MotoGP 2014

ZX600 said:
yea I was laughing when i saw the interview, at least he didn't blame it on his team or on MM - You are right, he should just have said I f**up

Nothing to do with Mosquitos, he is completely out of his game because he can't get the bike to work and he is panicking, he tried to get ahead from the start as he always does but this time he has the pressure of knowing he is that much slower so really had to get a good head start.... which he did :)
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Mosquitos? Lorenzo should retire and write childrens books with an imagination like that

N3WMAN said:
I was more suprised that a duck finished on the podium and Rossi fell back to 8th. His tire must have gone off or something because one minute he was passing Ianonne and the next get double passed by tech 3 bikes like they were almost going to run into him.
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Rossi said after 8 laps his front tire was done
 
Very boring race to watch.

Cheering Rossi on until he feel back. At 1 point they announced over the PA that Rossi was down.

Only other interesting part was to see how far Lorenzo would cut back through the field.

Bugs? There were bugs in the morning but none by that time of day. Was more chance of raindrops.

Moto3 and Moto2 were far more interesting races to watch.

I had predicted MM to win or to bin it in T12.

People who say T2 at CTMP is unique....T2 at COTA is close to being a reversed sister.
 
Lightcycle said:
I think those new open regulations are paying off for the "factory" Ducatis. Very impressed with the Pramac and Iannone to have stayed in the hunt for so long with the old factory setup.
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No doubt more fuel and softer tires are helping. Still surprising considering how crap it was last season. That unibrow must be helping a little bit.

I was bummed for Aleix. Looked like Lorenzo's premature start knocked his concentration and he got a terrible start because of it.
 
I guess the mosquitoes got to rossi's tire after they were done with distracting lorenzo....poor yamaha cant catch a break
 
As a noob to the whole racing side... can anyone explain what would have caused the tire to do that?? Air pressure perhaps? :dontknow:
 
Roomie said:
As a noob to the whole racing side... can anyone explain what would have caused the tire to do that?? Air pressure perhaps? :dontknow:
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There are a ton of factors... even the actual track surface can play a part, combined with the bike settings of course.

The most notable example in recent history was in F1, at Indianapolis. The surface of the track was literally too much for Michelin cars to even run. Only Bridgestone cars ran... 6 cars started the race, if you can believe that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_United_States_Grand_Prix

Obviously other people didn't have the same problem as Rossi did... but Bridgestone did bring last year's tires, due to the surface... so one can only speculate
 
redridernl said:
Plenty of others did actually.





They brought the 2013 tires because of a production issue.
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I have a hard time believing that.

Nobody he normally is racing against. Iannone did but the tech3's and Bautista walked away from him.
 
It has been a bad start to the year so far for Yamaha, and Lorenzo in particular, I'm quite dissapointed as at the end of last season he was riding probably the best he's ever ridden, and it's a real shame he wasn't able to carry that over to this season yet. I really think that crash at Qatar really messed with his head, and I'm sure that contributed more to his jump start than any mosquitos did.

Also I feel really bad for Rossi, he was charging up to the front before he cooked his tire; whether he could have caught the hondas is a different matter, but I wouldn't have counted him out.
 
SweetOnion said:
I have a hard time believing that.

Nobody he normally is racing against. Iannone did but the tech3's and Bautista walked away from him.
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You don't have to believe it but I'm sure the source knows more than you or I.

"The problem was simply one of tires. Not, as many had feared, the rear tire, but instead the harder of the two front options. Most riders suffered severe wear on the front tire, making it harder and harder to manage the bike. Valentino Rossi was one of the more serious victims, with Colin Edwards also in a bad shape. Andrea Iannone had similar problems, while for Stefan Bradl, it meant he had no chance of attempting to attack Dovizioso. Pol Espargaro, after a strong start to the race, ran into the same trouble and had to let his teammate Bradley Smith go."

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/04/14/2014_austin_motogp_sunday_round_up_of_cr.html
 
redridernl said:
You don't have to believe it but I'm sure the source knows more than you or I.

"The problem was simply one of tires. Not, as many had feared, the rear tire, but instead the harder of the two front options. Most riders suffered severe wear on the front tire, making it harder and harder to manage the bike. Valentino Rossi was one of the more serious victims, with Colin Edwards also in a bad shape. Andrea Iannone had similar problems, while for Stefan Bradl, it meant he had no chance of attempting to attack Dovizioso. Pol Espargaro, after a strong start to the race, ran into the same trouble and had to let his teammate Bradley Smith go."

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2014/04/14/2014_austin_motogp_sunday_round_up_of_cr.html
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Sorry for the confusion. Most of that I believe... I didn't see pics of other riders tires.. It makes sense re: Bradl especially. I will have to check out that site some more, they seem to have good coverage.

I am speaking more in regards to Bridgestone having production issues. How did they have tires for the first and 3rd races but not the 2nd prepared. Seems super odd.
 
SweetOnion said:
Sorry for the confusion. Most of that I believe... I didn't see pics of other riders tires.. It makes sense re: Bradl especially. I will have to check out that site some more, they seem to have good coverage.

I am speaking more in regards to Bridgestone having production issues. How did they have tires for the first and 3rd races but not the 2nd prepared. Seems super odd.
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Each track requires a specific compound according to the characteristics of the track. For example if a specific track has more left turns than right they have to bring an asymmetrical tire with harder rubber on the left side etc. This is just one of many things Bridgestone takes into consideration when preparing the "batch" for a specific round at a specific track.

Also temperature is a big factor, if a track is located in let's say Valencia "hot as hell" compared to let's say Japan etc the attributes of the tire are different.

Remember round 3 is in Argentina, a completely new track for Motogp this year, so they (bridgestone) have probably been preparing for it for a while (I assume)
 
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The tires aren't flown to the track. They send them on a ship weeks in advance. Whatever the issue was, they didn't have them ready in time to ship.

Also, ZX600 is right. The tires are made specifically for each track and usually, that compound/construction is never used again.
 
I think it's known that the M1 requires softer tire to carry the corner speed and capitalize on that. The Honda's don't and particularly MM who can make harder compounds work where other riders and bikes cannot.

VR has always preferred I believe a front "loaded" setup. He likes to get in the corner and pitch the bike around on the front tire (instead of using the rear wheel spin to help steering ..) ... I think his style and M1 just create a plausible environment for this to happen. If they could use the M1 could use the harder compound VR would end up being more competitive ... it's too bad he had sign-off early from the race.
 
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