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Q for condo folk, how much would you pay for security?

Something like this would work

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I'm toying around with a design for an anti-theft device that's geared towards condo owners.

In simplistic terms its a free standing front wheel chock that locks onto the bike and makes it too big to fit into a van and would require a lot of effort/time to cut apart so that it would fit.
The question... is how much would the average condo owner be willing to pay for such a product?

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Don't waste your time...seriously.

I tried to do something similar years ago and 99% of the people are all talk, and zero interest once its time to put up or shut up. You'll price it at 300 and they'll pm you and offer $20 CASH BRO! lol
 
A valid concern, it happens with riders who use disc locks but I always used a disc lock reminder, the bungee cord thing that wraps around the throttle grip, so it would be difficult to forget.

It would be easiest for me to draw up a sketch for this thing to illustrate what I mean, but there are a few aspects I haven't fully figured out yet. But, believe me, it would be next to impossible to forget that this thing was attached to your bike. Further, if positioned properly the rider would roll into the lock, and have to pull the bike backwards out of the lock, and out of their parking space.

Would it be easy enough to pull it out on your own? I have a wheel chock on my trailer and it's hard to pull my bike out of it with out some added push from someone else. This would be a turn off to do every time I needed my bike.
 
Would it be easy enough to pull it out on your own? I have a wheel chock on my trailer and it's hard to pull my bike out of it with out some added push from someone else. This would be a turn off to do every time I needed my bike.
But you would have a bike to push, know what I mean?
 
Would it be easy enough to pull it out on your own? I have a wheel chock on my trailer and it's hard to pull my bike out of it with out some added push from someone else. This would be a turn off to do every time I needed my bike.

Don't worry, that would not be a issue.
 
Don't waste your time...seriously.

I tried to do something similar years ago and 99% of the people are all talk, and zero interest once its time to put up or shut up. You'll price it at 300 and they'll pm you and offer $20 CASH BRO! lol

Very valid point. When starting a business your friends can be your worst enemies. They want to encourage you and since it isn't their money they paint a rosey picture. If they haven't run their own business they have no idea of the hurdles one must overcome. Of course if they buy one they want it at cost.

BTW If the condo board won't let you bolt the thing down how do you keep someone from stealing it when the bike isn't there?

Price: If you go to Princess Auto you see steel fabrications of different items made in China. They go on sale for about a dollar a pound. If your design is successful can you compete at those prices.
 
Paul1000RR is right when he states that you can't exactly base your ideas of how popular your project will be based on things like internet yes-men, but I have an idea. Have you ever heard of "Kickstarter"? It's a programme for funding things like industrial and creative projects, via pledges from the public. You set a pledge amount that you need to fund your project and then advertise it. People pledge the money for the project through conditional payments through someone like Amazon.com and if the level stated is reached, the money gets pulled from the pre-authorized debits of pledgers. I've kicked in pledges for a couple of creative projects, both of which met their goals.

You need a plan, perhaps something demonstrative of your project, and maybe some sort of bonus like custom colouring, discounts for people who pledged, or the like and then you go to town.

http://www.kickstarter.com/
 
You need someone to make a robust bixi motorcycle type device.
 
+1 kickstarter.

Just wanted to add that most people in my condo building, self included also have a car and park bikes perpendicular to their cars at the front or back. In my view a great locking mechanism would somehow "attach" to the car since the condo will not allow you to permanently fix something to concrete.

This has got me thinking, if there was a stationary lock which had tracks attached in which your car could drive over, it would fix the lock to the ground.
 
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Here is a rough sketch of how this might look, Green is the bike lock, with tracks going under the wheels of the car, blue is the bike in the lock.
 
Oh and for what its worth, i think $350 is too low for a decent lock, I think if you came up with something that really worked for condos, you could charge in the $700-$1000 range.
 
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Here is a rough sketch of how this might look, Green is the bike lock, with tracks going under the wheels of the car, blue is the bike in the lock.

wouldin't it be time-consuming to get your bike into that parking position (perpendicular to parked cars) if both your neighbors have their vehicles parked in their assigned spots? :confused: .. the parking spots at my condo are very narrow.... i bet they are to the minimal spec'd width per code to maximize spaces.
 
wouldin't it be time-consuming to get your bike into that parking position (perpendicular to parked cars) if both your neighbors have their vehicles parked in their assigned spots? :confused: .. the parking spots at my condo are very narrow.... i bet they are to the minimal spec'd width per code to maximize spaces.

It would actually be quite easy, with the proper setup, but what about when you take the car instead of the bike?
 
Oh and for what its worth, i think $350 is too low for a decent lock, I think if you came up with something that really worked for condos, you could charge in the $700-$1000 range.

For low-mid range bikes that are worth between $4000 to $8000... adding $1000 to that might be a bit much, although not out of the question. If the price were that high, the market audience might be limited. My 1000RR when I had it would have been worth 5-6K and I wouldn't pay $1000... again thats just me.
 

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