OK ... maybe he's not the worst, but the point is some other rider's with his access to money would do much better, in my opinion.
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OK ... maybe he's not the worst, but the point is some other rider's with his access to money would do much better, in my opinion.
lator-illa
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Yes ... lots of personal money or backing and a lot of talent. I thought someone was indicating that money or backing is enough to which I meant to say it is not, you have to come through the lower tier classes and actually win something. I don't remember Karel winning anything at all .... so I thought he's a good proof how it will not work.
In another words, these days you probably have to ride BSB, Spanish or Italian Championship to start and get noticed. Unless you are born in one of those countries, it means moving there and living there ... Look up Stoner and how his whole family moved to Europe as one of the examples .... he would have no chance doing it with money from Australia alone.
I think the horse is now dead ... LOL
In another words, these days you probably have to ride BSB, Spanish or Italian Championship to start and get noticed. Unless you are born in one of those countries, it means moving there and living there ... Look up Stoner and how his whole family moved to Europe as one of the examples .... he would have no chance doing it with money from Australia alone.
I think the horse is now dead ... LOL
N3WMAN
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I get you are trying to say that it takes more than money to make it to GP racing. Yet, you keep using Karel as an example, even though he bought his way in.
To be fair Bradley Smith never even won a Moto2 race and he is on a better team than Karel is.
What I was trying to say originally is that there are lots of top level riders that can't make it in top level racing because of a lack of backing/funding. Tommy Hill won the BSB championship in 2011 and was without a ride in 2013. Meanwhile, guys like Aoyama who haven't performed well at all in recent memory keep getting rides in GP and WSBK.
To be fair Bradley Smith never even won a Moto2 race and he is on a better team than Karel is.
What I was trying to say originally is that there are lots of top level riders that can't make it in top level racing because of a lack of backing/funding. Tommy Hill won the BSB championship in 2011 and was without a ride in 2013. Meanwhile, guys like Aoyama who haven't performed well at all in recent memory keep getting rides in GP and WSBK.
lator-illa
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We can say the same thing for F1 as well.
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We've seen some very brief dominations at the top with Stoner & Lorenzo.
Last real dynasty was Rossi's reign. The new guy makes it look so effortless. I have a feeling we're seeing a new dynasty in the making.
Last real dynasty was Rossi's reign. The new guy makes it look so effortless. I have a feeling we're seeing a new dynasty in the making.
lator-illa
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In my opinion, Marquez is reminding me of Senna on two wheels. The only exception is Marc isn't caught up in the off-track politics Senna was (but I guess he doesn't have to).
I'd have to agree, I think Marquez will be dominating for quite some time with barely any effort.
I'd have to agree, I think Marquez will be dominating for quite some time with barely any effort.
ATTS
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Marquez - Just hangs out behind Lorenzo until he wants to pass and then does it and leaves him behind. I guess time will tell if anyone will be able to battle with him at all this year.
Pedrosa - Not a big fan as I find he doesn't have enough fight but he had a nice charge at the end for second
A. Espargaro - I haven't seen anyone else run to their bike after a crash as fast as he does, good for him to get 1 point still
Ianone - I used to love watching him in Moto2 and the way he rides, I am glad to see he is healthy so far this year and was fighting at the beginning before falling a bit off the top guys pace a little.
Pedrosa - Not a big fan as I find he doesn't have enough fight but he had a nice charge at the end for second
A. Espargaro - I haven't seen anyone else run to their bike after a crash as fast as he does, good for him to get 1 point still
Ianone - I used to love watching him in Moto2 and the way he rides, I am glad to see he is healthy so far this year and was fighting at the beginning before falling a bit off the top guys pace a little.
lator-illa
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I'm not a Lorenzo hater at all. In fact, he's probably one of my favourites in terms of his riding style and racecraft.
But that was hilarious! Him complaining about the red strap on his helmet and his gloves...LULZ
Ok So when he said Mosquitoes in my face he meant that he got mosquitoes smashed on his shield on the sighting lap, for some reason I thought he said he had mosquitoes flying around his face and that got him to do the false start, I take back my comments about that being an excuse, that makes a lot more sense.
SweetOnion
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That stuff with the red tab on the helmet is most definitely crazy!! hahaha, is he losing his mind or what???
Surely looks like .... after he celebrated his 3rd spot .... it felt like forced/planned behavior ... he jumped off the bike and immediately pumped fist to the camera. It just looked like staged happiness .... he's definitely not in his groove whatever the underlying reasons are. Too bad, MM needs someone to challenge him.
The other day I was thinking .... how would MM and JL do, if they switched bikes. I know hypothetical and all of that, but still would love to know how much the bike plays role in their particular case.
The other day I was thinking .... how would MM and JL do, if they switched bikes. I know hypothetical and all of that, but still would love to know how much the bike plays role in their particular case.
Taken from the MotoGP website:
And now Bridgestone will withdraw as official tyre supplier after their 1 year extension in Bridgestone entered the MotoGP
World Championship at the dawn of the modern four-stroke era in 2002, with the objective of establishing itself as the world leader in tyre development. The Japanese company’s rise to glory was characterised with quick-found success in the championship with a first pole position in its maiden year, a first podium in 2003 and a first race victory at the Brazilian Grand Prix in 2004.
From this point onward, Bridgestone’s success rapidly gained momentum with multiple victories in the 2005 and 2006 seasons, culminating in a first MotoGP championship title with Ducati’s Casey Stoner in 2007. A second MotoGP championship followed in 2008 with Yamaha’s Valentino Rossi, resulting in Bridgestone receiving the honour of being named the first ever Official Tyre Supplier to the series, thus achieving its objective of distinguishing itself as the world’s premier motorcycle tyre manufacturer.
A long and successful involvement in MotoGP, supported by significant investment, has given Bridgestone an edge over the competition through the transition of race-proven technologies from the circuit to the road. Motorcycle riders around the globe will benefit from Bridgestone’s long and successful involvement in MotoGP for many years to come.
Bridgestone expresses its deepest gratitude to the riders, teams, FIM, IRTA and Dorna, as well as motorsports fans around the world, for their support over the years. Although it is planning to exit the MotoGP World Championship at the end of the 2015 season, Bridgestone is doing its best to promote motorsport as part of its portfolio of activities.
Shu Ishibashi - Senior Vice President Chief Marketing Officer Responsible for Group Global Marketing, Bridgestone Corporation
"Since 2002 Bridgestone has invested large amounts of resources into MotoGP, to help us achieve the goal of becoming the world’s foremost tyre manufacturer. During this time we have forged a strong and successful partnership with Dorna and the teams, which culminated in our company being the first ever Official Tyre Supplier to the championship. MotoGP has proved to be an extremely valuable tyre development platform that has helped us introduce highly advanced technologies into our range of road tyres, to the benefit of consumers. The increase in our brand awareness since joining the series has also been an excellent outcome for us, and we are proud that we have been involved in a series that continues to grow in popularity year-on-year. While Bridgestone will withdraw from the MotoGP championship after 2015, we are considering other opportunities to maintain our position of as a key player for motorsports fans all around the world."
Kyota Futami – General Manager, Global Motorsport Department, Bridgestone Corporation
"It is with some sadness that we will make our exit from MotoGP after such a prosperous participation in the sport. Yet, having achieved everything we set out to do when we entered the championship over ten years ago, including sharing in many MotoGP World Championships, our company believes it is the right time to implement an exit strategy from the series. Over the next two seasons we will continue our world-class level of support to all the teams and riders, and will keep investing heavily in our MotoGP tyre development programme. We will continue to push the boundaries of motorcycle tyre development over the next two years to ensure that we leave the championship at the end of 2015 in the best way possible."
And now Bridgestone will withdraw as official tyre supplier after their 1 year extension in Bridgestone entered the MotoGP
World Championship at the dawn of the modern four-stroke era in 2002, with the objective of establishing itself as the world leader in tyre development. The Japanese company’s rise to glory was characterised with quick-found success in the championship with a first pole position in its maiden year, a first podium in 2003 and a first race victory at the Brazilian Grand Prix in 2004.From this point onward, Bridgestone’s success rapidly gained momentum with multiple victories in the 2005 and 2006 seasons, culminating in a first MotoGP
championship title with Ducati’s Casey Stoner in 2007. A second MotoGP championship followed in 2008 with Yamaha’s Valentino Rossi, resulting in Bridgestone receiving the honour of being named the first ever Official Tyre Supplier to the series, thus achieving its objective of distinguishing itself as the world’s premier motorcycle tyre manufacturer.A long and successful involvement in MotoGP
, supported by significant investment, has given Bridgestone an edge over the competition through the transition of race-proven technologies from the circuit to the road. Motorcycle riders around the globe will benefit from Bridgestone’s long and successful involvement in MotoGP for many years to come.Bridgestone expresses its deepest gratitude to the riders, teams, FIM, IRTA and Dorna, as well as motorsports fans around the world, for their support over the years. Although it is planning to exit the MotoGP World Championship at the end of the 2015 season, Bridgestone is doing its best to promote motorsport as part of its portfolio of activities.
Shu Ishibashi - Senior Vice President Chief Marketing Officer Responsible for Group Global Marketing, Bridgestone Corporation
"Since 2002 Bridgestone has invested large amounts of resources into MotoGP, to help us achieve the goal of becoming the world’s foremost tyre manufacturer. During this time we have forged a strong and successful partnership with Dorna and the teams, which culminated in our company being the first ever Official Tyre Supplier to the championship. MotoGP has proved to be an extremely valuable tyre development platform that has helped us introduce highly advanced technologies into our range of road tyres, to the benefit of consumers. The increase in our brand awareness since joining the series has also been an excellent outcome for us, and we are proud that we have been involved in a series that continues to grow in popularity year-on-year. While Bridgestone will withdraw from the MotoGP championship after 2015, we are considering other opportunities to maintain our position of as a key player for motorsports fans all around the world."
Kyota Futami – General Manager, Global Motorsport Department, Bridgestone Corporation
"It is with some sadness that we will make our exit from MotoGP after such a prosperous participation in the sport. Yet, having achieved everything we set out to do when we entered the championship over ten years ago, including sharing in many MotoGP World Championships, our company believes it is the right time to implement an exit strategy from the series. Over the next two seasons we will continue our world-class level of support to all the teams and riders, and will keep investing heavily in our MotoGP tyre development programme. We will continue to push the boundaries of motorcycle tyre development over the next two years to ensure that we leave the championship at the end of 2015 in the best way possible."
In other words: "Way too expensive to be getting our name dragged through the gravel traps every other weekend..."
lol - then he said in spanish "FUC*, I told you yesterday and you forgot, write it down so you don't forget again"
