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Ramping difficulties

sid_for_speed

sid_for_speed

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I'm still having issues ramping steep banked off ramps... I find bike wants to veer to the inside of the corner...can't maintain a steady line.. my vision is good.. I look far ahead through the corner but I'm 50 pencing it... any suggestions... this happens mainly on heavily banked on or off ramps .. eg 404 south to 401ramp going eastbound
 
I noticed that my 2015 R6 holds it's line better than my 2012GSXR. But riding my friends 2010 GSXR was fine. Maybe I could have adjusted OEM steering stabilizer/damper on my old gixxer. I always thought it was my riding skills not the bike. Probably a little bit of both. You have oem stabilizer/damper on your bike?
 
sid_for_speed said:
I'm still having issues ramping steep banked off ramps... I find bike wants to veer to the inside of the corner...can't maintain a steady line.. my vision is good.. I look far ahead through the corner but I'm 50 pencing it... any suggestions... this happens mainly on heavily banked on or off ramps .. eg 404 south to 401ramp going eastbound
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Impossible to really know without following you, but possibly you have your weight too much forward, the more you ride the front wheel the more it acts like power steering. Get a trials bike and use it to cross train.

@Wingboy riding was excellent today.
 
Slight differences in tires or tire condition or tire pressure or the geometry of the bike will make the difference between the bike wanting to run wide (wanting to stand up and go straight), or be neutral, or wanting to fall in and feel like it is going to tuck the front end. Of course, the actions of the rider make the difference too, but If the bike is not doing what the rider wants, then something needs to be done.

A rider with track experience will pick this out in a second. A rider without track experience may not be able to explain what they feel, only that it's not right.

If the bike wants to fall in (steering feels nervous, steering feels unstable, "front end wants to tuck" check: Tire pressure too high, tires incorrect sizes for the rims, tires have a profile which is too triangular for what the bike wants, front ride height or preload too low, rear ride height or preload too high.

edit: If the bike in question is the one in the original poster's signature, "the bike" is not the problem (a late model Honda CBR600RR is fundamentally good), "something wrong with the bike" there is not enough information to exclude, "something wrong with the tires" who knows, "something wrong with the operator" maybe ...
 
I can demonstrate it on a dirt bike for you real fast, just tip your handlebars forward a whole bunch.
 
Assuming the issue is not the bike, but the technique of the rider, then head over to a parking lot and practice your technique.
If possible, have someone who is a smooth rider watching you to give you some verbal and photo/video feedback.
Start slow and focus on form and smoothness, then gradually increase your speed while maintaining smoothness.

Try setting up a large circle about 30m diameter and practice going one direction several times and then change directions. Pick an item to focus on (ex. vision, throttle control, components of body position, etc.) and practice over and over until you are consistently smooth and the fifty pencing will slowly become reduced.
Set up two large circles spaced about 3m apart and then practice figure 8's doing the same as above, but now also focusing on your transitions from side to side.

As Brian said there's so much about the bike itself that could contribute. I recently swapped bikes and moved from ATV handlebars to stock bars. The difference in feel of steering is pretty significant and for the first few weeks of owning this bike, any cornering felt very weird.
 
As some people have mentioned:
Check tire pressures
Check to make sure tires are matched brand/model. I've had mixed tires on and it definitely can make the bike feel weird.
Get track riding lessons

And lastly, you're possibly going too slow for the corner combined with the amount of counter steering you're applying.
Banked corners help you maintain MUCH greater speeds - look at NASCAR tracks. Without banked corners there's no way in hell they'd be going as fast as they are.
 
Haven't changed my mind about ramping is lame.
How hard are trying to get a knee down?
 
Wingboy said:
Haven't changed my mind about ramping is lame.
How hard are trying to get a knee down?
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Too hard :LOL:

... what is ramping anyway, I just assumed it was doing twice the posted speed limit around corners.
 
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