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Going to a shelter or food bank is demeaning. I'd rather be a thief. Sarcasm font.
For you and many of us yes. For others it’s just another way to ‘get theirs’ and save some cash.

I’m all for properly vetting food bank recipients and blocking abuse by the system.
 
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Forgot to chime in earlier.

Not sure if this makes you feel any better about our cities but here in Milton desperate people are raising the bar.

My buddy who runs a body shop just had someone steal fuel out of his cars at night. Guy pulled up in a rented U-Haul van and drilled a hole in 2 gas tanks of parked cars to in the parking lot. Watched the whole thing on video, took about 20 min.
The F150 only had about $30 of gas in it. Not sure about the other car.

Now my buddy is on the hook for a gas tank replacement. New F150 tank is approx $1300
Catalytic converters ditto
 
Catalytic converters ditto
He had a few of those ripped off as well.

Same with his neighbor across the parking lot. From Ford Econoline vans. They had 2 on each van.
 
He had a few of those ripped off as well.

Same with his neighbor across the parking lot. From Ford Econoline vans. They had 2 on each van.
A few years ago they hit a school bus depot in Barrie. Easy access under tall vehicles. It was a problem in the morning as there were a ton of busses out of service. Getting more than a dozen oem cats was a lead time of months as replacement cats are rarely required so they didn't exist in the supply chain. A local exhaust shop welded in generic cats to get them out on the road the next morning. I have no idea about the legality of alternate emissions control devices on heavy duty vehicles. From a practical perspective, it seemed like a good solution.
 
A few years ago they hit a school bus depot in Barrie. Easy access under tall vehicles. It was a problem in the morning as there were a ton of busses out of service. Getting more than a dozen oem cats was a lead time of months as replacement cats are rarely required so they didn't exist in the supply chain. A local exhaust shop welded in generic cats to get them out on the road the next morning. I have no idea about the legality of alternate emissions control devices on heavy duty vehicles. From a practical perspective, it seemed like a good solution.
Great outside the box thinking.
I am sure some calls were made make this fly. Or at least number on speed dial with cash in hand to keep everyone quiet.
 
We've had cat thefts too on our service vans ... a generic cat from Magnaflow or similar was done and saved us a ton of $.
 
We've had cat thefts too on our service vans ... a generic cat from Magnaflow or similar was done and saved us a ton of $.
cat thieves are the worst
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Catalytic converters ditto

Had dinner last night , one of the guests family run a metal recycling place . They will not take catalytic converters period . Several in thier industry won’t touch any that aren’t at least 5 yrs old . But like any business , look long enough and you’ll find kindred spirits .


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Had dinner last night , one of the guests family run a metal recycling place . They will not take catalytic converters period . Several in thier industry won’t touch any that aren’t at least 5 yrs old . But like any business , look long enough and you’ll find kindred spirits .


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That is where the control should be. Parts of the US require a mechanics license and/or receipt from a replacement to scrap a cat. The bar here is far too low and many yards are willing to take the risk as it is so profitable and very little risk of consequences. If a guy comes in with a shopping cart of cats every morning, you know what happened. Give him $20 each and you both made out well. The losers are the ones that got their stuff stolen. Neither party that won gives a crap about them or the law.
 
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I was told that a scrap yard somewhere in the Hamilton/Stoney Creek area accept catalytic converts via a vending machine only. However, the machines takes your drivers license as well as your fingerprints. Gives you a voucher that you can then trade in for cash.
 
Forgot to chime in earlier.

Not sure if this makes you feel any better about our cities but here in Milton desperate people are raising the bar.

My buddy who runs a body shop just had someone steal fuel out of his cars at night. Guy pulled up in a rented U-Haul van and drilled a hole in 2 gas tanks of parked cars to in the parking lot. Watched the whole thing on video, took about 20 min.
The F150 only had about $30 of gas in it. Not sure about the other car.

Now my buddy is on the hook for a gas tank replacement. New F150 tank is approx $1300
Some ********* knifed the gas tank on one of our work trucks. Two weeks ago they stole the plates. In Guelph

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I was told that a scrap yard somewhere in the Hamilton/Stoney Creek area accept catalytic converts via a vending machine only. However, the machines takes your drivers license as well as your fingerprints. Gives you a voucher that you can then trade in for cash.

Sounds like Wentworth Metal Recycling in Hamilton. They have been using the machines for 15ish years now.
 
In each of the theft cases at my buddies shop, everything was caught on video surveillance. Submitted to the cops.
They never get back to you if the video helped with the investigation.

I wonder how hard they really try to nab these guys.
 
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In each of the theft cases at my buddies shop, everything was caught on video surveillance. Submitted to the cops.
They never get back to you if the video helped with the investigation.

I wonder how hard they really try to nab these guys.
Property crime seems to be below the lowest priority. If they happen to trip over the bad guys, they will dig through their files to inflate the amount they have recovered to sound like they are doing something and have made a big dent in crime.
 
Local dealer has also had their fair share of crime on their property with new and customers vehicles.

They are now hiring night security to sit in the parking lot at $400/night.
 
If you are really concerned about losing your catalytic, not a bad idea
This is a bad idea. By definition, the thieves have metal cutting devices with them. You can still access from front or rear. Putting the split in the center makes it trivial to lean back on the fence and the two pieces will swing open like gates. Maybe, if you're lucky, they thieves are extra dumb or lazy and pick your neighbour instead but if they have half a brain, this is nothing. It also takes time and effort to setup every time you park. A far better implementation would a similar idea left permanently in your driveway (the most likely place to get hit). That can block three sides and can not be pulled apart by hand as the sides are not collapsible. You still have the problems of one open side and thieves with metal cutting devices. The open side could be dealt with by a locking swing gate (almost 100% chance you will drive into it and crush it though given enough time).

If you want to do something, the best I have seen so far is a heat resistant wire over the top of the cat. Not really visible from below and wire gets cut when they cut the pipes. Cutting that wire connects a car horn (easiest would be dropping a relay but there are other ways to accomplish the task). That both draws a lot of attention and makes it a very unpleasant place to continue working. You still need a repair but probably didn't lose any pieces. Some downsides are upfront cost and it's not trivial to avoid power drain from this type of system. On a vehicle driven daily, power is probably not an issue. If I drove a truck and parked outside at night, I might consider something. I try to drive lower vehicles that make access annoying (not too many thieves bring a jack on their exploits).
 
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This is a bad idea. By definition, the thieves have metal cutting devices with them. You can still access from front or rear. Putting the split in the center makes it trivial to lean back on the fence and the two pieces will swing open like gates. Maybe, if you're lucky, they thieves are extra dumb or lazy and pick your neighbour instead but if they have half a brain, this is nothing. It also takes time and effort to setup every time you park. A far better implementation would a similar idea left permanently in your driveway (the most likely place to get hit). That can block three sides and can not be pulled apart by hand as the sides are not collapsible. You still have the problems of one open side and thieves with metal cutting devices. The open side could be dealt with by a locking swing gate (almost 100% change you will drive into it and crush it though given enough time).

If you want to do something, the best I have seen so far is a heat resistant wire over the top of the cat. Not really visible from below and wire gets cut when they cut the pipes. Cutting that wire connects a car horn (easiest would be dropping a relay but there are other ways to accomplish the task). That both draws a lot of attention and makes it a very unpleasant place to continue working. You still need a repair but probably didn't lose any pieces. Some downsides are upfront cost and it's not trivial to avoid power drain from this type of system. On a vehicle driven daily, power is probably not an issue. If I drove a truck and parked outside at night, I might consider something. I try to drive lower vehicles that make access annoying (not too many thieves bring a jack on their exploits).
The car automatically spraying the thieves with fuel might be a decent deterrent. They might think twice about powering up a device that creates sparks.
 
The car automatically spraying the thieves with fuel might be a decent deterrent. They might think twice about powering up a device that creates sparks.
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