Shady sellers and time wasters

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unL33T said:
The 650R is known for losing fairing bolts from vibration. I've had the main bracket that holds the whole front end up work loose once so the whole thing was bouncing around. Lost about 4 fairing bolts so far, too. Just saying.
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In that case the rule of thumb is to subtract $100 for every zip tie found on the bike. The seller has no say in the matter. :D
 
Being that I am selling a motorcycle I have been following this post, at this point I think it is safe to assume there are equal numbers of bad sellers and buyers out there. This being the first motorcycle I have ever sold I can tell you that every request that I have had has been from foolish to almost insulting, I pride myself on being as open and honest as possible when it comes to any product or service I sell at times almost to a fault but the common attitude from reading this topic is that most buyers start out skeptical as to the product or service they are thinking about purchasing ( most times with little or no cash in hand ) its as if they are looking for a fault so they can complain about it, I guess this justifies the fact that most of them had no intention of buying or never had the money in the first place. I mean in my case my price may be high (to some) but I clearly state OBO only to recieve emails asking if I would consider 2500 or the stupidest trades and I clearly state "No trades"... in closing I think that due diligence is always the best practice when either buying or selling a good or service but don't get caught up in the negative hype be dilgent of what you are selling and don't knowingly make false claims and as a buyer do your home work and appraoch the sale with a knowledgable but open mindset. Not everyone is a crook...
 
Corsara said:
I've never put loctite on the fairing bolts..maybe I should start, hmm
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Just use the right thread locker (light duty), or you'll hate yourself. Also make sure that you don't get it on the fairing; just the (metal) bolt threads.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Just use the right thread locker (light duty), or you'll hate yourself. Also make sure that you don't get it on the fairing; just the (metal) bolt threads.
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Agreed, it can do funny things to plastics
 
SFer said:
Locktite is like invisible duc tape. :)

Love that stuff.
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Oh yeah? Blue loctite made me destroy a caliper in the winter. That's why I prefer to safety wire everything now and stay away from this damn stuff...

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Jampy00 said:
Being that I am selling a motorcycle I have been following this post, at this point I think it is safe to assume there are equal numbers of bad sellers and buyers out there. This being the first motorcycle I have ever sold I can tell you that every request that I have had has been from foolish to almost insulting, I pride myself on being as open and honest as possible when it comes to any product or service I sell at times almost to a fault but the common attitude from reading this topic is that most buyers start out skeptical as to the product or service they are thinking about purchasing ( most times with little or no cash in hand ) its as if they are looking for a fault so they can complain about it, I guess this justifies the fact that most of them had no intention of buying or never had the money in the first place. I mean in my case my price may be high (to some) but I clearly state OBO only to recieve emails asking if I would consider 2500 or the stupidest trades and I clearly state "No trades"... in closing I think that due diligence is always the best practice when either buying or selling a good or service but don't get caught up in the negative hype be dilgent of what you are selling and don't knowingly make false claims and as a buyer do your home work and appraoch the sale with a knowledgable but open mindset. Not everyone is a crook...
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I can agree with that. I was selling a bike recently and some of the callers were pure a$$holes. The best (as in worst) caller I got was a drunk at about 8:30 in the morning demanding I "justify myself as that price is bull$#/7" . Needless to say instant hang up.

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Corsara said:
Oh yeah? Blue loctite made me destroy a caliper in the winter. That's why I prefer to safety wire everything now and stay away from this damn stuff...
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Sounds like you used the wrong stuff, the threads were dirty, or the bolt was cross threaded. You have to use something that specifies "disassemble with hand tools." You also don't need to use a bucket-full of the stuff.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Sounds like you used the wrong stuff, the threads were dirty, or the bolt was cross threaded. You have to use something that specifies "disassemble with hand tools." You also don't need to use a bucket-full of the stuff.
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The color of the liquid does not always denote its strength. Sounds like you used the blue permanent.
 
Two50noob said:
The color of the liquid does not always denote its strength. Sounds like you used the blue permanent.
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Same as they put the RED/permanent loctite in a BLUE bottle?! wtf were they thinking :(

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Two50noob said:
The color of the liquid does not always denote its strength. Sounds like you used the blue permanent.
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Typically 242. As you say the colour doesn't necessarily denote the strength and it can vary between manufacturers, if you aren't using Loctite branded products, so by number is better.
 
i have two bottles of "Loctite" brand---blue and red. I also have a "blue" Permatex (or whatever it's called), comparing the tables on the back of the packaging, the blue Loctite and blue Permatex seem to be the same stuff... I don't know which I used on the caliper bolts, but it was blue... Yeah, also probably dirty bolts, etc... anyway, prefer to safety wire those places and not use any loctite anymore with my new caliper.. I'm using it very sparingly only at key places that are almost permanent and not something you have to remove for maintenance.
 
Corsara said:
i have two bottles of "Loctite" brand---blue and red. I also have a "blue" Permatex (or whatever it's called), comparing the tables on the back of the packaging, the blue Loctite and blue Permatex seem to be the same stuff... I don't know which I used on the caliper bolts, but it was blue... Yeah, also probably dirty bolts, etc... anyway, prefer to safety wire those places and not use any loctite anymore with my new caliper.. I'm using it very sparingly only at key places that are almost permanent and not something you have to remove for maintenance.
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Some people think that they have to fill the threads with the stuff. I find that a little dot or two is more than enough.
 
Corsara said:
Oh yeah? Blue loctite made me destroy a caliper in the winter. That's why I prefer to safety wire everything now and stay away from this damn stuff...
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I don't think you used the right stuff. I had an easier time getting the red (super strong) off my frame bolts by hand then you did with that bolt. :O
 
Corsara said:
i have two bottles of "Loctite" brand---blue and red. I also have a "blue" Permatex (or whatever it's called), comparing the tables on the back of the packaging, the blue Loctite and blue Permatex seem to be the same stuff... I don't know which I used on the caliper bolts, but it was blue... Yeah, also probably dirty bolts, etc... anyway, prefer to safety wire those places and not use any loctite anymore with my new caliper.. I'm using it very sparingly only at key places that are almost permanent and not something you have to remove for maintenance.
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