New MV F4RR are in Ontario

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The Road Warrior said:
I too was completely unimpressed with these bikes at the bike show. Yes they look great on pictures, and yes they look/sound good when they fly by you on the highway, but at the show was the first time I got the chance to see it up close and sit on one and it looked cheaply made, and outdated design like the previous poster here said.

I am sure it's a fantastic handling machine but I am talking design and build quality. In my opinion at least, and I guess it's all personal taste as well.
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First let me say that I love the MV's. I'm seriously looking at the F3 for my wife. But, I do agree with Warrior's observation about SOME elements of the build quality. The welds, particularly on the F4 exhaust are fairly ugly.

Low rider said:
You want outdated and ugly.
I would take this over any Ducati.
And point is, everybody at Timmies would walk right past any bike to come take a look at this.

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That is one of the most beautiful bikes ever built, but doesn't detract from the point that the MV is dated. Personally, I don't care, I still find it very attractive. But it is true that it is a dated design. That's not a bad thing IMO.

The Road Warrior said:
And I also think that Ducati 916 design was total crap and that 999 was much better looking, in fact one of their best looking bikes of all times and it doesn't matter that most people won't agree with me on this one, like I said, all comes down to personal taste.
Just saying, cause it was mentioned a few posts above.
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I also prefer the 999 to the 916. So you aren't unique. :D
 
Low rider said:
You're just not getting it.
The 916 was an icon. It introduced all sport bikes to the new era.
But keep hiding behind your tree.
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The 916 was an icon to 99% of the bike world, to me, it's an ugly POS. ha ha :)

So I guess I am one of those 1% losers that don't have a clue what a nice bike should be, oh well.
 
The Road Warrior said:
The 916 was an icon to 99% of the bike world, to me, it's an ugly POS. ha ha :)

So I guess I am one of those 1% losers that don't have a clue what a nice bike should be, oh well.
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Are you trying to say that not everyone loves the same things? Really? I'm shocked.:p
 
Low rider said:
Something's wrong with this?
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Yeah its a 14 year old design. Ive been looking at that bike for more than a decade!

You guys are drooling over their rarity but they've been selling in the states for a long time. Ive been seeing them for years and years. Its not as special as it used to be.

The 1099 absolutely blows this thing out of the water in all aspects.
 
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Hey guys check out my sweet new MV!!!

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j/k its a 2000 ;)
 
Still want the RSV4 Factory APRC more. I think it's just a better bike in all ways. However... the F4 certainly has the look and the pedigree to be awesome, and the motor is apparently top of the food chain for (peak) power. I do think the 1199S is also a better bike by a long shot and if I had to choose between those three Italians, I couldn't pick the MV.

But I also couldn't fault someone for wanting one.
 
What pedigree? When is the last time MV won anything international? They don't race their bikes. They haven't raced their bikes seriously in over 30 years. Also, I've been reading tests and comparisons of the MV F4RR and it's definitely not top dog for power. MCN has a video on YouTube pitting it against the BMW and Kawi, and it comes in last.

I still like the bike despite the aged design, but it's definitely outclassed in all manners by Ducati and Aprilia. And to me it has lost most if it's previous appeal, partly because it's now being imported to Canada, and partly because the design simply doesn't stack up against the competition.
 
Dahulk said:
Yes according to mmmnaked this is outdated
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That's funny cause I think the older MV Agusta Corse is the best looking bike ever made and I was hoping they never changed the design for another 10 years. The older generation supersport MV F4 that came out in the late 90s still looks better than every new supersoprt bike today, and it set the standard of what a modern sportbike should look like.

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What do you mean the "older" F4? They're all the same design from 1998 when the bike was introduced. That pic I posted above is a 2000, it looks almost identical to the new ones. I agree, when it was introduced in the late 90s it was way ahead of the times. Best looking bike for a long time, no doubt.
 
MV's are rare and unique, yes.
If you require rare & unique, buy one (like buddy did).
But it's not really the right tool for the job, is it...?
Not in my world of potholes, streetcar tracks, curbs, taxis and 100 kmh speed limits.
But I guess you could just store the thing in Shannonville or Calabogie until you need it,
Regards
 
No more or less a 'tool for the job' than any other supersport.
 
I wasn't a fan of the new MVs at the show either. Looked almost identical to the design that's now well into a decade old. Not impressive at all. I used to love the look, but can't respect a high end european brand that doesn't take the initiative to keep up with the competition (Ducati and Aprillia). Not saying they need to change their iconic design, but they do need to properly update it. Look at Ducati, perfect example. With the exception of the 999, the 1098/1198 took on cues from the original 916, but with a modern up-to-date take. 1199, exact same deal - a beautiful design balance taking cues from their iconic 916 design, with a fresh take on what a modern superbike should look like. MV? Not even close. If at first glance of a 2012 superbike, you're unable to distinguish whether it was made today or over 10 years ago, there's something wrong. Especially for the price they're asking. Lame.

Bash away.
 
mmmnaked said:
Yeah its a 14 year old design. Ive been looking at that bike for more than a decade!

You guys are drooling over their rarity but they've been selling in the states for a long time. Ive been seeing them for years and years. Its not as special as it used to be.

The 1099 absolutely blows this thing out of the water in all aspects.
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Yes they are available in the states but not available in Canada until last year.. By the way I did live in California and would have brought one back. Remember people choose their bike based what they like. For me having the latest technology does not matter unless you are racing competitively ( racing on the Highway does not count).
 
No reason to get all bashful. I don't want an MV for the reasons I've already stated. It's flattering that my opinion matters to you so much though. ;)
 
I can't wait to see the 2012 Isle Man tt, and you know why? The MV-Agusta is back to compete with the F4RR the 1000cc class and the 675 F3 (600cc) class.
 
mmmnaked said:
What do you mean the "older" F4? They're all the same design from 1998 when the bike was introduced. That pic I posted above is a 2000, it looks almost identical to the new ones. I agree, when it was introduced in the late 90s it was way ahead of the times. Best looking bike for a long time, no doubt.
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Tells how much you know about MV while the body may look the same there but they are not there has been changes to engine going from a 750 cc to 1100cc now a 1000cc with different fuel map, traction control to start.
 
Dahulk said:
Tells how much you know about MV while the body may look the same there but they are not there has been changes to engine going from a 750 cc to 1100cc now a 1000cc with different fuel map, traction control to start.
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You might notice my posts concern the styling of the bike, which is essentially unchanged from Tamburini's original design 14 years ago. I said nothing of the engines or what's under the body work. Obviously there have been massive changes under the skin over the years, but the outer shell hasn't changed.

Niche/exotic car and bike manufacturers remain exotic for innovative designs. It seems to me that MV Agusta are not confident in their ability to redesign their flagship motorcycle, so they're keeping Tamburini's design for as long as they can milk it.
 
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mmmnaked said:
What pedigree? When is the last time MV won anything international? They don't race their bikes. They haven't raced their bikes seriously in over 30 years. Also, I've been reading tests and comparisons of the MV F4RR and it's definitely not top dog for power. MCN has a video on YouTube pitting it against the BMW and Kawi, and it comes in last.

I still like the bike despite the aged design, but it's definitely outclassed in all manners by Ducati and Aprilia. And to me it has lost most if it's previous appeal, partly because it's now being imported to Canada, and partly because the design simply doesn't stack up against the competition.
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if you judge a bike based upon Horsepower and if the company race or not I am not sure if that is a proper way to judge a motorcycle mfg While it is true that Ferrari and Ducati did start out racing that no longer holds true. Look at Kawasaki they are leaving Motogp. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/4206887/Kawasaki-pull-out-of-MotoGP.html
 
I was responding to Shaman's post where he implied that MV has pedigree which Aprilia and Ducati don't. I say it's the total opposite.
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