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MTO survey is up for 400 series increased speed limits
- Thread starter DJM
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CriticalCore
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Next up Autobahn -
I guess everyone will be getting away with 125 mph now....funny thing when I'm out of town on the 401 every body is going 115 - 120.....as soon as you get close to the gta...everyone speeds up in the congestion...I always go by the rule...less traffic higher speeds....moving in the packed gta ...slow the **** down...
They are trying to determine if increasing the speed limit is safe or not.
I get that part, but 110 is probably a statistically insignificant increase. I would wager that the 85th percentile speed is already higher than that (especially in the areas chosen for the study). People drive the 85th percentile speed, not the speed on a sign, so nothing has changed.
We dont need a 2 year pilot project to tell us that it is safe. Almost no one goes under 110kph anyway.
Look at where they picked. Wide open, lightly travelled roadways. I think they looked for the answer they wanted (ie. speed limit increase has no negative effect) and designed a trial to achieve that result. Just before the next election, they release the results and say since 110 did nothing, if re-elected, all 400 series will be 120.
You are correct. Im sure the MTO already knows this but hey.. they will get money to do the studies etc etc SO lets pretend 110 is a big deal.
The speed limit of 100kph has been around for decades, from a time when cars were heavy and had front drum brakes.
The current 100kph limit is nothing more than a revenue generating tool.
The vast majority of drivers drive at a speed they are comfortable with, which from my experience is 110 to 130 kph.
People who do not merge onto our highways properly are far more of a danger than someone doing even 150kph.
People who sit in the left lane doing 100kph are more of a danger than anything else.
The limits should be 120kph on the 401, except between the 427 and 404 where it should be 100 because of the high volume
404 should be 90 northbound until the 401, after which it should be 110
The 407 is one of the most modern highways in the world and relatively low volume. Its straight and wide. I use it almost everyday and the average car does about 120-130kph. Its limit should be raised to 130
Raise limits like this and allow a 10kph buffer zone, after which strict enforcement and high fines result.
A 110kph speed limit pilot is just a waste of time and money. Bureaucratic nonsense. 85% of people drive above 110kph every time they use the 400 series
The current 100kph limit is nothing more than a revenue generating tool.
The vast majority of drivers drive at a speed they are comfortable with, which from my experience is 110 to 130 kph.
People who do not merge onto our highways properly are far more of a danger than someone doing even 150kph.
People who sit in the left lane doing 100kph are more of a danger than anything else.
The limits should be 120kph on the 401, except between the 427 and 404 where it should be 100 because of the high volume
404 should be 90 northbound until the 401, after which it should be 110
The 407 is one of the most modern highways in the world and relatively low volume. Its straight and wide. I use it almost everyday and the average car does about 120-130kph. Its limit should be raised to 130
Raise limits like this and allow a 10kph buffer zone, after which strict enforcement and high fines result.
A 110kph speed limit pilot is just a waste of time and money. Bureaucratic nonsense. 85% of people drive above 110kph every time they use the 400 series
I can understand the rationale for having only a small increase (to something still below the normal traffic speed). It's more palatable to the sky-is-falling speed-kills crowd. With a bit of luck and maybe a bit of planning, nothing bad will happen, actual average traffic speed won't change much, traffic flow might even improve, and the higher limits will be extended to other areas. I don't plan to drive any differently.
Mad Mike
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An increase in speed will easy congestion so long as it's not offset by an increase in accidents. Increasing speed should go hand in hand with education and increasing enforcement for lane selection (and I mean relative to the speed of traffic, not relative to the speed limit) and other dangerous driving behaviours. I'd bet having a speedlimit of 140 on road sections suited to that speed would have negligible impact on fatalities if we could improve driver behaviors.
Think Autobahn.
Think Autobahn.
Mad Mike
Well-known member
Noooooo.
The stunt driving option is martial law -- I don't want a simpleton cop to be judge and jury with no option to appeal. A friend is in this mess right now, it's amazing how many prosecutors kick the charges down because they can't be convinced the drivers were just speeding.
If an OPP officer is having bad day, he can up a speeding charge to stunt driving. The driver will pay $2000-$3000 before they go to court for the roadside suspension/impound part, and in almost every case I have seen the prosecutors don't risk trial is the driver pleads down to speeding 49 over. There is no appeal, even if the case is dismissed the driver is on the hook for $2K.
If we ask for a 120kph limit we can't get greedy.
Was your friend actually doing 150 (or more)?
If it would change to 120km/hr then people would drive on average 20km/hr more. 140km/hr would be the average since we drive 120km/hr with 100km/hr speed limits making us the fastest drivers in the northern hemisphere.
I believe our highways are more than capable of this, but it's our system that is failing us. People dont know how to drive and are on the road, again driving is a privilege not a right.
I believe our highways are more than capable of this, but it's our system that is failing us. People dont know how to drive and are on the road, again driving is a privilege not a right.
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