Ongoing Bell Internet ********..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

daught said:
I am definitely not speaking from a proffesional standpoint. Maybe from my experience when I was 14 :p
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It was always fun getting onto other people's home networks. Good enough to have a sweet home server setup with daily backups...not good enough to lock down your Wi-Fi. Rofl
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Rob MacLennan said:
You're speaking from a professional standpoint. I'm talking about stopping the average neighbour who read a blog.
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Nothing in the world is easier than setting encryption type to WPA2 and setting up a decent password. Gone are the days of some computers not supporting WPA2. Compare that to having to set encryption type anyway, same goes for the password and then doing mac filtering and whatnot. By the way the WEP way will still be crackable within 5min by your average teenager who took 1hr of downloading some free, easy to use tools and reading the instructions.
 
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Rob MacLennan said:
You can pretty much use whatever encryption method you want as long as you don't advertise your Net ID, don't use the default subnets, and enable MAC based filtering. At that point it will either be a network professional or a 14 year old kid who hacks you, neither of which you can stop.
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Horrible advice.
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

I've changed my WEP-2 password and will be unplugging the router/modem overnight and while I'm at work. I'll re-locate it for eas of plug/unplug later... but this will be the set up for the next 3-5 days until I can confirm bell isn't sucking or adding bandwidth when it isn't even on.

As of 11:51pm before official shut-off

4.57 GB Download
5.12 GB Upload


I'll up date results when I leave from work.
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

+1 for suspecting P2P traffic of an uninvited guest as the culprit. Also +1 on the advice given to set WPA2 security (which can still be hacked btw, it's just tougher), hiding SSID, MAC filtering, changing router password and checking client list/connection logs for unfamiliar machines.

You can also limit the assignable IP range to exactly the number of devices you have in your household and assigning static IP addresses to them. For example, if you have 5 machines connected then set the range to something like 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.105. This way, there will be no available IPs for other machines.

None of this is fullproof, just a deterrent that is only as effective as the strength of the would-be "hacker's" kung-fu.
 
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Yes, obviously set WPA-2. Just don't leave it at that when there are so many other easy things to do. Why am I the only person who seems to be saying that network announcement should be disabled?
 
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Rob MacLennan said:
Yes, obviously set WPA-2. Just don't leave it at that when there are so many other easy things to do. Why am I the only person who seems to be saying that network announcement should be disabled?
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Because it does nothing to hide from people capable of cracking WPA2 and a good number of people WAY less technical than that. When someone intent on cracking a wifi password scans for networks, they can see all of them within range of their hardware regardless of them being "hidden" or not. Hiding your network does nothing for your security. There is 1 thing that will help when it comes to SSID's (wireless network names)... Change it from default that came with the router/modem. Seeing that Bell553 or Linksys0117 is very juicy bait as it announces that you're technically incapable of something as simple as that so there's no way you can set a strong password.
 
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FiReSTaRT said:
Because it does nothing to hide from people capable of cracking WPA2 and a good number of people WAY less technical than that. When someone intent on cracking a wifi password scans for networks, they can see all of them within range of their hardware regardless of them being "hidden" or not. Hiding your network does nothing for your security. There is 1 thing that will help when it comes to SSID's (wireless network names)... Change it from default that came with the router/modem. Seeing that Bell553 or Linksys0117 is very juicy bait as it announces that you're technically incapable of something as simple as that so there's no way you can set a strong password.
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Low hanging fruit. Why ADVERTISE?
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Rob MacLennan said:
Low hanging fruit. Why ADVERTISE?
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The point I'm raising is that both fruits are equally low. You can "hide" your SSID but when scanned with cracking software, they will see your network as well as the other so it's false security. Change the default name, set encryption to wpa2 and put in a password that's not easy to bruteforce - those are the effective measures.
 
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FiReSTaRT said:
The point I'm raising is that both fruits are equally low. You can "hide" your SSID but when scanned with cracking software, they will see your network as well as the other so it's false security. Change the default name, set encryption to wpa2 and put in a password that's not easy to bruteforce - those are the effective measures.
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You're assuming a skilled hacker. I'm saying that you can't make that assumption and the more simple stuff you can do, that is left undone, the more attractive your network looks from the outside. Do you steal the bike with the lock on it, or the identical one next to it without one? Low hanging fruit.
 
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Mr.Azim said:
I've changed my WEP-2 password and will be unplugging the router/modem overnight and while I'm at work. I'll re-locate it for eas of plug/unplug later... but this will be the set up for the next 3-5 days until I can confirm bell isn't sucking or adding bandwidth when it isn't even on.

As of 11:51pm before official shut-off

4.57 GB Download
5.12 GB Upload


I'll up date results when I leave from work.
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Bull-****ing-****

The modem/router is still unplugged........ and has been for the last 8 hours and 30 minutes.

Download: 6.02 GB
Upload: 5.28 GB

The answer?

Raymond: We just need to change the Internet access password and update in your modem .

Raymond: Then refresh your line profile Internally from here.

Raymond: Then need to change Sync your account with us again.

My answer: Cancel service.
 
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Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Rob MacLennan said:
You're assuming a skilled hacker. I'm saying that you can't make that assumption and the more simple stuff you can do, that is left undone, the more attractive your network looks from the outside. Do you steal the bike with the lock on it, or the identical one next to it without one? Low hanging fruit.
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WPA2 is your lock. I'm telling you that whoever uses tools that can even crack a WEP network sees the hidden and broadcast SSID's on the same list. To them, hidden or not, the fruit is at the same height. If you set A key (password), you're already safe from the guy for whom your network being hidden or not would matter.
 
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I really don't think theft is an issue..... it looks like a bad connection, or even install? It has something to do with the line or hardware. There's no logical response to explain how internet usage increased when the modem was unplugged.
 
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Mr.Azim said:
I really don't think theft is an issue..... it looks like a bad connection, or even install? It has something to do with the line or hardware. There's no logical response to explain how internet usage increased when the modem was unplugged.
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If you're disconnected and it increase it definitely is legitimate ******** lol

oh bell you never cease to amaze me
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

FiReSTaRT said:
WPA2 is your lock. I'm telling you that whoever uses tools that can even crack a WEP network sees the hidden and broadcast SSID's on the same list. To them, hidden or not, the fruit is at the same height. If you set A key (password), you're already safe from the guy for whom your network being hidden or not would matter.
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So choose your analogy; your bike is on the front lawn instead of in the garage.
 
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Why is it anytime one of these types of threads pop up, two or more guys decides they need to do a dick measuring contest?

Guess what, you all just labelled yourselves as nerds. Its like two comic book nerds arguing whos the best superhero....

Tell Bell to **** off, call up Teksavvy and live happily ever after
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Mr.Azim said:
Bull-****ing-****

The modem/router is still unplugged........ and has been for the last 8 hours and 30 minutes.

Download: 6.02 GB
Upload: 5.28 GB

The answer?

Raymond: We just need to change the Internet access password and update in your modem .

Raymond: Then refresh your line profile Internally from here.

Raymond: Then need to change Sync your account with us again.

My answer: Cancel service.
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If your looking at the usage on the bell website, It isn't up to date, I have noticed it days off.
 
Re: Ongoing Bell Internet B*llsh*t..... What is "Normal" for Idle time?

Rob MacLennan said:
So choose your analogy; your bike is on the front lawn instead of in the garage.
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Bad analogy as well. Your home network is just as safe from the neighbor who doesn't know hacking tools exist and just as unsafe from the one who uses them. Without hacking tools he can't get into it whether he can see it or not as long as it has a password. With hacking tools he sees all the wireless networks anyway, so he picks'em based on signal strength not based on whether it's "hidden" or not.
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