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Yeah those prices are insane.... Especially if he keeps asking for more money but hasnt actually dont anything yet... I bet hes spending your money on the side, either he has creditors after him or hes got drug or gambling problems... Because when you give someone 19k dollars, you'd expect some of the work to get done... Otherwise where did that money go?? Probably right up his nose, unfortunately.
 
GTAM unite? Black Bikes, all black dress code, go at night and take care of business for one of our fellow members and riders?

It's about time we take matter into our own hands, who's in?
 
I own a bodyshop and we strip down and entire car to nothing repair, paint, polish and re assemble for $3500
a bike paintjob (no matter what color) should NEVER be more then $1200 , we do 3 color paint jobs on bikes for around $6-$800
that shop has taken you and you need to get a lawyer. hopefully everything is on the books.
heres some advice alot of people dont know about....pay with visa, if your not happy, and have proof they ripped you off they will TAKE your money back for you.
(even going out for dinner !)
call me at the shop anytime and ill help you out ! 289 296 4882 TJ
 
your bf sound like a jerk for not helping you out enough.... flame me at least thats what i get out of this post
 
xyz999 said:
your bf sound like a jerk for not helping you out enough.... flame me at least thats what i get out of this post
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Banger: My boyfriend at the time

I'm guessing the boyfriend is no longer in the picture.
 
Thanks everyone for the sympathy and great advice. The support has been a wonderful lift.
Yes, boyfriend is out of the picture.
I am still up in the air about finishing the bike. It's already in pieces. I'm thinking I may just saw screw it still and try again with a newer bike at a slower pace. (Not that a year was fast but do the mods one at a time rather than a big build)
Can I tell the guy to return all the parts?
We never set up the invoice unfortunately. I took his word. Yup, that's on me. I know.
Not sure if I want to mention the shop still. I try not to burn people on personal grudges.
 
Banger said:
Can I tell the guy to return all the parts?
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If you haven't paid for them I would just leave them with him and let him deal with it.
I think he's caused you enough problems already.

But if you did pay for them already, I don't think he'll want to process a return. :(
 
Banger said:
Thanks everyone for the sympathy and great advice. The support has been a wonderful lift.
Yes, boyfriend is out of the picture.
I am still up in the air about finishing the bike. It's already in pieces. I'm thinking I may just saw screw it still and try again with a newer bike at a slower pace. (Not that a year was fast but do the mods one at a time rather than a big build)
Can I tell the guy to return all the parts?
We never set up the invoice unfortunately. I took his word. Yup, that's on me. I know.
Not sure if I want to mention the shop still. I try not to burn people on personal grudges.
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I don't think it's a personal grudge at this point. He not only didn't live up to his word, but in turn has royally screwed you over.
Of course you can tell him to return all the parts. They're YOUR parts.

I say get everything back, regroup, and go from there.
 
Banger said:
Thanks everyone for the sympathy and great advice. The support has been a wonderful lift.
Yes, boyfriend is out of the picture.
I am still up in the air about finishing the bike. It's already in pieces. I'm thinking I may just saw screw it still and try again with a newer bike at a slower pace. (Not that a year was fast but do the mods one at a time rather than a big build)
Can I tell the guy to return all the parts?
We never set up the invoice unfortunately. I took his word. Yup, that's on me. I know.
Not sure if I want to mention the shop still. I try not to burn people on personal grudges.
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Get your stuff back before you mention the name. Once you have your stuff back, there is nothing he can do to screw you over more.
 
Can you post the name of the shop so we can avoid?

I've been screwed a few times too. The lesson is to get everything in writing and maybe get references from other customers, if you can.
 
Go there with a couple of ****** off looking guy friends, walk right in, walk out with your stuff and maybe some of his tools. Then get him to sign a written receipt to show what you need to cover your *** against his stupidity.

I had a similar scenario and this worked for me. Amazing how the threat of accountability can cure the problem.

Who is this guy?
 
There are always 2 sides to every story...
Some of the numbers thrown out here are leading me to think that something is a askew with this story.

Who the hell recommended this shop? Someone with more money than brains?
I was recommended to a shop that did all the customizing for a a project such as this.
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And this???
January rolls through and we are waiting on parts that were never ordered to begin with. He tells me how its crunch time so if I can find some one to polish and paint the bike, it may help us with time. Fine, within 24 hours I have a shop willing to do it in time for the show so long as I get them all the pieces. Same guys who painted my dad's car.

I pick up the pieces and take them to to the body shop who are appalled with the condition of it all. Plastics could not be saved and with 1 month before the show now I am frantically looking for fairings. I come across a set of 04-06 and pick them up. Perfect. One thing goes right.

We set a budget of $2500 to do the work. The very same price quote Danny gave me to do all the body work. I get a quote from the shop saying it's much worse then we expected. The body work alone will be nearly $6500.00
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If I read this right, you have busted fairings, so you source some good ones. You then bring the good fairings to a body shop, the same body shop that painted your dads car, and this shop quotes you $6500 to paint your good fairings? - so you reduce your want list to make the job cheaper and still say YES to the guy who quotes $6,500.00


But then
Bike still has no exhaust, no paint, not so great engine and a lot of after market parts that really do nothing for it. It's cost me 12G so far and I still have more things to do.
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The fairings are still no painted?

Where did the $12K go?
Did the Body shop stiff you as well?
This is VERY confusing.
 
Banger said:
Thanks everyone for the sympathy and great advice. The support has been a wonderful lift.
Yes, boyfriend is out of the picture.
I am still up in the air about finishing the bike. It's already in pieces. I'm thinking I may just saw screw it still and try again with a newer bike at a slower pace. (Not that a year was fast but do the mods one at a time rather than a big build)
Can I tell the guy to return all the parts?
We never set up the invoice unfortunately. I took his word. Yup, that's on me. I know.
Not sure if I want to mention the shop still. I try not to burn people on personal grudges.
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WOW that is quite a story Banger. Here is my opinion:

You dun goofed up. Seems as though you trusted the shop without getting too many other quotes from other shops? If I was going to spend 10K+ on anything (who am I kidding more like 2K+) I will shop around and basically tender the job out.

I am a little bit surprised why you didn't post on here asking for these services? for the 12K you are already deep into it you could have bought a newer R1 for lets say 8K on this side of the border and like 5K from the USA. Spend another 1K on whatever paint you wanted. A stock newer R1 motor will probably make more HP than your 01 ever could without spending 12K on it. Spend another 1K on all the chrome/polish you could ever want. Maybe 4K on full titanium exhaust, power commander, and aftermarket wheels. Depending on if you go with all new stuff or used you can do this under 4K easily. So bike from US 5K + 4K parts + 1K paint + 1K chrome= 11K so far.
That's how far you could have been with your money spent and I would say these numbers are somewhat conservative.

I recently sold my PC3, Woodcraft rearsets, CRG levers, and Full Akrapovic exhaust to a friend for I think $1200-1300. You can do this stuff well within your budget. I would suggest if in doubt about something ask on the forum. Doesn't seem like you are very shy asking about other things on here.

I would suggest you seriously think about what you want from your motorcycle. If I was in your shoes I would part out that R1 and try to recoup as much $$$ as possible. That motor is already 10 years old and further more I am not sure how it was fitted in a 2003 frame as they had a different fuel injected engine. If you really want a good performing bike I would recommend something newer than the 98-01 R1 since the newer litre bikes are better by leaps and bounds. I am partial to the ZX10, but even the Newer R1s a very very fast. If I was you I would cruise the WERA forums for a newer R1. Sell off all the parts that won't work for the newer model you will buy and then keep the parts that will swap over (IE that 04-06 bodywork would be great if you used that). It might take some time to part it out but you always make more money in pieces than you do for the whole bike. Especially a bike that isn't all together and presentable. Just to prove my point you may have seen a certain motorcycle wrecker in Ontario buying bikes BRAND NEW and parting them out. He was obviously making money on them, but this applies even for brand new bikes. The sum of the individual parts is worth more than the whole even on something mint right out of the crate.
 
Make him finish the project. He agreed to do it and fleeced you.

He expects you to just go away.

Don't.
 
D23 said:
If you have in writing or email proof of an agreement between you and the builder that you decided on all the work for $10000 then he has to deliver exactly what he promised and can only gouge you 10%.

I think that's fact.
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Actually, you're absolutely right here. Recently, took a car in for warranty work to a stealership and right in their work order (a separate paragraph, which was highlighted as well) they quote the law (and include the main section/sub-sections from the actual Act) that states that costs cannot be more than 10% above initial estimate, and must be provided in writing.

If I were the OP, I'd stab the shop in the face with this (not sure if in fact you need the written estimate to scare the bejesus outta those crooks, but of course if you do go to court you will no doubt need it).
 
CrazyKell said:
I don't think it's a personal grudge at this point. He not only didn't live up to his word, but in turn has royally screwed you over.
Of course you can tell him to return all the parts. They're YOUR parts.

I say get everything back, regroup, and go from there.
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This is not a proper way to do business from the shop's point of view. The guy should always put his customers in priority. What did he mean by "i was in Daytona bike week for a week"??!? WTF kinda business attitude is that??

I'd say screw that bag of sh*t, tell us which shop he's from!
 
There's no harm in posting the shop that's doing it.

With a very simple search, I found the name as you have mentioned it on here in the past.
 
Do not claim through your credit card it will affect your credit. Hopefully you have a paper trail, just take this to court.
 
Please post the shop. Or at lease PM me and I'll respect your silence. I have a hunch who it might be, but I want to avoid this guy as well.

And doing a chargeback through your CC should not affect your credit rating.
 
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