchases in the price range we are discussing here. If I lived off the land, I might consider offers of pigs, cows, and chickens; but I don't - so let's just use the assumption that cash is the expected form of payment. If you were my employer, and you wanted to pay my salary with vast sums of 'CASH', allowing me to thwart the taxman, I could possibly be swayed. Not here.

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... I pride myself on being as open and honest as possible when it comes to any product or service I sell at times almost to a fault but the common attitude from reading this topic is that most buyers start out skeptical as to the product or service they are thinking about purchasing ( most times with little or no cash in hand ) its as if they are looking for a fault so they can complain about it,...


We recently sold my wifes old car, she received al kinds of stupid contacts from the ad, couple of guus came to look at it and complained that it wansn't perfect. My wife never said it was, in fact she was quite transparent it had some issues and priced accordingly. These guys wanted a mint car that was ovwer 13 years old for less then a couple grand. Get a life, if you want t a new car, go to the dealer an buy a new car. If you can only afford a 13 year old beater, prepare to find a car with some flaws
 

Well, may be there's a second side to the story:
"o, just to be clear - I've already said NO to offers up to and including $2300."

Seller should of indicated "Firm" because if someone went to see the bike with "cash in hand" expecting to settle for 2,300 out of 2,595 (really, $95?!) - then I do not know why anyone would not sell.
 
Not that I have bought a lot of bikes but the last encounter just ****** me off and is something this thread calls for.

I showed up to check an older bike (advertised in excellent condition and WELL taken care of) which was not possible to deny or confirm from the two poor quality photos on kijiji, so fine - I made a 1 hour trip (nothing compared to the florida story above!) to check this bike out.

Well, half of the bike is rusting away, engine running but spattering and backfiring, tank has some gas from a year ago and even more rust inside.
Seller (1st owner) tells me openly that he did not care for the bike and that's why it's in the condition it's in while I was staring in disbelief on how could anyone ruin a bike with such low miles as this one.

Just out of curiosity I asked on how firm the seller is on a price and heard that he was very firm as he spend 600+ at the bike shop to replace brakes (probably rotten away) in order to get safety done. That's fine by me but wasting people's time is not.
 
I haven't sold many vehicles, but I did sell a LOT of computer equipment over the years. You are starting with the premise that everybody making inquiries is also a serious buyer, but in my experience that is never the case. For every serious buyer there are at least 4-5 tire kickers, and at some point you learn to figure it out within a couple of emails, or a couple of minutes of conversation.

Now I make it a rule to price my stuff at 10% more than market value, just so I have a bit of negotiating room. Everybody wants to haggle, so if you start with your bottom dollar then you invariably get less than what the item is worth.

I've had literally hundreds of people write messages like these:

Buyer: "I can offer you 10-20% less than your asking price."
Me: "Ok, come pick it up."
Buyer: "Sorry, my car broke down/dog ate my debit card/other blatantly false excuse. I can't afford buying your item anymore."

Buyer: "I can offer you half your asking price, will pay CASH!!!"
Me: "So I take it if you were to meet my asking price I'd have to accept a post dated cheque from the Central Bank of Zimbabwe?"

Buyer: "I will offer you your asking price. But you have to take out the hard drive or RAM because I already have them, and subtract brand new price of hard drive or RAM from the price."
Me: "And what exactly am I supposed to do with the extra stuff?"

And many other examples... That's partly the reason I got out of the buying and selling racket, most times it's not worth the hassle. I traded in my old SV when I picked up my GSXR, and while I lost about $5-700 on the deal (after factoring in the HST deduction), I figure my time and sanity were worth it.

Thats why I said "Be as courteous and helpful as possible to everyone (until you realize they are not a serious buyer)" because they guy offering you half of your asking price may very well do a price you are comfortable with if you are straight up with him.

Usually people either don't message 'low ballers' back at all or just tell them to gtfo which is stupid, because they could easily be a serious buyer but they just wanted to see what you'd take.

I have made many sales on kijiji by talking people back up from their initially very low first offer. If you want to sell things you can't shut out every potential buyer who tests your short temper.

Edit: Look at it this way, if you owned a Pawn Shop and you immediately kicked out every customer who offered too low for something how long do you think you'd stay in business?
 
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Thats why I said "Be as courteous and helpful as possible to everyone (until you realize they are not a serious buyer)" because they guy offering you half of your asking price may very well do a price you are comfortable with if you are straight up with him.

Usually people either don't message 'low ballers' back at all or just tell them to gtfo which is stupid, because they could easily be a serious buyer but they just wanted to see what you'd take.

I have made many sales on kijiji by talking people back up from their initially very low first offer. If you want to sell things you can't shut out every potential buyer who tests your short temper.

Edit: Look at it this way, if you owned a Pawn Shop and you immediately kicked out every customer who offered too low for something how long do you think you'd stay in business?

Stop watching Pawn Stars. :D

I agree with being courteous. Whenever I sell items I am polite and helpful with buyers to a fault since I need their money more than they need my widget. However if their first offer is half the market value, then they're obviously not serious about the transaction. They're just testing the waters to see if anything will stick.

I did try talking people up from a lowball offer, and it seems like you had more luck than I. It never worked for me before, and now I just don't reply to those people because I know my prices are more than fair. There shouldn't be ANY reason to start with a lowball except trying to be a jacka**.

And the lengths some people go to lower prices is astounding sometimes. I had one experience where I posted a gaming laptop on a major local site, and somebody posted an identical laptop for sale at a much lower price. I received an offer quoting the other ad. When I verified the other seller I discovered it was a brand new account and the poster never relied to my message.
 
Salespeople are creepy in general. Having worked in sales for a while I noticed that most of them are miserable, **** talking, hustlers who would step on their own mothers just to get ahead. Personally I try to avoid these people like the plague. Just try to work the best deal you can and gtfo!
 
I'm trying to sell a car & there are low ballers everwhere. I priced the car so low but still have a buyer knock off $50. Really? Wtf? Cheap bastard
 
I'm trying to sell a car & there are low ballers everwhere. I priced the car so low but still have a buyer knock off $50. Really? Wtf? Cheap bastard
You won't come down $50 and your calling him a cheap bastard? :D
I could see if you had the car listed at like $500 or something.
 
You won't come down $50 and your calling him a cheap bastard? :D
I could see if you had the car listed at like $500 or something.

I came down $1000. I'm cheap but not $50 cheap

I also paid for his gas to come from ottawa. Da fuk?
 
You won't come down $50 and your calling him a cheap bastard? :D
I could see if you had the car listed at like $500 or something.

When I price something I look at what the market is getting, then drop it a little to my absolute minimum that I'm willing to take, because I don't like dickering. I once put a complete DSLR camera starter kit up for sale that included the body, two lenses, a 2GB CF card, a set of effects filters (worth $100.00 used), and a camera bag up for $100.00 less than the lowest sale I found on eBay for just the camera body and lenses. Someone agreed to buy it and when he showed up, offered $100.00 less than the agreed upon price. He seemed genuinely surprised when I got up from the table and started to leave.
 
I came down $1000. I'm cheap but not $50 cheap

I also paid for his gas to come from ottawa. Da fuk?

Do what i do sometimes.

Ill list a bike for 7,000 firm and some dude will ask if i'll take 6,000. I say sure, minus the rims front and back along with tires, sprockets, rotors etc...
If you wanna pay 6 grand you can have 6 grand worth of stuff.

So drop it another 50 for him, just take 100 - 200 worth of **** off your car and resell it. :lmao:
 
Do what i do sometimes.

Ill list a bike for 7,000 firm and some dude will ask if i'll take 6,000. I say sure, minus the rims front and back along with tires, sprockets, rotors etc...
If you wanna pay 6 grand you can have 6 grand worth of stuff.

So drop it another 50 for him, just take 100 - 200 worth of **** off your car and resell it. :lmao:

Radio!
 
I'm trying to sell a car & there are low ballers everwhere. I priced the car so low but still have a buyer knock off $50. Really? Wtf? Cheap bastard

Last car I sold ended up going for $1100 off my asking price. The asking price was $1500. I had put over $4k into it over the previous year.
 
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