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Seeking someone to look over a first bike for me

MaksTO said:
I have seen most 125s for around the 1900-2000 mark. some are 1500, but I am also looking for a black one specifically.

Additionally, I think insurance quotes will be higher on a 250. Riders Plus quoted me $2646 for my first year owning a bike with an M2 exit course. That sounds like about as good as I can expect at my age and experience level. Still waiting to do some more quotes, but I expect a 250 will be more. I imagine they will want another $400 at least per year for a 250-300.

I also am highly reluctant to ride on a highway for the first while. This bike is meant to be a city rider 98% of the time, and if I ever travel anywhere, I am more than happy taking county roads or 80km/h highways. Speed is pretty much the last thing on my table of considerations, provided it can do at least 80-100.
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For insurance: try to check other less popular bikes. For example, for me, it was cheaper to insure Suzuki GS500 than CBR250R/300R
 
GreenPlane said:
For insurance: try to check other less popular bikes. For example, for me, it was cheaper to insure Suzuki GS500 than CBR250R/300R
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Thanks for the tip!

Realistically, I think as far as my benchmarks for reliability / used value and resale value / insurance / fuel efficiency / risk of theft / and safety goes, I should be happy with a newer ish 125 to get me going. As others have mentioned, I should be able to resell it for what I paid for roughly - meaning it should be a lowest risk scenario in my position.

Eventually I will move to something larger, but for now I just want to feel the wind rushing through the ventilation holes of a well fitted helmet :D
 
MaksTO said:
Thanks for the tip!

Realistically, I think as far as my benchmarks for reliability / used value and resale value / insurance / fuel efficiency / risk of theft / and safety goes, I should be happy with a newer ish 125 to get me going. As others have mentioned, I should be able to resell it for what I paid for roughly - meaning it should be a lowest risk scenario in my position.

Eventually I will move to something larger, but for now I just want to feel the wind rushing through the ventilation holes of a well fitted helmet :D
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nothing wrong with wanting the light 125. I like the 2012 and its low km's. I would make a slightly lower offer for the bike with uvip, mech fitness, and delivery. and I would want to talk with the shop doing inspection before closing the deal unseen. You need a GF/sibling/friend with wheels to take you bike hunting. lol.
 
boyoboy said:
nothing wrong with wanting the light 125. I like the 2012 and its low km's. I would make a slightly lower offer for the bike with uvip, mech fitness, and delivery. and I would want to talk with the shop doing inspection before closing the deal unseen. You need a GF/sibling/friend with wheels to take you bike hunting. lol.
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Unfortunately since I’m downtown virtually nobody has a car haha. So I’m a little sol in that regard.

In theory if the bike passes mech safety it should be good no? Or is calling the shop after standard practice?
 
MaksTO said:
Unfortunately since I’m downtown virtually nobody has a car haha. So I’m a little sol in that regard.

In theory if the bike passes mech safety it should be good no? Or is calling the shop after standard practice?
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I personally wouldn't rely only to safety inspection because you never know how good they will check it (especially, if the shop has been selected by the buyer). At the same time, it should guarantee that at least basic things are ok (tires, brake pads, lights, etc). Otherwise, it would be a major issue for the shop itself.

If it is a recent bike (e.g. 2012) with a reasonable amount of miles and you plan to ride it e.g. for a year and upgrade then I'm sure that it would be ok.
 
GreenPlane said:
I personally wouldn't rely only to safety inspection because you never know how good they will check it (especially, if the shop has been selected by the buyer). At the same time, it should guarantee that at least basic things are ok (tires, brake pads, lights, etc). Otherwise, it would be a major issue for the shop itself.

If it is a recent bike (e.g. 2012) with a reasonable amount of miles and you plan to ride it e.g. for a year and upgrade then I'm sure that it would be ok.
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Wondering if the guy will even do all of this work for me if i lowball him to 1800. He seemed pretty reluctant to even do that. Worth asking I guess regardless.
 
My personal opinion is with 4000km there shouldn’t be much that a shop needs to look at so I wouldn’t be all that worried about needing to talk to the shop and go over their findings. A 2012 might have dry rotted tires but other then that I can’t think of a whole lot that could be wrong. You also have to remember that the guy signing the safety certificate doesn’t want to lose his livelihood so it’s unlikely you’d be getting a bad safety.

Price. If it’s the bike you want then don’t worry about a few hundred one way or another. You can drive yourself crazy trying to find the exact perfect deal. Owning a motorcycle in Canada doesn’t make financial sense to begin with so I don’t worry about saving the last dollar I can on this hobby.

Good luck with whatever bike you decide on and ride safe! The first year of riding a motorcycle is a great experience. Enjoy it.
 
blackcamaro said:
My personal opinion is with 4000km there shouldn’t be much that a shop needs to look at so I wouldn’t be all that worried about needing to talk to the shop and go over their findings. A 2012 might have dry rotted tires but other then that I can’t think of a whole lot that could be wrong. You also have to remember that the guy signing the safety certificate doesn’t want to lose his livelihood so it’s unlikely you’d be getting a bad safety.

Price. If it’s the bike you want then don’t worry about a few hundred one way or another. You can drive yourself crazy trying to find the exact perfect deal. Owning a motorcycle in Canada doesn’t make financial sense to begin with so I don’t worry about saving the last dollar I can on this hobby.

Good luck with whatever bike you decide on and ride safe! The first year of riding a motorcycle is a great experience. Enjoy it.
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Thanks! definitely looking forward to it / daydreaming about it all day long. only a month and one day until I am M2 certified. Too bad the Riders Plus insurance quote I got today expires after 30 days, but hopefully they won't jack my rate if I try to recall that quote two days late!

I'm okay with spending an extra hundred or whatever to get the right thing. I feel like pinching too much could cost me more in the end.
 
GreyGhost said:
I think 125 is hwy legal too (IIRC the line is at 50cc). I agree though, 250 can legitimately be a forever bike, a 125 is much less likely to be a forever bike. 250 opens up ABS possibility as well.

I thought 125's were trading just over $1000? Now it is spring and it has low miles, but personally, I would rather have a starter bike that comes rashed up and have $800 in my pocket. The inevitable first tip over instantly destroys that $800 anyway.
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Remember that the speed limit is going up to 120km/h if all rumors are correct. You won't keep that up on a CBR125. Take the advice and go for a CBR250 if you can afford it. With these morons whipping by at 130km/h it's going to be scary on a bike that struggles to make 120.
 
I could maybe help you out. I have helped several people on this board in exactly the same way as you are asking.
Maybe a few of them are still here to attest to my services.

Sunday I will be going up that way anyway.

P.M. me if interested
 
You can use the bill of sale on the UVIP but if you have a bill of sale from the seller you don't need the one on the UVIP. If you can't get Frekeguy you can call Red at Red's Motorcycles in Orangeville. He'll do a safety for you and give you an opinion on the bike. redsmotorcycles.ca is the website, all the info is there.
 
BKnight said:
You can use the bill of sale on the UVIP but if you have a bill of sale from the seller you don't need the one on the UVIP. If you can't get Frekeguy you can call Red at Red's Motorcycles in Orangeville. He'll do a safety for you and give you an opinion on the bike. redsmotorcycles.ca is the website, all the info is there.
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Thanks for the tip re: Reds! Will consider for sure
 
If you're looking for a shop in Orangeville, I'd recommend Larry's Small Engines. They are the local Honda / Suzuki Dealer up here. They've done work on my ST and I trust them.
 
It sounds like you found what you want. A 2012 low km black cbr125. If its the bike you want go for it. I think if you offered $1800 certified + 100 for delivery- the seller will/may come around. Just be friendly and polite when making your offer. Yes this is at the high end of pricing, but it sounds like a good find. Best luck!
 
GreyGhost said:
I think 125 is hwy legal too (IIRC the line is at 50cc). I agree though, 250 can legitimately be a forever bike, a 125 is much less likely to be a forever bike. 250 opens up ABS possibility as well.

I thought 125's were trading just over $1000? Now it is spring and it has low miles, but personally, I would rather have a starter bike that comes rashed up and have $800 in my pocket. The inevitable first tip over instantly destroys that $800 anyway.
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Could be a big difference in Insurance costs between a 125 and 250. I pay $262 for my 125, $490 for my 250 enduros. Gonna be more for a 21 year old, probably a difference of $500+
 
Just got a call back from DT

Cbr125 is $2549/year full coverage (100 less than riders plus)

And a cbr 250 of same year will be $2798.

They also allow me to insure before I complete the M2 Exit Course (with proof of registration).

Not sure I can get better than that for 21, first year riding and no driving history whatsoever.

Thoughts?
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