Oil Filter Wrench

robmack said:
The OP is winterizing the bike, so, it's not a good idea to run the engine after changing the oil because it will contaminate the new oil. The reason for changing oil just before winterizing is to prevent the old oil from ruining the aluminum block. Oil chemistry changes over periods of extended storage. Old oil can develop acidic qualities, which can corrode engine parts. Just leave the bike alone after changing the oil. If you need to adjust the level, do so in the spring.
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If you don't run the bike after the oil change the oil filter will remain empty all winter. Come spring time when you do go to start the bike, the oil pump will have to fill the filter first before any oil gets sent to the rest of the motor. Do you think that will be good for it?

I ALWAYS run the bike before draining the oil to make sure all bearings and lifters and such are lubricated. Drain the oil, replace filter, fill oil, then start the bike again to make sure the oil system is primed.
 
elton_t said:
when you put the new oil filter on, dont use any tool, just hand tighten it. it wont fall out
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And oil the outside ring so it comes off easily the next time you do a change.
 
caboose483 said:
If you don't run the bike after the oil change the oil filter will remain empty all winter. Come spring time when you do go to start the bike, the oil pump will have to fill the filter first before any oil gets sent to the rest of the motor. Do you think that will be good for it?

I ALWAYS run the bike before draining the oil to make sure all bearings and lifters and such are lubricated. Drain the oil, replace filter, fill oil, then start the bike again to make sure the oil system is primed.
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When starting any vehicle that has been sitting for a while, I pull the power to the coil (or pull the plugs, or leave the fuel off or whatever is an easily accessible way to keep the engine from starting) and crank for 5-10 seconds, let cool for a minute, 10 seconds again, and repeat a third time. This gets oil everywhere and builds pressure before it fires up. When you reconnect and fire it up, you know that everything is lubricated the instant it fires.
 
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caboose483 said:
If you don't run the bike after the oil change the oil filter will remain empty all winter. Come spring time when you do go to start the bike, the oil pump will have to fill the filter first before any oil gets sent to the rest of the motor. Do you think that will be good for it?
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Fill the new filter with oil before installing it in the engine. For my BMW, this works well because the filter is installed inverted (threaded upwards). Other bikes may not allow this prefill if the filter is sideways but some oil may remain in the filter even so. I understand your concern as you've outlined but don't know if I can address it because I don't have a great deal of knowledge about modern motorcycle engine design to offer an informed response.

caboose483 said:
I ALWAYS run the bike before draining the oil to make sure all bearings and lifters and such are lubricated. Drain the oil, replace filter, fill oil, then start the bike again to make sure the oil system is primed.
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According to internet wisdom, running the bike before filter change is good and recommended. Running the engine after oil change is bad because of the contamination of the new oil with old remaining after the drainage will just exacerbate the threat of corrosion. How much this conclusion is based on empirical data and how much is old wive's tales, I don't know. I just think that it makes sense to me and I follow the advice. You are completely free to choose otherwise.
 
robmack said:
Fill the new filter with oil before installing it in the engine. For my BMW, this works well because the filter is installed inverted (threaded upwards). Other bikes may not allow this prefill if the filter is sideways but some oil may remain in the filter even so. I understand your concern as you've outlined but don't know if I can address it because I don't have a great deal of knowledge about modern motorcycle engine design to offer an informed response.

According to internet wisdom, running the bike before filter change is good and recommended. Running the engine after oil change is bad because of the contamination of the new oil with old remaining after the drainage will just exacerbate the threat of corrosion. How much this conclusion is based on empirical data and how much is old wive's tales, I don't know. I just think that it makes sense to me and I follow the advice. You are completely free to choose otherwise.
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My oil filter spins on horizontally so filling it prior to installation is not an option. With that in mind, I will not leave it empty all winter and start it in the spring with an empty oil filter.
 
I think I've heard it all now. A simple job of changing the oil has become an exercise in minimising the damage the old toxic waste oil, that just yesterday was doing a good job of lubricating and protecting your engine, will do! Does the part of the motor that houses this undisturbed oil completely corrode to nothing over the winter if you don't start it?
Come on guys, stop spouting nonsense and just change your oil and don't worry about it. I've seen engines that sat for years with old oil in them and have never seen any signs of corrosion.
 
Hand-tight on, oil filter pliers to take it off.

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I also fill my filter with oil before putting it on. Not too full though. I almost fill it to the top, then swirl it around (think whiskey in your glass). Most of it will absorb, and not pour out when I turn it horizontally to thread it on. That said, I also start the bike, put it in gear and ride the driveway in order to get it ready to check the oil level.
 
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nokturnal said:
I also fill my filter with oil before putting it on. Not too full though. I almost fill it to the top, then swirl it around (think whiskey in your glass). Most of it will absorb, and not pour out when I turn it horizontally to thread it on.
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Don't try this method unless you are willing to clean up a mess lol.

When your removing your oil filter, do you just take it off with no oil spilling as well?
 
nokturnal said:
Sorry... I take it back... and bow to your blue LED-glow-skillz.
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Well the fact that I own the same bike as the OP is the reason I was giving him advice that will work on his bike, I know (along with common sense) what would happen if you fill an oil filter to the top and then turn it sideways? It ould work on a vertical filter but not the OP's bike.
 
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