Correction: Brampton has the worst rates in the province of Ontario. Quoted Meloche Monnex.
Really? Highbeams during the day???
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Correction: Brampton has the worst rates in the province of Ontario. Quoted Meloche Monnex.
I agree that the Sun is blinding. What I find is that high beams can shut down my peripheral vision for a period of time. Really bright ones leave bluish-purple afterimages.
Since it's illegal as explained above, I find it bizarre that 28 people here including at least one instructor and one driving school promote it to such an extent.
From the contents of their other posts I doubt that many of them wear reflective clothing which would definitely improve their visibility.
I thought that would be assumed, as we're talking about the GTA/Golden Horseshoe here, where the highest rates in the Province tend to be.
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Many riding schools seem to promote it on the basis that, since all vehicles are now required to run daytime running lights, motorcycles need some way in which to stand out in traffic, as they did before DRLs were required. There are far better ways to accomplish this. The post with the link regarding 'light camouflage' is a very good one, and very much on-point. A simple experiment is to put a bike in front of a bunch of cars, with the cars' headlights on and the motorcycle's high beams on, then see if you can easily pick out the outline of the motorcycle against the background of the cars. If the motorcycle also has marker lights in the signals, see if it's easy or hard to notice them.
Try it again with the high beams off and a rider mounted, with a red, blue, or (the best) hi-viz yellow jacket on. The difference is remarkable. Try again with a brightly coloured helmet. Now flick on the high beams. You'll find that you tend to lose the rider, in the background, because of the overwhelming brightness of the headlight.
High beams, as a means of improving visiblity, are as much snake-oil as the 'loud pipes save lives' mantra.
That's the point, and what makes it worth reading the previously posted links. If they see the light, then they don't see you and, though they see the light, it doesn't have the desired impact (avoiding impact).
Try the experiment, that I outlined. It's easy and can be done on pretty much any street corner.
vrus
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Turn up the lights in here baby
Extra bright, I want y'all to see this
Turn up the lights in here, baby
You know what I need
Want you to see everything
Want you to see all of the lights
but really, team no high beam
Turn up the lights in here baby
Extra bright, I want y'all to see this
Turn up the lights in here, baby
You know what I need
Want you to see everything
Want you to see all of the lights
but really, team no high beam
Maybe these people should take their bikes out to a shaded area during the day and point their high-beams into their eyes for 2-3 seconds.
Then if they see spots, hurt their eyes they might be a little more sympathetic towards following the law.
Are there some types of lights with warnings to not look directly at them that could cause vision loss? If so don't do this with them.
Then if they see spots, hurt their eyes they might be a little more sympathetic towards following the law.
Are there some types of lights with warnings to not look directly at them that could cause vision loss? If so don't do this with them.
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False comparison. The sun takes hours to change location significantly, not fractions of a second.
I find 1 light looks more like a car, I got passed a couple of time by some VFR and I noticed those 2 lights from far away.
BTW, I put my highbeam only for passing heavy trucks on the highway, so they notice me and don't change lane over me. It happen twice this season before I started to put my high beam.
Poser
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Whoa!!!!, that wasn't the answer I needed, just answer it normally.
I know that it's not the answer you needed, to try and support your flawed reasoning, but it's the answer I gave. The answer that you wanted, is a variation of one that I gave several pages back.
Poser
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I can't believe that you didn't believe that we didn't believe it could be done, and you had the time to reply and made my phone beep with an email letting me know that your reply was a useless reply to the thread.
Poser
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I'll wait on someone else to answer then, hopefully.
Poser
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Google usually aim ppl in the right direction.
The point he was trying to make is that that wasn't the point.
You're not trying to determine the size and speed of the sun in a fraction of a second to determine whether or not you can lane change or make a left in front of it.
And to answer your question: I put on sunglasses and turn up my collar!
