right turn clyde

trafiic that is on-coming in the 2nd lane is not a threat, they are in their own lane.
I dont have to yield, becasue the danger is not in my lane.
what you are doing, is just holding up traffic. imo

you can interpret the wording as you see fit.
"At any intersection where you want to turn left or right, you must yield the right-of-way."
obviously, im not going to turn out in front of an oncoming car in the lane i am turning into.
but what i am doing is not illegal, nor stupid. I trust that the person coming stays in their own lane, and does not change lanes in the intersection, as thats illegal..

just as i trust any other motorist on a 2 lane road to stay on their side, as we fly past each other in opposite directions at 80 kph.

... unless they happen to change lanes while crossing the intersection ...



... unless they happen to change lanes while crossing the intersection ...



My safety takes priority over making someone behind wait another two seconds.

or just before the intersection or just after.

holy cow. First off, changing lanes in an intersection is illegal.
If your paranoia over other people driving habits scare you that much, then you shouldnt be on the road, imo.

this is why i wrote the other scenario. You trust that oncoming traffic will keep to their lane on a two lane road,
you cant always be afraid of what another driver "might" do and trust that their skills are comparable to yours.

"I cant pull out on the road, what if that car 2 lanes over decides at the last second that he wants to change lanes" LOL

what happens on a green light ? You have to trust that other drivers that have the red will stop. LOL

You keep saying " unless THIS happens, or THAT happens " if thats the case, just stay off the road. beause thats the safest place for you. lol

btw, its not just about the "2 seconds" that the person behind you is waiting, its the 9 other cars behind the guy behind you.
You sound like one of these high and mighty drivers that does no wrong, .. when its the complete opposite. You are the one creating dangerous situations, especially for yourself.

If you don't have the right of way ... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah - is that what you're hearing?

The same issue arises when traffic lights go out. Somebody feels that the hundred cars waiting behind them, negates the necessity to stop and yield the right of way, or maybe they're late, or more important than everyone else.

Anyways, if you are just going to go ahead and do what you want when you want, why do you get upset at other drivers behaving likewise?
 
holy cow. First off, changing lanes in an intersection is illegal.
If your paranoia over other people driving habits scare you that much, then you shouldnt be on the road, imo.
Except that this happens at nearly every intersection I encounter in this city so it's not paranoia.

You can argue with insurance, police, and the guy/girl that hit you about the legality from the side of the road or the hospital when you get run over by someone that didn't know/didn't care that it was illegal.
 
You can have the right of way all day long. If you get hit, you're still dead.

It was suggested that perhaps "I shouldn't be on the road" because I'm not willing to take the risk and that there is also a risk that a person coming the other direction on a two-lane road could veer into my lane. True ... they could. BUT. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that I can do to prevent that collision from happening. NOTHING. It's a risk that you have to take. But it is very easy to foresee a driver changing lanes mid-intersection - and as others have pointed out, there is no law saying that they can't! - and it is very easy for ME to take a countermeasure to prevent a collision ... hold back with my right turn until that driver has passed!

I really don't care if this causes a minor delay to someone impatient behind me.

This discussion is happening on a motorcycle forum. One of the things you have to do when riding on the road, is to always foresee that the other driver is going to do something wrong, and then do something yourself so that their wrong action doesn't kill you. Holding back with a right turn until a foreseeable risk has passed ... is an insignificant consequence. A rider who doesn't routinely predict the wrong actions of other drivers and do something to prevent those actions from affecting them, to the extent that they can practically do so, is going to get hurt a lot sooner than one who does ... We have to recognize that it is impossible to eliminate all risk, but IF there is a risk that you can do something about, you had better do it if you want to survive ...
 
^ hah so true. Where else but on a motorbike forum do you see a section like Fallen Riders?

Choosing to ride a motorcycle means you've already assumed a lot of risk.
 
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