Rider Down — short rant

Jinniwind said:
speaking of the assistant alarm, I have to admit that I roll my eyes sometimes when i hear it. I have never seen what really happened in any of the incidents but i felt like this happens a bit too often (sometimes 3 out of 5 days with occassional multiple alarms in the same trip). I'm not sure why there are so many people feeling unwell in rush hours (i assume most of these ppl are NOT elderlies or little kids since it's at the typical "going to work" time). people need to take care of themselves properly. if you have low blood sugar, eat something before you come out or always have some chocolates or candies with you. or if you dont feel well, call in sick or something. you need to listen to your body and know your limit. given the way that toronto TTC is designed, you pressing the alarm means that every single train behind you is delayed infinitely until you get the proper care. I know that if i were the one that is delaying everyone else, i would feel extremely bad and embarrassed, and if i weren't feeling well, i would try my best to wait to get off at the very next stop instead of pressing the alarm.
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In all fairness in that case, the lady hit her head and is at risk of serious injury and/or death if there was clotting hemorrhage. Also take into account that there is a jumper almost every day.
Its annoying as f***,
 
BusaBob said:
it's the kitty genovese effect (or bystander apathy). it is as human as breathing, bigotry, selfishness and cowardance.
people need to be made aware of it and try hard to fight it.

people are idiots for the most part. it's a smaller percentage that are or actually try to be better.

i'm reminded of my own incident in which at the age of 12, i broke my leg from a fall down some stairs in a public area. it was evening rush hour and there was a lot of pedestrian traffic. not a single person bothered to help, even though i was clearly hurt, asking for help and unable to get up.

it's because of this incident that i always make it a point to get involved. i wish more people would too
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Wasn't there a case about this in, forgot what town, where some girl some brutally raped, beaten and tossed on a busy intersection? She ended up dying because people didn't give a flaming ****.

It isn't exclusive to Toronto and is another reason why I loved the recent Tough Mudder event, everyone helped each other out...unlike the norms of society where it's everyone for themselves.
 
the_falcon said:
In all fairness in that case, the lady hit her head and is at risk of serious injury and/or death if there was clotting hemorrhage. Also take into account that there is a jumper almost every day.
Its annoying as f***,
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i know! I totally understand the seriousness in this particular case, and I always give my seat to elderlies, pregnant and kids. i just dont understand why we have so many assistant-alarm-worthy-incidents pretty much everyday on Yonge line, during rush hours. this is a bit too much.

and for the jumpers, I respect your right to take your own life but can you please be more considerate next time so that your action won't affect so many people in such a negative way.
 
This is sad to hear. I live right around the intersection where this happened and I'd hate to think people would treat me like that if I went down. Good on you OP for helping out the rider and hope he's doing ok now. I agree with others on this thread that Brampton has some of the worst, most inconsiderate drivers around. Driving or riding in Brampton is for the bravest of souls...:mad:
 
I tell you if someone honked at a down rider like the OP described I'd be awfully tempted to put the helmet into their windshield.......
Even better have them nailed for dangerous driving and leaving the scene. Your word against theirs.
 
psycho44 said:
I think in Canada most driving schools teach you to pass the driving test. Some instructors will even take you around the driving test roads numerous times and point out what to expect and do on those roads. It's a bonus if they teach you anything about safe driving. I had to pay extra to take safety driving classes.
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That sounds like the people that start threads on wanting to know the M2 exit route, rather than knowing how the examiners mark.
 
How uncaring can people be for another person? Many years ago I was rear ended going north on the DVP in my car. The driver waved he'd pull over to the side and I pulled ahead of him at the side of the road. As I got out, he raced past me and took off, knocking me down and dragging me for a short distance. It was summer, I had shorts on. My face was bleeding, hands, legs and one foot all covered in lots of blood. I didn't have my cell with me so as drivers crawled by I asked to use their phone. I can't count the number of drivers that ignored me as I stood at the side of the road with blood everywhere and in shock. Finally after what seemed like forever, a woman pulled over and called 911 for me. I was covered in blood and people would turn their head to pretend I wasn't there.
 
Hawk said:
How uncaring can people be for another person? Many years ago I was rear ended going north on the DVP in my car. The driver waved he'd pull over to the side and I pulled ahead of him at the side of the road. As I got out, he raced past me and took off, knocking me down and dragging me for a short distance. It was summer, I had shorts on. My face was bleeding, hands, legs and one foot all covered in lots of blood. I didn't have my cell with me so as drivers crawled by I asked to use their phone. I can't count the number of drivers that ignored me as I stood at the side of the road with blood everywhere and in shock. Finally after what seemed like forever, a woman pulled over and called 911 for me. I was covered in blood and people would turn their head to pretend I wasn't there.
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******* ********. I'm sure karma will catch up with them. Did they get the other driver?
 
I stop every chance I can. If I am unable to stop and I can loop around somewhere, I do. Although, if they clearly don't need help (they're changing their tire, a tow truck is already there, they're pouring gas into their tank, etc) then I just continue on my way.
 
To the OP and Sircastic -- kudos for stopping traffic + helping out!
We need more people like you in the world!
 
keross1ve said:
This is sad to hear. I live right around the intersection where this happened and I'd hate to think people would treat me like that if I went down. Good on you OP for helping out the rider and hope he's doing ok now. I agree with others on this thread that Brampton has some of the worst, most inconsiderate drivers around. Driving or riding in Brampton is for the bravest of souls...:mad:
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only time I ride in brampton is leaving to get out of there fast
 
There is a reason insurance rates are considerably higher in Brampton, markham, and Mississauga.
 
A few years ago, I ran into a young lady on a rebel 250 stuck in the left hand turn lane @ don mills and overlea. She couldn't get her bike going because her battery was dead...I helped get her bike off the road and showed her how to bump start it...no problems, she was polite, thankful and happily on her way in minutes...

Now when I pulled over to help a SS rider, lmao
All I got was "dude, get the fack outta here...and don't call the cops"
 
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I lived in Brampton for 8 years or so. I haven't seen worse driving on a consistent basis in any satellite city of the toronto area. My mother still lives there and every time I visit her my wife and I can't wait to get the hell out of there; and also leave perplexed as to why my mom still chooses to live there.

As for stopping for people. . .In the early to mid 90s, If I pulled over at the side of the road for anything, every biker would at least slow down and look for an 'ok' sign, so that they know I don't need help. Now, it rarely happens. Most times I've stopped to help someone at the side of the road (I used to drive really crappy cars when I was young with no money -- I remember being broken down a lot) they always mention how long they've been there and how no one stopped to see if they were okay.

Perhaps it's that most expect you to be carrying a cell phone. Perhaps it's a shift in societal values where a sense of community has regressed. I just think it kind of sucks that a lot of people don't care to try and help others.
 
canuckerjay said:
I lived in Brampton for 8 years or so. I haven't seen worse driving on a consistent basis in any satellite city of the toronto area. My mother still lives there and every time I visit her my wife and I can't wait to get the hell out of there; and also leave perplexed as to why my mom still chooses to live there.

As for stopping for people. . .In the early to mid 90s, If I pulled over at the side of the road for anything, every biker would at least slow down and look for an 'ok' sign, so that they know I don't need help. Now, it rarely happens. Most times I've stopped to help someone at the side of the road (I used to drive really crappy cars when I was young with no money -- I remember being broken down a lot) they always mention how long they've been there and how no one stopped to see if they were okay.

Perhaps it's that most expect you to be carrying a cell phone. Perhaps it's a shift in societal values where a sense of community has regressed. I just think it kind of sucks that a lot of people don't care to try and help others.
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A lot of people brought the me first attitude with them from their own countrys and before anyone gets all wound up over this I am a immigrant to.
 
It's too bad, but people are scared to stop. They don't want to get involved, and it's survival of the fittest :(.

Earlier this year I took a wrong turn on my 250 and ended up on a gravel road, only to find an SUV overturned in a ditch. Every car that showed up afterwards blew past in a cloud of dust. It's no better if you call police to help. They will just charge the driver, instead of looking to just see them safe and looked after. Even services that were supposed to be put in place to help us, prefer to cover their *****. Cruel world.

I stayed until the driver had a family member show up, on request of driver who knew the deal, and felt ok but didn't want to be left by themselves. Shock is not something to tangle with, so stayed just in case.

Good on anyone who stays to help the injured. Unfortunately, selflessness is not a character being successfully taught or bred into our society anymore.
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