Severed Cat heads.

[PLau]

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I've never seen a cat on a leash before ever...like seriously.

I've seen 2 other people do it in my life, and my gf takes the cat out on the leash for a walk around the block once in a while just cause the cat loves the outdoors. Might have something to do with the fact that she was a stray outdoor cat around 1 month old and it was getting really cold early December when we picked her up.

 

[PLau]

cats rip open garbage, **** other cats, kill birds, **** in garden, fight other cats, howl in heat...scratch Kids, bite kids......etc...

Sorry, i dont think you wanting your cat to be free, warrants having the problems associated with it.

Sooo why is this limited to cats?

It isn't that common here, but what if they're stray dogs/cats or any wild animal in that sense? Whats the difference between a wild animal roaming around and an outdoor pet? Other than the fact that it is more probable that the pet is trained (being less of a problem).

Mice, hawks, pigeons, seagulls, cats, dogs, raccoons, rats, rabbits, snakes, etc, what "good" do they really do? All can be the culprit for all the things you list.

Just because you label some animals as "pets" doesn't mean that they should remain indoors all the time or be held captive.

 

[bunmanchi]

Sooo why is this limited to cats?

It isn't that common here, but what if they're stray dogs/cats or any wild animal in that sense? Whats the difference between a wild animal roaming around and an outdoor pet? Other than the fact that it is more probable that the pet is trained (being less of a problem).

Mice, hawks, pigeons, seagulls, cats, dogs, raccoons, rats, rabbits, snakes, etc, what "good" do they really do? All can be the culprit for all the things you list.

Just because you label some animals as "pets" doesn't mean that they should remain indoors all the time or be held captive.

well, to that, I'd retort by saying every other single animal purchased as a pet is kept in a cage, or in the house.

No-one buys a bird, then deciddes to let it go out free in their backyard.. or a rabbit, or a gerbil....etc...

 

[Baggsy]

Mine ran out the door tonight when my kid left it open.

We don't let normally them out. This was an exception.

 

[PLau]

well, to that, I'd retort by saying every other single animal purchased as a pet is kept in a cage, or in the house.

No-one buys a bird, then deciddes to let it go out free in their backyard.. or a rabbit, or a gerbil....etc...

The difference between bought and not when it comes to animals does not make them behave any differently than if they were in the wild ***if they aren't trained***.


Replace cats with any other animal:

cats rip open garbage,
Check
**** other cats,
Check
kill birds, **** in garden
Check
, fight other cats
Check
, howl in heat...
Check
scratch Kids,
Check
bite kids......
Check
etc..."
Probably.

 

[bunmanchi]

btw.. Im still waiting for someone to explain why their Cat deserves to run around free at night, being a nuscience ?

why cant you just keep your pets indoors ?

If you feel that a cat shouldnt be locked up inside a house , why did you buy it ?

 

[bunmanchi]

The difference between bought and not when it comes to animals does not make them behave any differently than if they were in the wild ***if they aren't trained***.


Replace cats with any other animal:

cats rip open garbage,
Check
**** other cats,
Check
kill birds, **** in garden
Check
, fight other cats
Check
, howl in heat...
Check
scratch Kids,
Check
bite kids......
Check
etc..."
Probably.

no man, I dont think you're getting it.. wild animals.. you cant do anything about.. But you are adding to the problem by letting your indoor cat, outside.

Example. YOUR cat will never rip open my garbage if you keep it inside. . correct ? you cant do much about homeless cats, but you can start helping the situation of strays by not letting your cat outside.

 

[PLau]

btw.. Im still waiting for someone to explain why their Cat deserves to run around free at night, being a nuscience ?

why cant you just keep your pets indoors ?

If you feel that a cat shouldnt be locked up inside a house , why did you buy it ?

Many people around Toronto don't buy cats.
I have 2 at my parent's house and 1 at my gfs house + a dog. None bought.
Personally I keep my cats inside but take the one at my gf's house out from time to time but never let them roam around on their own.

I had many friends in high school that "had" many cats all being outdoors BUT they never really owned them. Some food was given and they just kept returning and increasing in numbers. Then comes the question of ownership if anything were to happen.

In other parts of the world (Asia), there are WAYYY more stray dogs than cats thus being their issue.

I know many dog owners (gfs neighbors) that let their dogs roam outside on their own to take their piss/crap and go back in. Sometimes they roam around the street but there is a certain amount of trust that their owners have in them I guess to not be supervised. Once again, personally, if it were my pets, I'd be worried but their owners know their pet better than I do so it doesn't matter what I think.

 

[Mongrel]

Historically, cats were rarely kept indoors; indoor cats being at all common is actually something from only the last 100-odd years, even up until maybe the last 50-years, outdoor cats were far more common than indoor cats. Lots of people still think that way; "put the cat out at night" and all that.

Also, as people have mentioned, in many cases cats are only partially adopted - a feral or stray may come to your house regularly, but not move indoors permanently. Or will do so only after many years, when they trust the owner.

Finally, cats are more self-sufficient than dogs (not by a lot, but a fair bit) and if they are lost or run away from home, they are less likely to return. And being smaller and more cautious, they are typically more difficult to find even if the owner is looking all over.

EDIT:

As for this nutbag, well, I'd be worried about more than just the cats (though that would worry me on its own). Remember Magnotta got his start doing similar things and he's hardly the first nutjob murderer to use animals as practice before moving on to people.

 

[PLau]

As for this nutbag, well, I'd be worried about more than just the cats (though that would worry me on its own). Remember Magnotta got his start doing similar things and he's hardly the first nutjob murderer to use animals as practice before moving on to people.

I heard psychopaths start with small animals and move up. Being so close to home, I'd be more worried about the people than the pets.

Although, I might be watching too much TV.

 

[N3WMAN]

Who says the perp beheaded stray cats?

Perhaps they killed a bunch of their own indoor cats?

 

[DJM]

Are you ****ing kidding me? If you don't want your cat beheaded then don't let it out at night??? How the **** did you tie the two together???

 

[Paul1000RR]

Ban cats, problem solved. Next issue plz

 

[Motorcycle Mike]

Like I need a reason to give to you as to why I do ANYTHING.

Just to clarify, are you referring to letting cats out or cutting cats head's off?

 

[raginduck]

im with you on the dogs as well.

Im not a cat hater, im an outdoor pet hater. I hate people that leave their pets outside.

Ive still yet to hear a valid excuse for letting your cat roam free around the neighbourhoods.

btw, I've actually been trying to convince the wife to get a cat for our kids.. they love them.

No excuses... and no one owes you a reason for it either. Don't like it... too bad... that part of life, you're not going to like everything about your neighbors, just as they don't like everything about you. You have neighbors that don't like your kids and don't want them playing outside...

By the way... you might want to teach your kids that small ripped up animal parts left around by cats.. aren't toys and they shouldn't play with them.

 

[Ugur Dinch]

Ive still yet to hear a valid excuse for letting your cat roam free around the neighbourhoods.

Same reason why our kids are using the streets I presume.

It's the earth that we share. An animal has just as much right to wander around the "neighbourhoods", as a human does. And just because your kid spent all the nights in the parents' house upto age x, doesn't mean that he/she not allowed to spend a night out running around on the street one day/everyday. Same goes for an animal.

Kids bite, piss/**** on ppl's houses, cry, make stupid noises, steal, cause property damage, get on nerves, etc..

 

[Robp]

Are you ****ing kidding me? If you don't want your cat beheaded then don't let it out at night??? How the **** did you tie the two together???

Because if someone truly cared about the well being of their animal they would keep them inside where it's safe. It's kind of the same reason we don't open the door to let a two year old wander around the city alone.

There is a thread about outdoor cats on ADVRider and I was shocked at how many people think it's their right to let their cats roam the neighbourhood, and how passionate they were about it.

 

[Venom01]

Because if someone truly cared about the well being of their animal they would keep them inside where it's safe. It's kind of the same reason we don't open the door to let a two year old wander around the city alone.

There is a thread about outdoor cats on ADVRider and I was shocked at how many people think it's their right to let their cats roam the neighbourhood, and how passionate they were about it.

Are we comparing animals to 2 year old children now. WTF is wrong with people today? Its a freaking cat! You want to make a child/animal comparison? Fine, cats take naturally to outdoors like infants take to soiling themselves.

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[bunmanchi]

By the way... you might want to teach your kids that small ripped up animal parts left around by cats.. aren't toys and they shouldn't play with them.

My kids know not to pick them up, Ive never said that my kids did, However, there are smaller kidsw ive seen doing it in the park.

Same reason why our kids are using the streets I presume.

It's the earth that we share. An animal has just as much right to wander around the "neighbourhoods", as a human does. And just because your kid spent all the nights in the parents' house upto age x, doesn't mean that he/she not allowed to spend a night out running around on the street one day/everyday. Same goes for an animal.

Kids bite, piss/**** on ppl's houses, cry, make stupid noises, steal, cause property damage, get on nerves, etc..

this one makes me laugh.. So your pet has just as much right to walk around unleashed at night as People ? So do you let your Dogs out to run free at night ?
you let your snakes and parrots and all other domesticated pets out to roam free ?


why do CAT owners feel they are justified in this ? No other animal is ever left outside all night unless its an accident. Cat owners do it on purpose.

Btw, no need to be rude in your responses towards me for asking why you feel entitled to let your animals out to wander around.

 

[bunmanchi]

Are we comparing animals to 2 year old children now. WTF is wrong with people today? Its a freaking cat! You want to make a child/animal comparison? Fine, cats take naturally to outdoors like infants take to soiling themselves.

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why didnt you use Ungers Quote about comparing his cat to a Kid crying in the street, Biting ppl... etc... he thinks its ok for his cat to do it, since Kids do it.

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