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Saw An Actual Police Chase Of 3 Sport Bikers
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Gixxer6
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16 the median pre-crash speed was 29.8 mph, and the median crash speed was 21.5 mph, and the one-in-a-thousand crash speed is approximately 86 mph-
No meantion of FATAL crashes
If its anything like the "alcohol related" statistics, they are very misleading. Speed related crashes means that speed was "a factor" if the bike or the driver was going 60 in a 50. The cause of the crash does not need to be excessive speed, or talking on a cell phone, or stunting, etc. It just needs to be a "factor" in order to be speed related.
Similarly with alcohol, the alcohol related crashes, could be a driver having a single glass of wine gets rear ended by a sober driver not paying attention. It is alcohol related (and possibly speed related).
Similarly with alcohol, the alcohol related crashes, could be a driver having a single glass of wine gets rear ended by a sober driver not paying attention. It is alcohol related (and possibly speed related).
I'm sorry but your logic is flawed. All the fifty over law has done is create a situation where poeple that would have stopped run. I have been stopped for well over 200km/h and the officer says thanks for stopping as long as your paper work is good I'm not giving you a ticket. I have also had an officer say if I didn't stop he would have shot me and thought of a reason later. So I very. Rarely stop I would rather go though a corn field and fix the damage than get 10000 fine impound etc. I have been licenced for 30 years with 0 accidents. Yet I see 299 on my speedo every time out. U must pick your time and place. I'm an ex racer and instuctor and have not had a close call I at least 25 years.
btambandit6
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That is definitely strange, why would the dude chase the cop car. The police could possibly turn it around and give the guy a ticket.
Never heard of anything this before.
Never heard of anything this before.
I was returning to my sister-in-law's house after a day at Point Lookout State Park when we merged into the 495 highway going to Alexandria when the loudest sport bike I ever heard passed me as if I was at a dead stop, he must had been going 160 km/h but cutting and swerving between cars only inches of clearance from their fenders. The pipes on this guy were so loud they woke-up the kids in our minivans who were sleeping even with the windows closed (it was about 9:00pm). He dissapeared from view in about 7 seconds, just then 2 other supersport bikers passed us, also at about 160 km/h. Then about 15 seconds later a Sheriff patrol car passed us at great speeds chasing them but WITHOUT lights or sirens.
Then I saw the most weird thing. A 4th sports biker was chasing the police car! He was about 30-ft behind him, if the cop car passed vehicles on the left of the highway shoulder the biker would also do it, if the patrol car cutted across lanes to the other shoulder the sport biker will also tailgate him, WTF? Why didn't this dude just slow down and let the cop chase his buddies? Or better yet get off the next exit and go home! Ahahaha!!! I alsot videotaped it with my iphone but everything went down quickly.
P.S. The first biker had a bright purple led light blinking on and off on the corner of his taillight, is this a beacon to show the cop where he's going?
For anyone that did not know. Police will turn off lights and siren hopeing u will think u got away and slow down so police can catch up. Also police not supposed to chase over 160km/h in ontario. But they do and will pile drive you then say u crashed on your own. Now who is breaking the law
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OpenGambit
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Section 25 of the Criminal Code.
It protects Cops that using lethal force to stop people that are running away.
One of the most important sections in the CC.
It is a fallacy to infer from these statistics, that going 86 mph instead of 29 is going to be (in general) "safer".
What the statistics mean is that speeds above 86 mph combined with circumstances that result in a collision, collectively happen rarely.
Higher speeds (main highways) are associated with fewer collision risks (no traffic light or stop sign controlled intersections).
It doesn't mean that you should go 86 mph so that you have less risk of having a collision.
FWIW the last that I heard, HTA 172 has had no appreciable effect with regards to reducing the number of motorcycle fatalities in Ontario. Theory #1: As noted by the Hurt report, the high speeds that HTA 172 is meant to address are associated with only a tiny fraction of actual collisions, only because those high speeds combined with collision-causing circumstances are comparatively rare, and meanwhile, HTA 172 has no effect whatsoever on the intersection right-of-way violation at comparatively low speeds that accounts for the vast majority of serious collisions. Theory #2 (and this is not exclusive of the other theory), more people run from the cops ...
Either u have 6 million horsepower or u r seeing things. First sreet bike kawi 500 triple 78 cb750 82rd350 84rz500 86rg500 88gsxr1100 96 600ninja 01gsxr1000 09gsxr750 2010gsxr600 track bike not so noob
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Ummm. Your statistic needs more context. Not saying you're wrong but if 80% of people ride in the city then it's only natural that they will account for a greater percentage of deaths at speeds less than 100km/h.
You could also say only .00001% of deaths occur at speeds above 220km/h but that's not saying its the safest speed! Just sayin'
insert
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questionable as to whether this is still valid.
the study was done from 76-77, that's a long time ago. In the past 40-ish years motorcycles have come a long way, technology has made them more "comfortable" at higher speeds. bikes can get there easier, they feel more stable at higher speeds, and as a result there are probably more people riding at those speeds these days, and probably resulting in more accidents at higher speeds in modern times.
Also, #16 says nothing about the accidents being fatal.... just says there are less accidents overall at higher speeds.
However, #42 says that injury severity INCREASES with speed, alcohol and bike size.
There is some useful information in The Hurt Report, even now, but it should no longer be given Bible status. As insert stated the technology has come a long way, and people use it differently. A CBR250R is head and shoulders above a CB350, and a CBR600RR blows them both into the weeds. Handling, braking, acceleration, and stability are all far better. You don't see many bikes with brake drums, anymore, but The Hurt Report is full of data that came from them.
