MotoGP™: Unlimited
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Winales_2017
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I just finished Indonesian testing and then watched this trailer and it scratched an itch. I hadn't followed up on this since i heard about it mid-season last year.
Sidenote: Marc's scars are ******* insane, I love watching the guy ride on the edge knowing it means he might crash in the process, but I also feel bad seeing how mangled his body already is in his mid 20s. I just hope he stays healthy because he was looking positive on the final day of testing.
Sochi
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released same day as F1: Drive to Survive - 4 seasons too late...
that's an interesting comment to unpack. Do you think there is only room for one motorsport based docu-series, or that they should have co-ordinated release dates for season 1?
Actually Drive to Survive season 4 was released last Friday. I binged watched it that night. I'll have to wait till I have some time to see the MotoGP show.
Sochi
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F1 and Netflix found a brand new niche what went viral straight from the beginning and benefited both greatly, and it took 4 years for MotoGP to copy it - wasted opportunity...
Sochi
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I just posted my thoughts on the actual show in "Shows Currently Watching" section - as not really a racer, so from a casual fan perspective - I think they are missing their chance to appeal to NA market as well by making 90% of the show in Spanish with english dabs and no English anchor/host...
You should definitely watch the subbed version. The dubbed version was the only available version at launch time in some countries and has been universally ridiculed. The subs have been available from the beginning in Canada though.
I'm halfway through too, and it's pretty good. I think it would be difficult for a non-fan to really get a good idea of what is going on though. Unlike the Netflix F1 doc, the MotoGP one does not focus on a single rider/team per episode. If you're unfamiliar with the riders to begin with, you might have a hard time following who-is-who.
It also suffers somewhat from the "let's cut away from the action on track to see the reaction of the teams in the pits" technique. They do that all the time in live races and it drives me nuts. The action clips in the doc tend to be rather short and choppy, but I guess that's fine for a general audience.
I'm halfway through too, and it's pretty good. I think it would be difficult for a non-fan to really get a good idea of what is going on though. Unlike the Netflix F1 doc, the MotoGP one does not focus on a single rider/team per episode. If you're unfamiliar with the riders to begin with, you might have a hard time following who-is-who.
It also suffers somewhat from the "let's cut away from the action on track to see the reaction of the teams in the pits" technique. They do that all the time in live races and it drives me nuts. The action clips in the doc tend to be rather short and choppy, but I guess that's fine for a general audience.
I was reading an article about this very thing. The universal F1 language is English, which adapts well to selling it to North America. The universal MotoGP language is a mix of Spanish and Italian, English is typically everyone's third language. Ironically, they tried to use a dubbed version to overcome this which was, as @Ash mentioned, universally panned.
Sochi
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Well, Swedish group ABBA figured it many many years ago - if you want to be famous WORLDWIDE - got to speak English primarily
I think F1 made an effort to make every driver to speak English in every official settings and see what happened to most guys became so famous around the globe. Maybe it will change in MotoGP with time, maybe not if they ok being superfamous only in Europe.. so far only Vale managed to fully transcend European continent and now he's retired...
Priller
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I don't want MotoGP to just be two wheeled F1, though. Part of what differentiates MotoGP from F1 is the riders are much freer to speak their minds. Part of what makes F1 so dull (to me) is how sanitised and controlled everything is and how bland the drivers are with their overwhelming media caution. I don't care if GP's aren't as popular as F1 if the cost is the soul of the sport. At this point, it's hard to imagine the racing getting better, so adding fame and more money can only detract from the overall. To add, the GP riders are probably even more famous across Asia in places like Indonesia than they are in Europe, so it's mostly North America that doesn't pay much attention.Well, Swedish group ABBA figured it many many years ago - if you want to be famous WORLDWIDE - got to speak English primarily
I think F1 made an effort to make every driver to speak English in every official settings and see what happened to most guys became so famous around the globe. Maybe it will change in MotoGP with time, maybe not if they ok being superfamous only in Europe.. so far only Vale managed to fully transcend European continent and now he's retired...
Also, part of the reason English is the common language in F1 is because most teams are based in the UK, so English has become the language of the paddock. GP teams are split between Austria, Italy and Japan, so it's much less homogenous in the pits.
To be fair, I haven't watched a minute of live F1 racing in almost 20 years (a couple years after Villeneuve joined BAR), as it's not a series that interests me at all, so I'm not the target market. While I admire the tech, it's not enough to make the racing interesting to me.
Will definitely watch this.
However, the gold standard for MotoGP docus is Mark Neale's Faster movies, and all the following sequels, as well as The Doctor, Tornado and the Kentucky Kid, and Hitting the Apex.
However, the gold standard for MotoGP docus is Mark Neale's Faster movies, and all the following sequels, as well as The Doctor, Tornado and the Kentucky Kid, and Hitting the Apex.
Priller
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I went back and rewatched Faster last year, as my wife had taken a surprising interest in MotoGP (nothing to do with Pecco's big doe eyes, she swears!), and I wanted to help her understand why everyone was making such a fuss about Rossi consistently finishing 15th or worse. What I remembered was a movie about Rossi vs Biaggi, but I'd forgotten how most of it is actually about Garry McCoy and a very young John Hopkins. It's an interesting relic, but wasn't anywhere near as good as I remember...Will definitely watch this.
However, the gold standard for MotoGP docus is Mark Neale's Faster movies, and all the following sequels, as well as The Doctor, Tornado and the Kentucky Kid, and Hitting the Apex.
One I missed on Netflix was Road, about the Dunlop family. I'm kicking myself now for letting it sit in my queue, as it's awfully hard to find now. If anyone can tell me where it can be watched legally, I'd appreciate it. Another road racing doc I missed was TT3D: Closer to the Edge, though it appears to be on YouTube (not sure about whether it's legal).
I haven't seen The Doctor, Tornado and the Kentucky Kid yet, but I did notice that it is available on Prime, so that's queued up after MotoGP Unlimited is done.
Another good one despite the cheesy name is "Speed Is My Need", which was available on netflix a while back. It's no longer on netflix, but it is on youtube (unofficially, I assume, so it might not be available for long).
Another good one despite the cheesy name is "Speed Is My Need", which was available on netflix a while back. It's no longer on netflix, but it is on youtube (unofficially, I assume, so it might not be available for long).
Tried watching in Spanish. Lots of crap dubbing. Tried watching in italian. Lots of crap dubbing. Watching in english was the best for me as they left all the original voices.
Overall Meh. I found the F1 series to be far more interesting and fun to watch. I personally care very little about f1 nor motogp so there should be no bias because I prefer one over the other.
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Assumed knowledge is high. They use nicknames and codes for events (q2, qp2, etc) without explaining them. The one explanation they gave was if you get the fastest lap in qualifying you start at the front for the race. No $^$#@. I think most people could figure that one out.
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