If i'm merging onto a highway, or looking to pass a slower car on a 2 lane road, esp if I'm towing a huge load, you're damn right I would care about acceleration.....
Ram 1500 Eco Diesel Review
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If i'm merging onto a highway, or looking to pass a slower car on a 2 lane road, esp if I'm towing a huge load, you're damn right I would care about acceleration.....
If you are driving aggressively with a huge trailer in tow, pushing your luck overtaking cars on a two-lane road, you are doing it wrong. I'd rather have my cargo arrive in the same state as it left, as opposed to being upside down, scrambled, or impounded for exceeding 105 km/h with a commercial vehicle and not having a governor. The transport drivers somehow manage, most of the time, with a whole lot worse power to weight ratio ...
I'm sort of confused on this acceleration thing. I drove every freaking truck I could find. I priced 2500,3500"s and 1500. I felt the RAM was the best performing truck I drove with out a load. I didn't read any test results as I wanted to make my decision.
I didn't buy the truck based on acceleration. I bought the truck based on function and fit. I pull a 7200 pound curb weight trailer 31 feet long. I'm not looking at performance in respect to 1/4 mile times. Doesn't make sense. If the truck can't pull the load it makes the stats redundant. All you have is a glorified mini van. So Torque was number 1,,,gas performance not towing was number 2. "IF" you say you are pulling a big load then you will understand what four way flashers are for. OR you buy a 3500 twin turbo and don't worry about it. I talked to diesel authorities and my mechanic. I looked at the load I haul ,the number of times I haul and the gas mileage with and with out the trailer. If what you like will do what you want then awesome,,,but 0-60 is irrelevant when towing a big load. Overall performance is what makes the sale. My test,, West bound 401 at Wooler Road just West of Trenton. The hill before the Onroute. We'll find out what works. everything else is talk! I'll report back when I get the "Wooler Road" Test done.
I didn't buy the truck based on acceleration. I bought the truck based on function and fit. I pull a 7200 pound curb weight trailer 31 feet long. I'm not looking at performance in respect to 1/4 mile times. Doesn't make sense. If the truck can't pull the load it makes the stats redundant. All you have is a glorified mini van. So Torque was number 1,,,gas performance not towing was number 2. "IF" you say you are pulling a big load then you will understand what four way flashers are for. OR you buy a 3500 twin turbo and don't worry about it. I talked to diesel authorities and my mechanic. I looked at the load I haul ,the number of times I haul and the gas mileage with and with out the trailer. If what you like will do what you want then awesome,,,but 0-60 is irrelevant when towing a big load. Overall performance is what makes the sale. My test,, West bound 401 at Wooler Road just West of Trenton. The hill before the Onroute. We'll find out what works. everything else is talk! I'll report back when I get the "Wooler Road" Test done.
Also the RAM diesel is a Fiat motor well used in Europe. Talking to my diesel authorities they say it is a good motor and used in lots of vehicles. So the technology maybe new to us but it's not new. The fact that they fit the Eco Diesel with an 8 speed tranny almost makes the statement they built it to work and they know it will.
Haha, my local test was the same. The diesel Jetta would do that hill trailer in tow in top gear on cruise control without losing speed. I think you will be okay.
Ahhhh, that's the million dollar question. The current diesel in the RAM isn't proven. It's an orphan engine from Fiat that was originally designed for a car. Cadillac bailed on it and chryco picked it up. Is it truly durable? Remains to be seen. This engine certainly doesn't have the heritage of say, a Cummins.
At the very least, the ford 2.7 was designed from the ground up as a 'truck' engine for heavy duty use.
Your beloved ecoBoost isn't really proven yet either. How many turbo F150s are up to half a million km so far? (and don't bother with your link to some ecoBoost race engine that isn't even remotely stock... irrelevant).
The Fiat/VM-Motori ex-GM 3.0 V6 diesel has been around in some form in Europe (start of production 2011) for longer than the 2.7 Ecoboost has been around (start of production 2015) ... Even confined to just the North-American-spec version (which differs only in emission controls) it has been around for a year longer.
The 3.0 V6 was a development of a 2.9 V6 that was originally developed for Saab and Cadillac in Europe several years before that, but it never saw production.
The 3.0 V6 was a development of a 2.9 V6 that was originally developed for Saab and Cadillac in Europe several years before that, but it never saw production.
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Yikes. I like the Eco Diesel alot, but for an extra $17,000? (of course some of that was the other options not just the drivetrain)....I had no idea there was such a huge difference in price. We highway drove Tyler's heavily optioned Hemi to Indy and back (It got better economy with me driving while he was sleeping,LOL- He is outtacontrol after all,LMAO)....but it still managed 650 kms on a tankful. So the diesel option might save you $25 per tank on a good day. You'd need to drive alot of kms to save $17,000 in fuel.
spaceboy
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Unfortunately you need to select a higher trim level to have the ecodiesel option. Same deal with GM if you want the 6.2, for example.
Congrats on your purchase, that ZF 8sp is lovely.
Read, don't skim, READ.....
(btw, this is from 2011, the same year it was introduced....)
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/0...a-torture-tested-ecoboost-v-6-looks-like.html
https://www.facebook.com/notes/musc...d-bare-in-front-of-live-audience/489211124997
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:lmao:I'm poking around on ramtruck.ca right now, and the only thing you can't get the Ecodiesel on is a standard-cab short-box base trim level (which no one buys anyhow). (edit: With the fancier models, it also looks like there are some cab/box combinations that disallow it. But bottom line is that although you can't get the Ecodiesel with the cheapest-possible configuration, you can get it on the second-cheapest ...)
For a base model (ST) regular cab with an 8 foot box, the Ecodiesel is inside a $6400 option package, of which $1000 appears to be the 8-speed transmission. They make you buy a trailer hitch and a spray-in bedliner in that price, and the "Tradesman" package, whatever that is. A V6 or V8 gas engine with the same hitch, bedliner, and "Tradesman" package and 8 speed automatic is a $1700 option package ... so the real extra cost of the diesel is $4700 compared to either of the gas engines. MSRP $34,390 for the cheapest Ecodiesel that it will let you configure.
That's not the 2.7L engine you keep talking about either.
