Please help: Huskey bit my dog and owner won't answer my calls

[Red695]

It's unfair to generalize the breeds and any dog owner would know that. The owners are the problem.

Different breeds do have different dispositions. Husky's are often a problem and I believe statistically account for more dog attacks on people (reported ones, no one reports when a chihuahua bites them) than any other breed because they have a high prey drive and can be aggressive by nature. Not all breeds have a high prey drive and thus can get away with not being well trained. Bottom line is if your dog has issues you can be a good owner and address them or you can do what this chick has done and be an ***.

 

[FiReSTaRT]

It's unfair to generalize the breeds and any dog owner would know that. The owners are the problem.

So blame it on the personality type that'll get a husky... ****en hipsters

 

[Hachi-Roku]

Looks like someone needs to learn to control their own dog while off leash.

 

[invictus43]

Different breeds do have different dispositions. Husky's are often a problem and I believe statistically account for more dog attacks on people (reported ones, no one reports when a chihuahua bites them) than any other breed because they have a high prey drive and can be aggressive by nature. Not all breeds have a high prey drive and thus can get away with not being well trained. Bottom line is if your dog has issues you can be a good owner and address them or you can do what this chick has done and be an ***.

It doesn't have anything to do with "prey drive"..they're dominant and aggressive dogs, and it can be any breed. I will agree with your last sentence..to the point that a lot of people are unwilling or unable to become good dog owners. Dogs are just an accessory..like a Coach purse..

 

[invictus43]

So blame it on the personality type that'll get a husky... ****en hipsters

Haha! Nah..some people just want a dog because they're cute..and they can't control them in all situations. Even people that are good with dogs can't watch them 24/7. It only takes a few seconds for a full-on bite. I hate leash free areas because there's always one jack-*** with his/her bad-*** muttley...

 

[Red695]

It doesn't have anything to do with "prey drive"..they're dominant and aggressive dogs, and it can be any breed. I will agree with your last sentence..to the point that a lot of people are unwilling or unable to become good dog owners. Dogs are just an accessory..like a Coach purse..

Uh, yeah it does.

 

[EvolutionIV]

LOL I know that plate #, it belongs to a car that very nearly got me killed last year. I'm pretty sure I reported it to Road Watch last year. Not related, but perhaps irresponsible character gets passed down.

LOL. Glad to know you are okay. What happened to you last year?

 

[EvolutionIV]

Thanks for all the support guys and girls. Apparently, its not the first time this dog has bitten someone and I hope they put a muzzle order on the dog. I hope the dog doesn't get harmed in any way from this action I am taking, but this irresponsible owner has to be made responsible. I will update this thread will more info as it happens.

But from asking around I have a good idea who she is. The RFD thread has links to her FB profile.

 

[EAGuy]

Turned left in front of me after making eye-contact and clearly misjudging my speed/distance. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, but it's also highly likely he's just a dumb piece of **** behind the wheel or arrogant as all ****.

Speaking of the dog though, I knew a fobby girl back in secondary school who really wanted a Husky. She pleaded with her parents (the family had no experience training dogs) and so she got one. Beautiful, massive dog but damn it was out of control. I've noticed a lot of families new to dog training will bend to a spoiled brat's desire and huskies are one of the most attractive breeds (IMO). I see this more often than I'd like, but I really wish wannabe pet owners would think and have more respect for intelligent breeds like the Huskies.

Disclaimer: (shouldn't have to write this) I can only speak from my own observations, and these are garnered from interpersonal experiences as well as traveling through my own neighborhood. There are a number of Huskies in my area, all owned by new Canadian families (mostly new to dog training & ownership from what I gathered in brief conversations) and I've seen their Huskies really get away from them several times.

 

[murf]

I don't recall ever seeing a well trained Husky. It can be done, but not by most owners. They aren't the best for obedience....they do after all just want to run.

http://www.netpets.org/dogs/reference/breedinfo/submit/sibhusk.html

"Siberians are usually very sweet gentle members of the family and the typical properly tempered Siberian is predictably good with children. They are not protective by nature so they will not bite your children's friends when they are rough housing or attack an unsuspecting neighbor who jumps your fence. They are nomadic and nonterritorial though, the flip side of their being nonprotective, and so must be restrained by being fenced or on a leash at all times"

"While Siberians are extremely intelligent, this does not mean they are obedient. Most Siberians have their own ideas of what they want to do, well before you give them a command to do something, and will be on their way to doing what they thought of first before hearing your command. Siberians, like most Northern breeds, are difficult to make come when they are called and are likely to turn to you, after you throw a ball for them to fetch, and say, "you threw it, you pick it up." Experienced obedience people have made unbelievably well trained dogs out of Siberians because the breed is so smart, but the average dog lover makes too many mistakes in training this intelligent breed, such that the Siberian learns how to get his own way and teaches you to accept it."

 

[Yamaha_Gurl]

It doesn't have anything to do with "prey drive"..they're dominant and aggressive dogs, and it can be any breed. I will agree with your last sentence..to the point that a lot of people are unwilling or unable to become good dog owners. Dogs are just an accessory..like a Coach purse..

I agree. My greyhound has prey drive, 200+ races...ya, that's prey drive. BUT she is very well socialized, she now knows little white fluffy dogs are DOGS, and to never bite.

Things like that can happen in seconds, you can't blame the owner for not stopping it in an instant...but you can blame the owner for not socializing her dog right from the start. OP, was this at a dog park or just regular park? I'm assuming both were off leash? I'm now saying this about the accident, but I see how some little dogs are sooo jumpy/yappy and plain rude, was your dog "bugging" the husky? (I don't really need an answer, just want to inform little dog owners to watch their dogs, and to know when YOUR dog is being rude).


I just wanted to note...when I said I stay away from Husky's, it's not cause I think they have a bad rap, it's cause I read the NEWS and see how many "accidents" there have been. Check out kijiji, so may husky's are re-homed, more than any other breed, there is a reason for that.

 

[invictus43]

I agree. My greyhound has prey drive, 200+ races...ya, that's prey drive. BUT she is very well socialized, she now knows little white fluffy dogs are DOGS, and to never bite.

Things like that can happen in seconds, you can't blame the owner for not stopping it in an instant...but you can blame the owner for not socializing her dog right from the start. OP, was this at a dog park or just regular park? I'm assuming both were off leash? I'm now saying this about the accident, but I see how some little dogs are sooo jumpy/yappy and plain rude, was your dog "bugging" the husky? (I don't really need an answer, just want to inform little dog owners to watch their dogs, and to know when YOUR dog is being rude).


I just wanted to note...when I said I stay away from Husky's, it's not cause I think they have a bad rap, it's cause I read the NEWS and see how many "accidents" there have been. Check out kijiji, so may husky's are re-homed, more than any other breed, there is a reason for that.

Yeah, I pretty much agree. Dogs aren't prey to other dogs. Dogs fight for dominance and control over other dogs. Socialization is important, control and understanding of dog behaviour is important. Big dogs when they are poorly controlled can cause serious damage. Little dogs do the same thing but we think it's cute because they don't cause big damage generally. It's just unfortunate that people watch a movie then want the dog because they think it will be all cute and smart like in the movie.

I'm not sure about your anecdotal husky thing on kijiji though.. Could just be that people want a husky for whatever reason and aren't prepared to control a big dog. I mean, a lot of these people have no clue how to take care of a dog.

http://notesfromthefunnyfarm.wordpr...to-bite-you-might-be-surprised-at-the-answer/

 

[dr_sarcasm]

Go after her for your vet bills and get animal control involved.

I speak from a similar incident...

A few years back, one of my friends came over to my place to drop some stuff off. She had her mini-rat a.k.a. some small dog with her. My female Dane at the time, mistook said mini-dog for lunch, and bolted between me and the open door where she mauled said rat (errr, I mean small dog). She had never displayed a territorial instinct before that day...

Emergency vet bills to put mini-dog back together? Almost $2500. Which I paid, given it was a friend. HOWEVER, the vet called animal control who appeared on my doorstep to tell me that my dog had been deemed a serious risk ("vicious") animal, and that I had to place a special tag on her collar (big red hexagonal name tag warning she could be vicious) and display one of those 'Warning' signs that states I house a potentially vicious dog on my premises. Now, keep in mind that this all occurred on my porch a.k.a. my property; according to animal control, had this happened in a public space, the consequences (according to them) could have been worse (I'm guessing dog could be/would be seized and potentially put down).

 

[rbjeepthing]

Having rescued quite a few Huskies in my life time I can tell you like all breeds it is always the owner so don't put down the breed because an owner has not done their research or been able to train a specific dog breed.

Huskies are a pack breed and their temperament is based on this. Have one that thinks it's an alpha male and your dog will ruin your life it's as simple as that. My Huskies have always known I am the alpha male and that they are a folower with people and other dogs. The older they are the harder it is to get them to understand this and break the routine of them being dominant. I have actually been able to have two of my previous Huskies CF4AASS certified for therapy. Another big thing is why anyone in the city would want a dog breed that needs exercise constantly is beyond me. In a Huskies early to mid years they require as much excercise as possible. Even with a walk in the morning and a run at night all my Huskies have required open areas to run through out the day to even get them to remotely settle down in the evenings.

For anyone who wants to make an educated evaluation of breads temperaments have a look at this independent testing. basically any breed 70% or less i would consider questionable.

http://atts.org/breed-statistics/statistics-page1/


To the OP: Sorry to hear your dog was injured again dont blame the dog blame the owner as clearly she does not want to accept the actions of her dog.

 

[Banger]

Thanks for all the support guys and girls. Apparently, its not the first time this dog has bitten someone and I hope they put a muzzle order on the dog. I hope the dog doesn't get harmed in any way from this action I am taking, but this irresponsible owner has to be made responsible. I will update this thread will more info as it happens.

But from asking around I have a good idea who she is. The RFD thread has links to her FB profile.

I understand your frustration but you may be going about this unrealistically.
I have worked with dogs both civilian and military.
One thing you have seemed to have forgotten is provocation. I am not pointing fingers but from my experience, there are always two sides to a story.
I am not saying your dog had it coming but some times a person who is unfamiliar with dog behaviour wont see the signs that their own dog actually instigated the bite.
By no means am I condoning the actions of the husky. I am inclined to agree that Huskies are a tricky breed. Fiercely loyal with twitchy instincts that can usually piss off other dogs (mine included) but some people just don't know how to handle a powerful breed and shouldn't get one.

I think this is all hearsay.
Dogs will be dogs. They are animals. Anyone who fully 100% trusts their dog is asking for trouble. You can't expect to throw a bunch of animals in an enclosed space and hope there wont be scuffs here and there. I look at the dog park as being a mosh pit. High energy strangers coming together to play. Every now and then, there is bound to be some fights and a few sucker punches.

Lastly, the dog park is not a place of exercise much to many people's belief. It is an area for socialization. It's a place that is used as a reward. To bring a high energy dog into a dog park is asking for trouble.

 

[EvolutionIV]

Turned left in front of me after making eye-contact and clearly misjudging my speed/distance. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, but it's also highly likely he's just a dumb piece of **** behind the wheel or arrogant as all ****.

Speaking of the dog though, I knew a fobby girl back in secondary school who really wanted a Husky. She pleaded with her parents (the family had no experience training dogs) and so she got one. Beautiful, massive dog but damn it was out of control. I've noticed a lot of families new to dog training will bend to a spoiled brat's desire and huskies are one of the most attractive breeds (IMO). I see this more often than I'd like, but I really wish wannabe pet owners would think and have more respect for intelligent breeds like the Huskies.

Disclaimer: (shouldn't have to write this) I can only speak from my own observations, and these are garnered from interpersonal experiences as well as traveling through my own neighborhood. There are a number of Huskies in my area, all owned by new Canadian families (mostly new to dog training & ownership from what I gathered in brief conversations) and I've seen their Huskies really get away from them several times.

Nice. Make eye contact but ignore, good job cager.

 

[EvolutionIV]

Go after her for your vet bills and get animal control involved.

I speak from a similar incident...

A few years back, one of my friends came over to my place to drop some stuff off. She had her mini-rat a.k.a. some small dog with her. My female Dane at the time, mistook said mini-dog for lunch, and bolted between me and the open door where she mauled said rat (errr, I mean small dog). She had never displayed a territorial instinct before that day...

Emergency vet bills to put mini-dog back together? Almost $2500. Which I paid, given it was a friend. HOWEVER, the vet called animal control who appeared on my doorstep to tell me that my dog had been deemed a serious risk ("vicious") animal, and that I had to place a special tag on her collar (big red hexagonal name tag warning she could be vicious) and display one of those 'Warning' signs that states I house a potentially vicious dog on my premises. Now, keep in mind that this all occurred on my porch a.k.a. my property; according to animal control, had this happened in a public space, the consequences (according to them) could have been worse (I'm guessing dog could be/would be seized and potentially put down).

Yep, already called animal control and in the processing of finding her. Wow! How did you get your manage to get your Dane off the other dog?

 

[EvolutionIV]

To the OP: Sorry to hear your dog was injured again dont blame the dog blame the owner as clearly she does not want to accept the actions of her dog.

Thanks for your kind words. My German Sheppard's "girlfriend" is actually another husky whom he frequently plays with, owned by a responsible owner. So no worries, I won't be hating on the dog.

 

[EvolutionIV]

I understand your frustration but you may be going about this unrealistically.
I have worked with dogs both civilian and military.
One thing you have seemed to have forgotten is provocation. I am not pointing fingers but from my experience, there are always two sides to a story.
I am not saying your dog had it coming but some times a person who is unfamiliar with dog behaviour wont see the signs that their own dog actually instigated the bite.
By no means am I condoning the actions of the husky. I am inclined to agree that Huskies are a tricky breed. Fiercely loyal with twitchy instincts that can usually piss off other dogs (mine included) but some people just don't know how to handle a powerful breed and shouldn't get one.

I think this is all hearsay.
Dogs will be dogs. They are animals. Anyone who fully 100% trusts their dog is asking for trouble. You can't expect to throw a bunch of animals in an enclosed space and hope there wont be scuffs here and there. I look at the dog park as being a mosh pit. High energy strangers coming together to play. Every now and then, there is bound to be some fights and a few sucker punches.

Lastly, the dog park is not a place of exercise much to many people's belief. It is an area for socialization. It's a place that is used as a reward. To bring a high energy dog into a dog park is asking for trouble.

I totally understand what you are saying. I'd like to believe I am a responsible dog owner, since he was a puppy I've taken him to public and then private dog training and obedience classes. He's been well socialized with small and big dogs (he lives with a small Pom and there have not been incidents) and every other pet owner comments on how well behaved he is. But I know, that doesn't mean he is the perfect dog and he might have somehow instigated the other dog, as animals do have an unpredictable nature.

I am upset that this owner seems to take no responsibility for her actions. After this incident, we spoke with many people about it and apparently this dog and owner has a history of biting other dogs. I am still trying to get in touch with the actual owner of the other dogs that got bitten, to get first hand information and confirmation.

I've realized though that, like you said, the dog park is not the best place to bring my dogs to exercise though!

 

[nobbie48]

My SIL is a vet and commented that there is a theory that since dogs are decendants of hunter packs (Wolves) that communicated by yips and yaps that there are some possible yips or yaps that trigger agressive behavior. All from ancestoral background.
It's beyond me but it would explain why a docile animal can suddenly bite without provocation. The yip / yap doesn't have to come from a dog. It could be a frequency generated by a squeeky hinge.