I don't think you even realize what that little argument was actually about because you don't understand the technology or how it works. Therefore you don't understand what Im actually saying to you. So I'll just drop it after I repeat myself one last time: there's no difference between the method in which both these phones deliver GPS services. They both use the same assisted system and they both have actual GPS receivers built into them. And it's called A-GPS in both phones.
I'm going to try very, very hard to explain this without sounding like an ***, and I'm honestly saying this to
help you. I've noticed this same thing in several threads. You constantly post things wherein you take a condescending or downright derogatory tone, posting "facts" and saying that everyone is wrong about this or that. But you never actually post any references, nor make any effort to explain why you think you're right and everyone else is wrong.
When this debate about GPS began, I went out and started looking at GPS vs A-GPS, and everything I read indicates that they can be different technologies. You can do A-GPS without having a GPS chip, whereby location is determined strictly from cell/wifi location. GPS uses satellite signals to determine location. According to what I've read, the N1 uses GPS (it has a GPS chip, and can therefore determine location from GPS satellites alone), but has A-GPS support for faster location lock. The NS, on the other hand, appears to have
only a-gps and therefore cannot get a location outside of cell range.
If I'm wrong about this, and I may well be, rather than implying I'm an idiot for being incorrect, why don't you either explain
how I'm wrong (which will actually give the impression that you know what you're talking about, rather than the impression you currently give people of being a contrary child; and I mean this to give you some insight in how you come across, not to be insulting) or direct me to sources that back up what you say and explain why. As it is, your "arguments" in this thread and others carry no weight because all you do is insult people who don't agree with you rather than share the knowledge you purport to have.
Now, here is some of the information that I'm using to come to my conclusion that both systems are not necessarily the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS said:
A typical A-GPS-enabled receiver will use a data connection (Internet or other) to contact the assistance server for aGPS information. If it also has functioning autonomous GPS, it may use standalone GPS, which is sometimes slower on time to first fix, but does not depend on the network, and therefore can work beyond network range, and without incurring data usage fees.[3] Some aGPS devices do not have the option of falling back to standalone or autonomous GPS.
I've seen conflicting information about the NS and whether it will get a GPS signal without cell service, but I
know the N1 does (I tried it tonight).
And with that, I'm done discussing this topic with you. Firestart started this thread asking about which he should get. I gave my opinion based on what I know and what I've used. I (hopefully) provided some insight that helps him make a decision one way or the other, and have (hopefully) done so in a way that doesn't make it seem like I'm lecturing to an unruly child.
Firestart (bolded that so you'd catch this part if you skipped over most of this post - which I'd probably have done were I you), if you have any further questions about Android or the N1, feel free to ask me. I don't purport to know everything about either of them, but am more than happy to share what I do know. I also have some friends much more knowledgeable than myself (they do a bunch of Android-related research) and am more than happy to pass any questions along.
