"Not 250 friendly rides" - What does that mean?

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DollyMix said:
means we're unwanted because we're not cool enough and should go elsewhere which is fine with me :)
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There ya go! Don't follow!! Be a leader! :-)

Look, the person posting about non-250 rides obviously has some personal experience that leads them to warn 250 riders to not bother showing up. Is it THAT big a deal?? Are people going to go cry in the corner about it?? Yeesh..go on your OWN ride!! Have fun!! Do you really want to be pushing your limits to try and keep up to a litre bike on the street? Like, really?? Stow your pride and enjoy the day! Man..kids these days..
 
motorsiklet said:
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First, your HTML sux.. :-)

Second, yeah, Rossi on a 250 will show a lot of street wankers up..the point is, the VAST majority of people riding a 250 are beginners. Let them ride in peace! Why drag them on a sport-tour of epic proportions that they have NO hope of keeping up to?? Is that fun??
 
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I didnt read any of this thread but being a very frequent ride leader I will give my .02

Not 250 friendly means the ride leader doesn't want 250s on his ride. The reason for this is generally going to be because the pace is going to be too fast for your average 250 rider to keep up with. Yes, there are some very quick 250 riders around who might be able to keep up with fast paced rides. However, if the ride leader doesn't know all who are attending he doesn't want to risk having some noob riding over his head trying to keep up.

Not including 250s on a ride is not generally meant as disrespect towards 250 riders, but is meant to keep them safe. I have picked more than enough 250s(and many other bikes too) out of ditches who were riding over their head trying to keep up with people they shouldn't have been.

This is generally why I and many other group leaders don't post public rides anymore. Having guys you don't know show up and crash gets old after a while. I ride with the same group of guys pretty much exclusively now because we all ride around the same pace and we know each others place.
 
on a ride this year had some 250's come out,one fellow crashed two times on the same ride he was very lucky on the second crash it was a lowside and he skittled across the road narrowly being missed by a cager in a corner,we were not doing crazy speeds just enjoying the twistys for this I am always a bit sceptical of any noobs but do not exclude just a bit wary as I would hate to see some one get seriously injured on any ride I am on
 
victorbrca said:
So I see a lot of ride threads that show as not 250 friendly... and I was wondering why would that be? Is it lack of knowledge from someone who never rode smaller bikes?

I mean, I understand that when taking off from a stop sign or at lights a 250 might take longer to get to a certain speed (not that you couldn't just push the bike harder to do so)... but unless you are cruising way above the speed limit (let's say over 170km/h), the 250 will out corner must other bikes. So I don't get it!

Is it maybe assumption that 250 riders are all noobs?
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The assumptions is that all riders present are noobs, thus those riding the 250s will be at a disadvantage. If you're talking experienced riders, if you're doing any kind of riding short of full out racing, it doesn't matter. And if you are racing, you're insane.
 
invictus43 said:
First, your HTML sux.. :-)

Second, yeah, Rossi on a 250 will show a lot of street wankers up..the point is, the VAST majority of people riding a 250 are beginners. Let them ride in peace! Why drag the on a sport-tour of epic proportions that they have NO hope of keeping up to?? Is that fun??
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That's a great reality TV show idea. Drop Rossi (or similar ringer) into a group ride and see how many of them can keep up. Then, just as they're getting spanked, spring the cops and tow trucks on them. Each episode finishes with the candid camera reveal. In lieu of tickets, everyone donates to some sort of charity. Ta-Da!

Yeah, it would never happen. Supersport ding dongs would be tumbling into the ditch all over the place and breaking axle sticks.
 
murf said:
Unless you are riding a 250 GP bike your ninja 250/CBR250 with its cheap suspension and tires wont outcorner most other sport bikes
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I see an awful lot of riders on supersports, whose riding wouldn't tax a 250. Unless you mean that the higher spec suspension, etc., is saving them from their exceedingly poor riding technique?
 
I've been on my 250 for over 50k km since 09, I don't know if I still qualify as a noob...

A ******** of tickets,school expenses, and age is what really keeps me from upgrading right now and I plan to ride another 50k on it.

I've pretty much done it all on a 250...its more than enough really. You can't go light speed and launch it like the big boys, but if you know what you're doing you'll be right on their tail. I've ridden with all the big bikes and at the most I'll be a few seconds behind them coming to a stop sign or something...

Many riders think a faster bike will make them faster, but its not the case, I always get a laugh out of the guys on bigger bikes who are only able to pass on a straight in perfect conditions...It like dude, you're barely pushing 200 of your however many cc's and you're looking to jump on a bigger bike??

Regarding these 250 group rides, not even I go on them to be honest. If I ever do I'll try and get an idea of the experience level first. I have no interest of having to tag along slow as hell or having to rip it past and ditch the group.
 
250 cc riders masturbate themselves to sleep dreaming of schooling guys on bigger bikes in the twisties. Fact. Problem is, there are lots of straights and hill climbs, highways, and some rides just aren't suited to a 30 hp bike, it's not fun for the person wringing their bikes neck to attempt to keep up, or for the people waiting at a stop wondering if there was a crash behind them. That minute wait is sometimes through a light that changes to red, now the gap is bigger. It just doesn't work. And it's the same for a rider on any sized bike that doesn't have the skill and or confidence to ride the pace of the leader, I'm not picking on 250's, I started on smaller than that. Unfortunately people don't know, what they don't know, and try and jump in a ride that isn't suited to them. Doesn't always end up being fun or ending well.
 
at_28 said:
I participate regularly in a group ride with all 1000cc bikes and two Ninja 250's, the two guys in their 250 run wide on right turns all the time and sometimes even turn into oncoming lanes at slow speeds like 30km/h while everyone else in their 1000's are itching to pass them(Our rule is small CC's in the front and large cc's in the back). So your argument that 250 out corners everyone else only holds true if the rider is experienced enough.
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You got it all wrong. With this setup you have all the guys that want to go fast get bored to death, while the guys up front feel pressured to go quicker.

Fast in front, slow in back. Everyone ride their own rides. Thats how we do it.

mikbusa said:
250 cc riders masturbate themselves to sleep dreaming of schooling guys on bigger bikes in the twisties. Fact. Problem is, there are lots of straights and hill climbs, highways, and some rides just aren't suited to a 30 hp bike, it's not fun for the person wringing their bikes neck to attempt to keep up, or for the people waiting at a stop wondering if there was a crash behind them. That minute wait is sometimes through a light that changes to red, now the gap is bigger. It just doesn't work. And it's the same for a rider on any sized bike that doesn't have the skill and or confidence to ride the pace of the leader, I'm not picking on 250's, I started on smaller than that. Unfortunately people don't know, what they don't know, and try and jump in a ride that isn't suited to them. Doesn't always end up being fun or ending well.
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lmao!
 
It's a warning that there will soon be a post in the Fallen Riders, Insurance, Laws/Regulations/HTA, or Good/Bad/Ugly Thread.

It would be nice if routes were posted so that the general vicinity could be avoided by other riders.

It's assumed that 250's won't be able to outrun the fuzz, so they're being nice by warning everyone.
 
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invictus43 said:
There ya go! Don't follow!! Be a leader! :-)

Look, the person posting about non-250 rides obviously has some personal experience that leads them to warn 250 riders to not bother showing up. Is it THAT big a deal?? Are people going to go cry in the corner about it?? Yeesh..go on your OWN ride!! Have fun!! Do you really want to be pushing your limits to try and keep up to a litre bike on the street? Like, really?? Stow your pride and enjoy the day! Man..kids these days..
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She keeps up with my 750 just fine, she is by now one of the best riders I hang with
 
I would much rather ride with a 250 noob than a 600 noob.
 
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