Poll: When will Israel attack Iran?

When will Israel perform a military strike against Iran?

  • This month

    Votes: 4 14.8%
  • October

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • November before the US election (Nov 6)

    Votes: 5 18.5%
  • November after the US election (Nov 7)

    Votes: 7 25.9%
  • December before the end of time prophecy (Dec 21)

    Votes: 3 11.1%
  • Some time after the end of time prophecy (Dec 22+)

    Votes: 8 29.6%

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
oh i believe it, like i said, they have been using "attacks" on Israel as justification to further expand. Someone attacks, they plow down the buildings, build walls to "secure" the area and then have settles move in. Systematic expansion...
 
The biggest threat to peace in the middle east right now is the current Israeli government (and a few of the past ones too).
 
why does North America has to be involved in every war conflicts across the ocean. The Europeans, Asians and Africans should be taking a leading role. Every time we help we're just setting our self up to be a bigger target. When has a country ever thanked us by repaying us to liberate them?

We have this massive debt to tackle and we're near impossible to be invaded unless it's the Americans.
 
Whoeee, the way things are going over there, its bound to happen. USA can condone or condemn Israels pre-emptive attack all they want, Israel has shown that they dont give a rats ***. They WILL pre-emptively strike at anyone they consider a threat. When a neighbouring country is actively seeking/developing a Nuclear arsenal and is calling for Israel being wiped from the face of the earth, it kinda puts things into different perspective.

this is known as a deliberate mistranslation
 
Well if we are talking about non signatories to the treaty then there is also Pakistan and North Korea.

Both countries the West will also topple and / or prop when the time is right. NK is a stain on the US's record having only reached a stalemate in their war, rather than an outright win. They are the quintensential "Iranian Revolution", just over 50 years prior and of a by gone Communist era. None the less an embarrassing thorn in their side.

Pakistan is a consequence of India, in terms of Nuclear armament. Sanctions and strong politics didn't work against India, and Pakistan was left in the position of an arms race. But in this case India has been embraced by the US, despite India's pursuit of Nuclear weapons and a stockpile 10 times that of Pakistan (roughly 100 warheads as of 1974 statistics). But the situation today is that the US is using India as a bulwark against China and also the Muslim world. India is the "defacto Anglo" of the region and will serve as great human fodder against a Chinese land army.

NK is well under control but also serves as an excuse to meddle in Eastern affairs. NK constantly puts fear into 2 US allies (Japan and S Korea) and will make for a great excuse to send warships into the region under a false pretext. Taiwan and the Philipine (dispute over S Chine Sea territory) is simply too imflamatory and not a clear cut case for "intervention", such as NK presents.

So for the most part Pakistan is a consequence of India, but the US will get to them later, and NK is actually a benefit to the US for later sabre rattling.

PS you know who leaked the Manhattan project's nuclear secrets to Israel in the first place? Eduard Teller aka "The Father of the H-Bomb" and head of the Manhattan Project...look into where his alliegences lay!

Oh and who leaked the Manhattan Project's secrets to the Soviets? Theodore Hall and Klause Fuchs; both (both scientists working on the Manhattan Project).

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/Spies-Who-Spilled-Atomic-Bomb-Secrets.html


Israel's involvment in the building and dessemination of Nuclear weapons makes them the most prolific proliferator of WMDs the world has known, both building and developing them as well as spreading them globally. It is no surprise the current situation is the way it is today. Israel is BAR NONE the largest threat to world peace today and has been a considerable menace since 1918 (and the Belfour Decleration) and prior in the form of the Zionist movement (though well behind the US, Germany and the Soviets until now). Israel has constantly threatened that if even conventionally attacked, they will Nuke the region...while they go on attacking Palestinians and taking more land and creating an apparteid state...hmmmmm, yeah Iran is the threat?

Iran on the other hand was controlled by a British / Russian then turned American puppet monarchy and in 1953 when the Iranians had a DEMOCRATIC change in government, the US (CIA) over threw it and re-installed the dictatorship of the Shah! It seems the US wasn't too happy to have an "Iranian Spring" back then! So...28 years later the pendullum swings (predictably) to a more extreme revolution (BTW, also a democratic one, but this time extremely hostile to the US) and this time to pre-empt a CIA coup, the revolution of 1979 took the entire US embassy (which was a US spy ring anyways) hostage. This hostage crises prevented the US from covertly or overtly invading after the 1979 revolution the way it had in 1953!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

So once again, whooooooooooo is the threat in the region / world? Who is ratcheting up the rhetoric for war right now?

Oh forgot to mention, also in 1979, due to the US's inability to invade Iran, they sponsored the new dictator who assumed power through a military coup next door....That's right, our old buddy Saddam! And the US sponsored an 8 year war with Iran!!!!!

Iran hasn't initiated a war in the region or ANYWHERE in over 150 years! Oh and those last wars, they were with Ottoman Turks and largely border territory skirmishes. It would be worth researching why they were invaded and occupied in WW1 also, when they had NOTHING to do with the war or even the Ottomans! Why then was Iran (then the Qajar Empire was pre-decided by the British and Russians to be shared "spheres of influence"....you guessed it...for OIL!!!) They are also (if they are even pursuing nuclear weapons) behind the US, Israel, Russia, China, North Korea, Britain, France, India, Pakistan, South Africa (attained under the appartheid state but since self-decomissioned).

Yeah Iran is a real threat, yup sure, time to pull the embassy, yep, bomb them back to the "stone age", yep, not us, we're no threat - they are.
 
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why does North America has to be involved in every war conflicts across the ocean. The Europeans, Asians and Africans should be taking a leading role. Every time we help we're just setting our self up to be a bigger target. When has a country ever thanked us by repaying us to liberate them?

We have this massive debt to tackle and we're near impossible to be invaded unless it's the Americans.

"Liberate them"? You're expressing word for word a common perspective held by Americans on their own role in international relations. It may or may not have anything to do with reality, and it's certainly not relevant to Canadians.

There should be a simple test to check the validity of a claime that military intervention is for 'liberation' purposes.

1- Is the local population struggling against their oppressor?
2- Do they broadly seek outside help?
3- Do our goals in intervening match theirs?
4- Is there a reasonable probability of acheiving success?

Unless we can honestly answer "yes" to all of these questions, then a so-called liberation is really just an invasion.
 
"Liberate them"? You're expressing word for word a common perspective held by Americans on their own role in international relations. It may or may not have anything to do with reality, and it's certainly not relevant to Canadians.

There should be a simple test to check the validity of a claime that military intervention is for 'liberation' purposes.

1- Is the local population struggling against their oppressor?
2- Do they broadly seek outside help?
3- Do our goals in intervening match theirs?
4- Is there a reasonable probability of acheiving success?

Unless we can honestly answer "yes" to all of these questions, then a so-called liberation is really just an invasion.

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The US have been planning an invasion for a while now. Once there are more stories in mainstream media about the human rights abuses in that country, you'll know that we're just waiting for a date of the invasion to liberate Iranian people and their tasty oil. Gas prices won't go down significantly.
 
Whoeee, the way things are going over there, its bound to happen. USA can condone or condemn Israels pre-emptive attack all they want, Israel has shown that they dont give a rats ***. They WILL pre-emptively strike at anyone they consider a threat. When a neighbouring country is actively seeking/developing a Nuclear arsenal and is calling for Israel being wiped from the face of the earth, it kinda puts things into different perspective.

By no means do i like Iran or its government but justice should be done. There is no proof of Iran developing Nuclear weapons, even the US intel denies it, they are enriching Uranium.

President of Iran never called for wiping out Israel, its just Western media propaganda. Anyone who understands Persian will know what he said. Infact an Israeli minister agreed with it.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/


This is what he said in Farsi "“Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.” notice how Israel isn't even there in the sentence.

Rezhim stands from regime

I rest my case
 
By no means do i like Iran or its government but justice should be done. There is no proof of Iran developing Nuclear weapons, even the US intel denies it, they are enriching Uranium.

President of Iran never called for wiping out Israel, its just Western media propaganda. Anyone who understands Persian will know what he said. Infact an Israeli minister agreed with it.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/


This is what he said in Farsi "“Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.” notice how Israel isn't even there in the sentence.

Rezhim stands from regime

I rest my case

Cool, didn't know that.

And it's no different from interpretimg this comment as an oblique suggestion that Israel wants to nuke Palestinians;
http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=129109
 
Gas prices won't go down significantly.

Really?????


Why would they, lets see, they pull in BILLIONS of dollars of profit, if they "assume" the market will go up they increase there price at the pump, and when they pay dollars less per barrel, we get a $0.02 decrease, and we seem happy then...........

The government has never stepped in yet, and they won't either.
(look how much tax the government gets from gas)
Why on earth would they want to force a decrease?
 
Why on earth would they want to force a decrease?

I didn't say they would, but they used that argument to sell the Iraq war to the most selfish population segment south of the border after the WMD hoax was out and nobody paid for it other than the whistleblowers. They also used sappy propaganda ads with wounded vets and mothers whose sons died in the war crying "don't let our sacrifice go for nothing".
 
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