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My 2nd TD and 1st ever crash

stormcat

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I'm not sure if I should put this in the TD section, or the crash section. ;)

I got an invite from my buddy, J, to a private TD event going on at TMP for Thursday during the day.

Since I didn't have a job on the go and a friend offered to pay for this as my Birthday present, I decided to jump on it. I've only ridden Calabogie before, so this was my second TD ever. Well, my 1st real TD since at Calabogie I did the ARC1 and CRG1, which was highly controlled. Anyway, I designated the day as a day to work on my body positioning, although it didn't work out that way for me! It's also my fifth summer riding, and Cayuga helped me succeed in achieving my first ever crash. :D

The day started out poorly. We were 3/4 of the way to the track when I realized that I had left my BP at home with my street jacket. I was really beating myself up over that oversight. I never ride without it. Ever. Then my friend dropped my bike pulling it out of the van. But surprisingly, that didn't bother me much. He scuffed the left side fairing a tiny bit and I was like, meh, whatever. I can touch that up. And luckily, one of the fast women with a super moto had brought an extra BP and let me borrow it. :) She wouldn't even let me buy her lunch as a thank you.

My and J's bikes in our pit. I decided to tape up cat eyes on my bike this time to make for silly TD pics :) :

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I didn't get very far into my first lap when everything went pear-shaped. I don't even know how or what happened. I was following J and when we got to T6 I went down. Lowside. My first ever. It was my cold lap and I was being careful to be, well, careful. When I came up to T6 I remember thinking, "that's tighter than I thought" followed by "you have more than enough lean to get through it." As I scooped down the bike just went. I just recall thinking, "ow" as my hip hit down, and "bikey, why are you over there?" as I listened to the horrid sound of SSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! plastics and sliders sliding across asphalt. After sliding the 20' across the asphalt, it planted itself about 7' in the grass. I jumped up as fast as I could and got the heck off the track. All of this went down in a matter of 3 seconds. But I can recall it all in slow motion. Very surreal feeling. I'm assuming this was caused by cold tires and cold asphalt. Since no one saw it, I don't have anyone to tell me what they saw.

As soon as I saw broken white metal at the clipon and the dangling clutch lever, I assumed my day was over. I also could not, for the life of me, pick the bike up. I tried three different approaches several times, but every time I'd get the thing about halfway up, it would slide in the wet grass and I'd lose grip again. So I managed to cause the first red flag of the day, and had to wait for the corner workers to come out and gather me and the bike up. Two of them struggled to right it, btw. I gave a queens wave to the spectators as we drove by back to the pits. :D

Back in the pits we looked at the damages. All three sliders (bar end, frame and swingarm) did their job. Which is to facilitate a nice, clean slide and keep bits from catching and snapping off, or the entire kit and kaboodle catching and flipping. The "unbreakable" ASV lever was also true to its claim and instead of snapping, it snapped the clutch lever perch instead. Better than the clipon like I originally thought! So cosmetic bits aside, the only damaged part of actual importance was that perch.

Some pics:

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The guy running the Turn2 mobile shop was on the bike in seconds and back in the shop finding me something to replace the perch with. He came out with a universal perch/cluch lever and the boys set to work immediately. They just did it. I literally went off to the washrooms and when I got back, they were already hard at work! How amazing is that?! And the Turn2 guy handed over the part before it was even paid for. Rider's generosity at the track (and street) with their time, energy and expertise amazes me. So J and my just met friend, K, sacrificed their own track time to make sure that I could get back out on the track myself. It's just incredible what riders will do for each other. What an amazing bunch of people!

Yeah, that's me with my leathers half down under the canopy on my cell phone while J and K work on my bike. I'm probably texting someone:

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For $90 I ended up with a super short, two-finger clutch lever and I was ready to get back out there. Albeit very nervous, anxious and shaky. Gahhhhhhhh!!!

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J followed me around for the first tenuous, scary lap to try and bring my fear level down a notch. I struggled through every corner after that. I thought I was over-braking for corners at Calabogie? HA! I was almost stopping the bike, getting off and walking the thing through every single turn at Cayuga. I wasn't smooth at all, and I was having an even more difficult time getting off the bike and looking all the way through the turns. It's really difficult to just turn that 'switch' off in your brain after a crash. That survival switch that keeps telling you to just stop the bike. Park it now. But I persevered through each and every slow, shaky lap just to say I did it. And I'll go back there, damn it! ;)

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As for how my gear held up and my injuries, my left hip was the immediate problem. It hurt right away and got more and more sore as the day went on. But my gear did its job ++. It kept my skin on for one thing, and aside from the hip area, took the impact. I didn't even realize I had slammed my shoulder into the ground. In the washroom I caught a glimpse of my shoulder in the mirror and was like, holy s**t! The metal shoulder plate is dented in, the surface of the leather is scrubbed right off in one place, and scraped all down the shoulder and underneath the elbow. No stitching damage, and the leathers are still perfectly fine for more use. The outside left leg is also scraped up, one slider, and the inside of the right knee is scraped and missing some surface bits.

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My left boot also hit in all the right places, scraping the toe slider, ankle slider and calf slider. My helmet ended up with a tiny scuff on one of the vent covers. Weird. The only pain I felt was my hip, but there's no armour in the hips so it makes sense. Today my neck and ribs are sore, but totally bearable. And I have a bruise on my left knee and ankle, but no pain. My hip is also much better, but swollen.

I'm pretty damn happy with my gear. :)


Finally, a little vid of a couple laps right after the crash. To anyone who was there on Thursday and reading this now, I'm sorry for holding you guys and gals up. That crash scared the b'jebus out of me! I ended up holding terrible lines after that, over-braking to the extreme, shifting far too slowly and mis-shifting. But at least I got back on the horse. It's going to take some time to feel like myself again. And if anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with this kind of thing and move forward, please share. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUH7I_8iM5I
 
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It's going to take some time to feel like myself again. And if anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with this kind of thing and move forward, please share. :)

You said it yourself, it's going to take some time, preferably seat-time.

Glad you are okay. I was very tentative the first time back at the track after my off. You just have to slowly rebuild your confidence by getting back out there.
 
that msr pro is a great lever, just don't adjust it at the perch and it will last a while.
 
You got back on and rode .. everyone crashes at one point.
Cayuga got me almost 2 years ago, possibly in the same corner. Ever since than i still can not find a good pace on that track ..

The first pic guy in the orange/black teknic suit, looks like my old suit .. lol ..
 
You got back on and rode .. everyone crashes at one point.
Cayuga got me almost 2 years ago, possibly in the same corner. Ever since than i still can not find a good pace on that track ..

I don't think anyone there was giving me a choice about getting back on the bike. I think if I resisted, they would have gotten together, pinned me down, and held an intervention. My brain was telling me to just pack it in. Everyone else was telling me I was getting back on the bike, no negotiation allowed! LOL

As for that turn, it's the decreasing radius left-hander right after that sweet S curve. It took out another rider right after my red flag was taken down, and then another in the afternoon. The little straightaway that leads up to it lulls you into a sense of security. When I went down on it, I think I was doing between 80-90 kph because I hit the throttle in that little straightaway. I was watching riders go through it when I was back on the track and everyone slowed down for it quite a bit (not nearly as slow as me, though!).
 
I, too, have crashed in the same place... have yet to ride TMP since then, but the most important thing is to get going again. Everyone reacts differently to crashes and recovers at a different rate. I know I'll be slow the next time I go through there, but I do know what I did wrong, and will get past it with time.

Just keep on riding and the confidence will come back... it may take time, but that is okay.

Hopefully you found someone to help with your suspension issues - if not, getting that addressed could help with your level of confidence.

And keep with the training and learning... the more you know...
 
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Every time I do a track day it takes me about 2/3 sessions out before I trust everything (tires, suspension, etc.), you'll usually see me fussing over every little detail after the first couple of times out... after that my brain is telling me everything is okay and things start to get faster, real quick!
My biggest suggestion to you is to make sure that your bike is set-up properly (good tires,tire pressures, suspension) pay to have a qualified person do it if your unsure of how to yourself... it's the best money you will have ever spent. Once you know that the bike is good to go you can concentrate on lines and riding position with confidence.
For every spill there is a reason for it happening... try to go over why and how the drop happened so that you can learn from it. If you fall off and don't think twice about why it happened, chances are it will happen again.


PS - if you can afford it buy a track specific bike, you can get some good deals on older ones. I tracked my road bike once and all I could think about was not dropping it.
 
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I haven't had the suspension dealt with yet. A guy next to us in the pits offered to help me out and set it up, but I didn't want to impose and take track time away from him. I think I'll set up an appointment with Suspension Jesus (Sherrard?) down at RC. I'm booked to go back to Calabogie in a few weeks, so this needs to be dealt with. New rubber may be in the cards as well. I'm on the wear bars on my front tire, although the rear is still great. And I have some lovely new CL brake pads to install that a friend bought for me for my Birthday. So there is work to be done!

I've already started tearing that side plastic off. The fairing brackets are tweaked from the slide, so all the plastics have shifted forward and the bolts ground down. The side cowl is pressing against the head cowl, which is pushing the air duct cover up, so it's popping out of the tank cowl.

Do you guys think I should replace the one Woodcraft frame slider? I'll just leave the bar end and swingarm sliders as is, I think.

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R1Guy, this is my street bike. I can't afford a track dedicated bike right now. Specifically, I can't afford a new street bike (I'm lusting after a Street Triple R), otherwise I'd just track dedicate the CBR. Maybe next summer I'll be able to afford a new street bike. For now, this is it.

And yes, it would be great to have someone in the know go over my bike and make sure it's track worthy. And maybe teach me in the process.

As for the cause of the crash, I just assume it was going into that corner too hot on cold tires. I know I was off the brakes already. I was positioned off the bike, and didn't chop the throttle. I remember seeing how tight the corner was and saying to myself, "you have more than enough lean to be able to get through it" as I swooped in. But it's hard to say for sure that I didn't touch the brake and tuck the front, you know? My hand and conscious brain seem to be completely disconnected. But the way it felt, like the bike just floated out from underneath me like a feather and was gone, tells me it just lost grip and slipped away. Nothing jerky about it. Smooth like butter... it was gone.
 
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Stormcat... get the suspension and tires changed right away! The only thing between you and the track surface is your tires, numero uno important.
Make sure... double sure you have the right tire pressures.

Your crash could have been caused by a number of things... eliminate as many things as you can from the equation for the next track day.
 
While you are at RC consider checking out their Dianese hip protectors. They are mesh shorts with low profile outer hard shell plastic and soft underpad for your hips and softer padding for your buttcheeks and tailbone (sort of like football pads) that fit easily under your leathers. They are about $70 but, in my opinion, well worth it for the increased protection and added confidence.
 
Hey

Glad to hear your ok, and kudos to you for getting back on even if slow and making yourself do it!!! I have to go back for my 2 nd trackday but I will say I went off in that same day on my first track day...never dumped just offroaded for a little haha...

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@R1Guy: I know, I know. What I was riding on is the same level of stupidity that I have flamed other riders for. I always find it easier to worry about others rather than worry about myself.

@spookycat: that would have saved me the hard, hot swollen mass currently residing in my hip! The armour everywhere else certainly saved me injury.

@KawasakiGal: I off-roaded on T8 at Calabogie my first day. I just doubted myself for a millisecond and I was on the grass. Same thing, kept it upright and just got back on the track without incident.

@murf: there was no tech inspection. It did pass Turn2's tech inspection a few weeks prior though. I was worried they would flag it, but there's plenty of tread on the sides. The center got worn down from a bad fork seal job done at the dealership, and basically riding around an entire summer on 1 fork empty of oil, and the other half empty. Since I had only ever ridden the CBR with bad forks, I had no idea that it wasn't supposed to ride that badly. How would I know, right? :/
 
FWIW, I believe I have finally figured out what I did to cause my crash. It didn't make sense to me that my friend got through the corner without a problem when I did not, and how my bike ended up sliding tail first away from the corner. I wasn't on the throttle soon enough. I came up to the corner in that little straight and was braking pretty hard when I saw how tight the turn was. When I committed to the corner, I wasn't back on the throttle yet, so the rear was light, front was still loaded. There was no grip to make it. My buddy was fine because he committed to it sooner and got back on the throttle. I did not.

A very silly error indeed. But I'm glad I figured out what I did wrong.
 
I wish it would make sense to me .... so you low sided past the apex when exiting the corner? I don't think there's many people here who would crack the throttle open much sooner than that, but perhaps I am wrong.
 
It makes sense to me. If the front of the bike is loaded up and not the rear (not even maintenance throttle), then it makes sense it would slip out. Especially if it's during your cold lap.
 
That's great you figured out. I absolutely was scared of that corner the first lap in the Racer 5 intro to track day I did. By the end of the day it was my favorite corner(along with 9). I did however go off roading there. I scraped by peg and got scared and straighened out and looked at the grass. lol Was all good though.

Glad your ok:)
 
FWIW, I believe I have finally figured out what I did to cause my crash. It didn't make sense to me that my friend got through the corner without a problem when I did not, and how my bike ended up sliding tail first away from the corner. I wasn't on the throttle soon enough. I came up to the corner in that little straight and was braking pretty hard when I saw how tight the turn was. When I committed to the corner, I wasn't back on the throttle yet, so the rear was light, front was still loaded. There was no grip to make it. My buddy was fine because he committed to it sooner and got back on the throttle. I did not.

A very silly error indeed. But I'm glad I figured out what I did wrong.

I didn't see the crash but I don't think getting back on the throttle was your problem... If anything back on the throttle might have thrown the back end of your bike out.
If your going into that corner hard on the brakes and then threw your bike into the turn before the suspension was settled you probably just lowsided the entire bike and the back end came around making you think it slipped out first.... Your friends bike set-up and riding style is different then yours, it doesn't matter that she made it through and you didn't, its irrelevant.
 
I know I was definitely off the brakes before turning in.

I'll go back to obsessing endlessly about this now...
 
First off glad that you're ok...(((hugs))) I know it plays with the mind alot after a crash. been there.
Second. Very proud of you for finishing up the laps, shaky or slow or what have you, it doesn't matter the point is....you did it..you conquered it!

Thirdly. great write up!!! especially for us gals thinking of doing a track day. I have not done one yet and I would love to try it one day.

Its a learning experience and we learn from out mistakes.

Good luck!
 

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