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Is this a worthwhile course to take or is simply going to the ministry, book a date for the test sufficient? Is there another more worthwhile course that will teach more than the M2 exit course?

I would appreciate your input on what courses are available for motorcycle riding (to improve abilities) other than the M1, M2 exit.

Thanks.
 
Having taken both the m1 and m2 exit, I thought the first one was a must for any new rider. The m2 exit was a complete waste of $. We spent the entire day group riding over the same stretch of roads. At the end of the course I told the instructor I had hoped to learn more, in fact anything. He said that its designed just to get you to pass the test, nothing else.

I could have taken the MTO test and failed several times and still come out on top $ wise.

Highly not recommended!
 
take the test through the MTO. if you ride a few times a week, you'll have no problems passing.
 
Thanks for the input guys. I wasn't concerned with passing. By the time I am ready to take the test I will have ridden several thousand kms, hopefully. I was more interested in knowing whether the course will teach any insight into defensive driving, maneuvers or techniques to improve riding.

Having said that, do you guys know of any courses out there that could meet those requirements.

Thanks
 
Personally, I found the M2 exit class to be a great refresher and since I had an excellent instructor, a valuable experience. I recommend it to all of my students based on this experience. If you just want to pass the test, you can cruise through it and you likely will pass as long as you are a reasonably decent rider. If you are really interested in improving your skills then it is a great opportunity to receive constructive feedback from an experienced rider and instructor. It's amazing how many bad habits most riders pick up in the first couple of years of riding.

BTW, The failure rate for the M2 exit at MTO is over 80% in many of their locations. The pass rate at most of the schools/colleges is over 90%. There are 400 possible deductions on the M2exit test, and if you get more than 25pts you fail.
 
Lunatic said:
BTW, The failure rate for the M2 exit at MTO is over 80% in many of their locations. The pass rate at most of the schools/colleges is over 90%. There are 400 possible deductions on the M2exit test, and if you get more than 25pts you fail.
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I'd like to see some official MTO paperwork confirm this high rate of failure compared to the riding schools. I've seen different numbers thrown around all the time, but never with any backing. If 80% is accurate (which I doubt) that either means the MTO test is too difficult (not the case) or the riding schools spoon feed the students.
 
It's about knowing what's on the test.
The course teaches you what to do, and then watch you do it.
If you don't know what to do, how can you pass.
It isn't stuff you would normally do.


matthew said:
I'd like to see some official MTO paperwork confirm this high rate of failure compared to the riding schools. I've seen different numbers thrown around all the time, but never with any backing. If 80% is accurate (which I doubt) that either means the MTO test is too difficult (not the case) or the riding schools spoon feed the students.
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When I did my M1 exit through the MTO about 50% of the people failed the parking lot portion. No one failed the road part (I know the M2 exit is totally different)

I'm having a hard time comprehending how a rider could fail the M2 exit test (MTO)... You have a whole year to ride before you can even take it, so unless you never ride, I don't see how you would fail. I'm assuming that people brush up on the rules prior to taking the test. I mean... everything you'll be doing is literally printed in the handbook.

The only 2 riders I know, both plowed through the M1 and M2 exit in their first shot. I did the same with my M1 and I'll do the same with my M2.

I guess nerves would play a big factor... but if you're THAT nervous then you probably shouldn't be taking the test anyways.

If you don't prepare and expect to pass, then you're better off taking the course where they'll take you through everything step by step.
 
I gotta do my M2exit this summer.

I would say that I'm fairly experienced. Been riding bikes over half my life (off road), spend every weekend from April to October racing MX and have been on the street for 4 years now.

And, I'm actually worried about the test. I'm skilled, but I just wonder if I will get failed for things such as tire track selection since I usually go by what is logical in whichever situation, not was is necessarily in the book. And the procedure for the emergency "parking" portion.

Plus, I'm worried that having a fender eliminator, loud slip on and modified signals might not even let the bike pass the inspection.
 
Yes, exactly. There are a lot of things most experienced riders would never normally do when riding, that will earn you demerits on your M2X test.
If you don't know what they are looking for, how would you ever do what they are looking for.
It gets down as far as a designated spot to see if you checked for pedestrians coming out of a park trail.
If you don't look, 1 demerit.
There are countless things exactly like this.
The course tells you where and when to look, and then the next day, they follow you to see if you listened.
That's why it's so much easier to pass at a course.
I recommend Sheridan.
 
While I haven't gotten my M yet I think the courses are more of a refresher. Riders who haven't ridden in awhile, or developed bad habits would benefit greatly from it. These are the same people who fail the MTO test. I'd say give the MTO test a try. If you fail, see how badly you did and then gauge whether you want to take a course or not.
 
As long as you're aware of what your bad habits are and how they can cost you points on the test, a couple of weeks of good practice should be enough prep. For looking, use common sense. You probably already know where to look. You just have to exaggerate your head movement so the examiner can tell. The motorcycle handbook and the M2 exit checklist will tell you what the examiner is looking for. I only lost one point for not looking where I should.
 
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As long as you're aware of what your bad habits are and how they can cost you points on the test, a couple of weeks of good practice should be enough prep. For looking, use common sense. You probably already know where to look. You just have to exaggerate your head movement so the examiner can tell. The motorcycle handbook and the M2 exit checklist will tell you what the examiner is looking for. I only lost one point for not looking where I should.
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I'm sticking one of my mini white number plate stickers on the center of the back of my helmet (black helmet) so that it's apparent and obvious when I move my head.
 
rmemedic said:
I'm sticking one of my mini white number plate stickers on the center of the back of my helmet (black helmet) so that it's apparent and obvious when I move my head.
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Typically they'll just have you put a piece of color tape on the back of the helmet if it's a solid color. Still need to exaggerate, as in turn your head completely. Not just turning is slightly and your eyes the rest (they can't see your eyes.)
 
Just read the thread here on the M2 exit test checklist. There is a lot of good points that tell you what they are looking for. I did the test at the MTO and had no problems .
 
If they don't teach you anything valuable I'm of the same opinion that taking the M2 exit at the MTO one or more times is more cost effective.
 
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The MTO failing rate reminds me of this:
[video=youtube;_4Di3YwEHM8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4Di3YwEHM8&list=HL1358905359[/video]

B*tch move by tester...
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Based on everyone I've met at the MTO...that seems about right.

While it's much more cost effective to do the ministry's M2 Exit, I hear it's orders of magnitude more stressful than just paying for the course. Mostly because everybody has "bad habits" (putting both feet down is a common one) that will get you docked points. Then you're dealing with the earpiece too which apparently sucks.
 
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I liked the M2 exit course. Ended up being fun even though it rained the whole day. Corrected some habits and aced the test. Plus I didn't want to deal with ministry workers that tend to fail or pass depending on they type of day they are having.
 
Not sure where you are getting your info from. But you don't accumulate points for putting both feet down. As long as your rear brake light is lit while at a stop , it,s OK. The earpiece is a not a issue.

Not sure why everyone is afraid of doing the test at the MTO . Some people even avoid certain locations cause they believe it will be tougher.

The way I see it if you are afraid of doing a test through the MTO. Then you probably shouldn't,t be riding on the street.

That video above does not represent the MTO test. Go to the M2 Exist board found here. A couple of people posted videos of their test at different locations.

Having said all that there is nothing wrong with taking the test through the course method. They may prepare you better. But at the end it's the exact same test.


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Based on everyone I've met at the MTO...that seems about right.

While it's much more cost effective to do the ministry's M2 Exit, I hear it's orders of magnitude more stressful than just paying for the course. Mostly because everybody has "bad habits" (putting both feet down is a common one) that will get you docked points. Then you're dealing with the earpiece too which apparently sucks.
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