options for a low displacement retro styled new bike?

That 175 is pretty cool... I would be tempted to go that route instead of the Sym. I still think a TU250 or a Grom would be best for you. Just the same that 175 would make an interesting option if you had it thoroughly checked over by someone like Rosey Toes...

yah i've totally axed out the sym wolf as a choice and right now i'm just focusing on the tu250x for sure! these 30-40 year old hondas look great but i just dont think i want that as my very first ride, especially when im not mechanically inclined.

but damn this 71 yamaha r5 looks awesome

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/...er/1069944397?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
 

That 1971 R5 is a 350cc 2 stroke, unlike today's 4 stroke. It needs its own TLC. I had a friend who rode on way back and it got him into all sorts of trouble, eventually crashing and landing him in hospital. Then again he rode like an idiot. The powerband would probably scare you. The front drum brake positively scares me just looking at it. A bike that already has the cafe style will cost a lot more money than if you do it yourself. Take an older cruiser and cafe it.

How about refining your search to be more specific: 4 stroke, disk brake in front, etc. You could look for an '80s 500cc cruiser in good condition that you can fix up, for no more than $1k. The better condition it is in means less repair but a slightly higher purchase price. But you really need to commit to learning to wrench your own bike, which for many of us is half the fun. You can learn.
 
Is a 2-stroke even a reasonable option in the city? When I was looking for my first (and current) bike, I almost fell for a steet-legal '74 Kawasaki F11, but it didn't seem like a wise choice to putter around downtown TO, mostly because of the smoke.


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yah i've totally axed out the sym wolf as a choice and right now i'm just focusing on the tu250x for sure! these 30-40 year old hondas look great but i just dont think i want that as my very first ride, especially when im not mechanically inclined.

but damn this 71 yamaha r5 looks awesome

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/...er/1069944397?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

For a guy who isn't mechanically inclined the tu250x is an excellent choice. I'm building a CM250c as a retro bike. I might have gone with the TU250x had I even known it existed. It even has a kick start. Guys are changing to a 15 tooth drive gear to get better MPG and more top end for the highway. From what I understand the Suzuki engine is also very smooth, which is important at higher RPM.
 
That 1971 R5 is a 350cc 2 stroke, unlike today's 4 stroke. It needs its own TLC. I had a friend who rode on way back and it got him into all sorts of trouble, eventually crashing and landing him in hospital. Then again he rode like an idiot. The powerband would probably scare you. The front drum brake positively scares me just looking at it. A bike that already has the cafe style will cost a lot more money than if you do it yourself. Take an older cruiser and cafe it.

How about refining your search to be more specific: 4 stroke, disk brake in front, etc. You could look for an '80s 500cc cruiser in good condition that you can fix up, for no more than $1k. The better condition it is in means less repair but a slightly higher purchase price. But you really need to commit to learning to wrench your own bike, which for many of us is half the fun. You can learn.

oh i'm not getting that r5 at all. it just looks awesome is all. although today, alex from town moto just let me sit on her custom kawasaki w650 and it was just possibly the most beautiful thing i've ever seen.

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Is a 2-stroke even a reasonable option in the city? When I was looking for my first (and current) bike, I almost fell for a steet-legal '74 Kawasaki F11, but it didn't seem like a wise choice to putter around downtown TO, mostly because of the smoke.

For a guy who isn't mechanically inclined the tu250x is an excellent choice. I'm building a CM250c as a retro bike. I might have gone with the TU250x had I even known it existed. It even has a kick start. Guys are changing to a 15 tooth drive gear to get better MPG and more top end for the highway. From what I understand the Suzuki engine is also very smooth, which is important at higher RPM.

yep definitely sticking with the tu250x option for now. not many seem to pop up used though. its come to the point where im considering getting one brand new, partly due to having warranty on it but then knowing that i may possibly drop it a few times before getting used to it isn't too great either. hmm.
 
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