return on the E bikes...

[kiwi]

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no need to buff so much and exaggerate. Do 50kph for a good length of time, I'll see how far you can travel. You won't ride a full carbon race road bike to work anyway, so stop buffing. It's no easy to do 50kph on a road bike on flat for a good amount of time. you will crash faster doing 50kph on slopes

What is "buffing"?

 

[kiwi]

A bit of necromancy, but I couldn't resist it..

I call this: A toast to the e-biker

Go along danforth and count them outside the bars there..

 

[caboose56]

no need to buff so much and exaggerate. Do 50kph for a good length of time, I'll see how far you can travel. You won't ride a full carbon race road bike to work anyway, so stop buffing. It's no easy to do 50kph on a road bike on flat for a good amount of time. you will crash faster doing 50kph on slopes

Maybe he meant 30kph? E-bikes are limited to 30kph are they not? For a reasonably athletic person on the right bike, 30kph is pretty easy.

 

[fastar1]

I've been meaning to look it up and this is what I found from http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/vehicle/emerging/e-bike-faq.shtml;


For use in the Province of Ontario, a power-assisted bicycle, or e-bike, is a bicycle that:

• Has a maximum weight of 120 kg (includes the weight of bike and battery);
• Has wheels with a diameter of at least 350 mm and width of at least 35 mm; and
• Meets the federal definition of a power-assisted bicycle:
  • has steering handlebars and is equipped with pedals,
  • is designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground,
  • is capable of being propelled by muscular power,
  • has one or more electric motors that have, singly or in combination, the following characteristics:
    • it has a total continuous power output rating, measured at the shaft of each motor, of 500 W or less,
    • if it is engaged by the use of muscular power, power assistance immediately ceases when the muscular power ceases,
    • if it is engaged by the use of an accelerator controller, power assistance immediately ceases when the brakes are applied, and
    • it is incapable of providing further assistance when the bicycle attains a speed of 32 km/h on level ground,
  • bears a label that is permanently affixed by the manufacturer and appears in a conspicuous location stating, in both official languages, that the vehicle is a power-assisted bicycle as defined federally, and
  • has one of the following safety features,
    • an enabling mechanism to turn the electric motor on and off that is separate from the accelerator controller and fitted in such a manner that it is operable by the driver, or
    • a mechanism that prevents the motor from being engaged before the bicycle attains 3 km/hr.

Some kinda weird definitions there but I guess that's what happens when legislators play engineer.

 

[chrias]

They shouldn't be. They are considered motor vehicles and you can be charged with impaired driving if operating one under the influence. Also, if you are under a driving prohibition for an impaired, dangerous driving, or any other conviction for a criminal code driving offence, you are prohibited from operating ANY motor vehicle including eBikes.

This is a gray area. They can be legally charged with impaired if the pedals are removed as it is no longer considered a bike.

 

[turbodish]

This is a gray area. They can be legally charged with impaired if the pedals are removed as it is no longer considered a bike.

Federal definition of a motor vehicle differs from Ontario's provincial definition. The net result is that while provincial charges and penalties for impaired driving (such as the automatic 90-day pre-trial suspension simply for being charged) do not apply, the federal (criminal) charges and penalties do still apply. Pedals on or off makes no difference at all to the federal definition of a motor vehicle.

 

[unL33T]

This is a gray area. They can be legally charged with impaired if the pedals are removed as it is no longer considered a bike.

I was under the impression that you can get charged with a DUI even when operating a regular bicycle if you are drunk. I've heard of people in electric wheel chairs charged for it, too.

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