NY motorcyclist dies on ride protesting helmet law

I don't like being told I have to....I choose to. Could you wear a helmet on the protest ride?
 
Well, a spokeperson was interviewed afterwards and essentially said that the rider died standing up for what he loved and believed in. I guess in that case all should be considered good, right?
I too was struck by the irony of the article. As to dying doing what you love, when I had my big accident and was flying through the air I remember thinking to myself "This is a ****** way to go"
 
I heard that someone blamed it on his boot choice. Apparently his lace got caught in the chain and he panicked.
 
I just wish there was a way for me to avoid paying for, or otherwise be inconvenienced by, someone else's poor decision. And riding without a lid is very obviously a poor decision.

What if I think riding motorcycles is a poor decision? I don't want to pay for...or otherwise be inconvenienced by your poor decision to ride a motorcycle. Let's ban motorcycles. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?141858

Who decides what a poor decision is?
 
And the only way he can "avoid paying for, or otherwise be inconvenienced by, someone else's poor decision" is to move to a different planet, one that is off-limits to humans :cool:
 
how ironic...
 
What if I think riding motorcycles is a poor decision? I don't want to pay for...or otherwise be inconvenienced by your poor decision to ride a motorcycle. Let's ban motorcycles. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?141858

Who decides what a poor decision is?

Ahh, the old "if I have to wear protective equipment, it must not be safe" argument. If you really feel that way, then feel free to give up riding. We need some rules to protect those who cannot protect themselves. That's where our governments usually come in, in Canada. This situation just makes it kind of obvious.
 
Even with that, I'm still against helmet laws.. Just another thing that the government has to put its nose in.. Helmet laws or no helmet laws, I'd still wear one, but it's my choice

Absolutely... +1

FiReSTaRT said:
....Better yet, let's all wrap ourselves in bubble-wrap

+1

turbodish said:
Well, a spokeperson was interviewed afterwards and essentially said that the rider died standing up for what he loved and believed in. I guess in that case all should be considered good, right?

+1.

It's all about choice and rebellion which I'm definitely down with but I think dying like that makes things worse for the cause. Now The Man can use him as a poster boy for their crusade. Maybe they shoulda just challenged it in court or something.
 
Ahh, the old "if I have to wear protective equipment, it must not be safe" argument. If you really feel that way, then feel free to give up riding. We need some rules to protect those who cannot protect themselves. That's where our governments usually come in, in Canada. This situation just makes it kind of obvious.
My question is...who decides what a poor decision is? Is notnwearing gear a poor decision? Is riding a motorcycle a poor decision? Should we let the writer in the article I posted decide? Or maybe...just maybe...we should each decide for ourselves! :)
 
My question is...who decides what a poor decision is? Is notnwearing gear a poor decision? Is riding a motorcycle a poor decision? Should we let the writer in the article I posted decide? Or maybe...just maybe...we should each decide for ourselves! :)

Oh no, Paul.. Don't present the peons with choices, horrible choices.. They'll just get confused.. They need the government to tell them what's good for them :shock:
 
My question is...who decides what a poor decision is? Is notnwearing gear a poor decision? Is riding a motorcycle a poor decision? Should we let the writer in the article I posted decide? Or maybe...just maybe...we should each decide for ourselves! :)

We're too far gone now. So many safety labels and regulations have been put in place that at this point half the world's population would disappear very quickly if it was all taken away. Not to mention the average human has a complex because they've always been told humans are the dominant species and a lot of people take that as invincible. It's hard for some people to gauge the magnitude of their decisions until they're hurtling through the air towards the coarse embrace of asphalt.
 
My question is...who decides what a poor decision is? Is notnwearing gear a poor decision? Is riding a motorcycle a poor decision? Should we let the writer in the article I posted decide? Or maybe...just maybe...we should each decide for ourselves! :)

We elect a government to decide as proxies for us, since we cannot work and decide everything at the same time. Feel free to nag your representative if you do not like the decisions that they are making for you. The problem with all deciding ourselves, is that some of us are not able to make good decisions and our decisions affect others and their decisions. We need to draw a line somewhere. When that representative decided that children should not be on motorcycles we complained and that decision was rescinded.

Shhh, whatever you do, don't tell Firestarter that we are the government. He might actually get out and exercise his democratic right to vote.
 
Lol.. The time of "us" being the government is long-gone. Democracy has really failed us. In any case, I go out to vote every time, specifically to be able to respond to such suggestions with "I already did, not that it matters" :cool:
 
What if I think riding motorcycles is a poor decision? I don't want to pay for...or otherwise be inconvenienced by your poor decision to ride a motorcycle. Let's ban motorcycles. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?141858

Who decides what a poor decision is?

I think there's a time and a place to extend a philosophical notion.

It's not hard to formulate a pretty objective argument for helmets. They significantly reduce the odds of death, cost under $100, make a very unsafe hobby safer, ...

Motorcyclists do pay for their dangerous hobby in the form of super-high insurance, most of which covers potential medical expense cost. If mandating ATGATT reduced my rates by 20%, I'd do it - I wish I had that choice.

It's not like the guy in the 'awareness ride' died planting a flag on the moon, landing on Normandy or curing cancer.
 
who's to say wearing a helmet would have saved his life?

The doctors. There was no impact with anything else except for the head hitting the pavement. Doctors attributed cause of death to a skull fracture that a helmet would have prevented.
 
Lol.. The time of "us" being the government is long-gone. Democracy has really failed us. In any case, I go out to vote every time, specifically to be able to respond to such suggestions with "I already did, not that it matters" :cool:

I take it then that Canada is the closest thing to democracy that you can find, or that apathy has set in, and your relatives are close by.

The doctors. There was no impact with anything else except for the head hitting the pavement. Doctors attributed cause of death to a skull fracture that a helmet would have prevented.

Some of his fellow riders attributed it to inexperience. Their argument is that if he hadn't crashed he would not have needed a helmet.
 

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