You have kids, you will probably need the extra room the Canyon has. Ranger has a bit more cargo room but Canyon has a bit more power. Ranger gets a bit better gas mileage. I think you have a choice of engines in the Canyon while you dont in the Ranger (unless you go for the Raptor). Canyon is at least 5K more in equivalent trims.
Pickup Trucks
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My buddy always has trucks. He tried a canyon once and went back to full size and never looked back. Canyon was not much cheaper, was not much better on gas, could tow and haul a hell of a lot less and engine was working far harder. That was a previous generation, I have no idea about current gen.
It was a customer order that the customer backed out of. The only options he had ordered were the running boards and trailer sway control (but no hitch. Im guessing its because they wanted $800 for it. I got a Curt for $220 and 10 mins to install). They wouldnt budge on price but waived the cost of trailer sway and admin and upped my trade-in by $500 (for an '05 X5) to get me down to the 40K
Mikedezo44
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So has Ford...85k for a F150 Lariat just about 100 grand with tax. Need to be making over 100k a year to afford one. Have talked to many people that don't want the payment. One of my brothers buddies was complaining the other day he paid 38 grand for a decently equipped one in 2012, now doesn't even want to think about the payments on a new one.
I envy another buddy with a cushy civil construction job that drives around to sites, all he needs is a basic white XLT, but gets fully loaded top of the line model every 3 years. Just got his new one. Hasn't had to purchase a personal vehicle in the 15 years I've known him, or pay for insurance, fuel, cellphone. That is big savings every month. Many of them on the roads must be paid for by big companies.
Mad Mike
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I like RAMs. Drive them hard, put them away wet, they rumble along. I have an 07 I bought new, it only has 140k on the clock. All I've done is replace the oil pan (rusted out). I have CAA pay as you drive ins, I use it infrequently as a truck, costs me $300 yr to insure.
My last RAM went 475k with zero repairs. Just LOF, brakes and tires... Retired at 15 years due to rust. My wife's GMC went 300k, I'd need 3 pages to list repairs... Head gaskets, multiple fuel pumps, actuators, tranny...
I was at the Ford store yesterday , I’m ‘considering’ an F250 cab and a half ,8ft box 4x4 . I think I want to put a slide in camper on it . Not well equipped but not wind up windows either , after tax 90ish K . The slide in camper I like is 70k . That’s a lot of hotel rooms.
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48Connor
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Ive had two 4th gen Ram 1/2 tons. Never had any issues with them. Id buy another. My dad is on his 3rd GM/Chev as they keep breaking. The 2009 broke a cam shaft in half, the 2012 had the oil issue they all seem to have had, but the 2017 he has now has been good. Its gone through an exhaust in 130k which is odd.
I was going to order a Maverick but they gone up in price so much I think Ill pass - not going to wait 18 months and pay close to $40k after tax for something with no options. I was in a new GM Canyon the other day, what a beautiful truck, but pricey.
Trucks are expensive...
I was going to order a Maverick but they gone up in price so much I think Ill pass - not going to wait 18 months and pay close to $40k after tax for something with no options. I was in a new GM Canyon the other day, what a beautiful truck, but pricey.
Trucks are expensive...
guzzirider
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For the price of a new or reasonably new pick-up you can do a lot of van rentals from Home Depot.
No insurance cost, no maintenance, no depreciation, no loan interest, no milage charge & 10ft 5" of cargo length.
Only need to pay for gas used.
I used to own a GMC extra cab 8ft box with a 6 litre engine to tow an 18ft. travel trailer.
For the price of gas and campsites I could stay in a 4 star hotel!
It sat in the driveway for 6 months at a time without being used.
Finally got smart and put my trailer on a lake lot and sold the truck.
No insurance cost, no maintenance, no depreciation, no loan interest, no milage charge & 10ft 5" of cargo length.
Only need to pay for gas used.
I used to own a GMC extra cab 8ft box with a 6 litre engine to tow an 18ft. travel trailer.
For the price of gas and campsites I could stay in a 4 star hotel!
It sat in the driveway for 6 months at a time without being used.
Finally got smart and put my trailer on a lake lot and sold the truck.
Think outside the box.
My brother moved back from Panama and was waiting for his PU to come back by ship. He had some jobs needing materials so he rode a bicycle to HD, ordered the material and a rental truck. After unloading and returning the truck he rode back to the job. He could have done it by transit.
Years ago I was doing a reno for an 80+ YO guy and mentioned I needed another four 2X4s. He walked a half mile to the lumber yard bought the studs, tied them together with string and carried them back on his shoulder. He lived well into his 90s, sharp as a tack.
Campsite prices in Canada are stupid, if you can find one. Worse still if you don't want to listen to beer talk until 3:00 AM.
A buddy bought a two year old RAM 4X4 crew cab a dozen years ago for $25K, put 200 K on it and sold it last year for $20 K. He had a few minor repairs but nothing stupid expensive. His new upper middle range 2500 RAM was $90 K.
guzzirider
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If it does not have a 8ft box it's a SUV not a truck!
Yes, but for the OP and myself who may need it for around the property during the year and for getting out of the driveway in the winter, sometimes ponying up for a decent truck has to be done.
guzzirider
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Trucks are like motorcycles.
We all can justify the NEED for one when the reality is we WANT.
If you are worried about getting stuck in your driveway buy a good snowblower and proper winter tires for your car.
A quad with a trailer is probably more use on an acreage.
When I lived in Sault Ste Marie I had 4X4 trucks but we did a lot of hunting and fishing on forestry roads.
We all can justify the NEED for one when the reality is we WANT.
If you are worried about getting stuck in your driveway buy a good snowblower and proper winter tires for your car.
A quad with a trailer is probably more use on an acreage.
When I lived in Sault Ste Marie I had 4X4 trucks but we did a lot of hunting and fishing on forestry roads.
OntFF
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There’s a reason F150 is the most popular vehicle in Canada.
RAM trucks are nice…but according to Reddit every RAM driver is automatically an a$$hole.
Late to this party - and just catching up...
I drive an '18 GMC with the 5.3 V8 - get 12.5l/100km in real-world mileage - pretty much identical to my wife's Explorer - 1600 lbs payload, towing of about 11k (in theory) - I routinely tow a 7000 lb travel trailer with no issues.
1/2t (1500 series) Rams are very comfortable riding - but the trade off is the soft suspension reduces payload and towing drastically...
I've owned F150s and SuperDuties, GMC/Chev twins (1/2t and 1t) and Rams - they all have strengths and weaknesses.
My Ram 1500's are rated to tow ~12,500lbs. How much more would one want to tow with a half ton?
Good logic, until you realize once you leave the driveway you’ve got tens of km’s to go through and the plows won’t be out for hours.
I always enjoy where the replies in forums go.
No want for a trailer, I have property to maintain so a P/U Truck would be much easier to move around.
I will require it to move materials, supplies from businesses to my home. Hay, straw, feed, lumber etc.
I'll be living on dirt roads so something with AWD, 4x4 will be desirable.
I'll need a 2nd vehicle (trading in wife's car) She'll take my SUV.
I don't travel far, maybe 15K a year.
Happy to buy used, new, base model whatever.
I can afford the payments (no top of the line baller models)
In all honesty, I already know what I'll get, but I always like to start conversations on this forum.
No want for a trailer, I have property to maintain so a P/U Truck would be much easier to move around.
I will require it to move materials, supplies from businesses to my home. Hay, straw, feed, lumber etc.
I'll be living on dirt roads so something with AWD, 4x4 will be desirable.
I'll need a 2nd vehicle (trading in wife's car) She'll take my SUV.
I don't travel far, maybe 15K a year.
Happy to buy used, new, base model whatever.
I can afford the payments (no top of the line baller models)
In all honesty, I already know what I'll get, but I always like to start conversations on this forum.
OntFF
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Half ton Rams use coil springs in the rear - payload is typically 500-900 lbs lighter then a similarly equipped truck from another brand with leafs... Ram rides WAY nicer unloaded, but sags hard under any kind of weight. Solution is factory or aftermarket air ride - which works nicely, but can be expensive to maintain down the road....
It's not slagging Ram at all, just weighing pros and cons - I run with 500 pounds of tools in the bag regularly - a truck with a 900 pound payload won't work for me.. but empty, my truck rides hard. A Ram rides like a dream... all about the usage case.
Sister posted they took my BiL's pickup out for a Sunday drive this afternoon. What you can get away with when you can sign your own safety.
