Looking to develop a second career

So you have plenty of cash flow yet no passion for anything, no creative outlets? No hobbies or interests you can turn into a money-maker? I really don't know what that feels like.
Rich people problems....

Oh crap actually I'll be 35 this year, 36 next year man I'm getting old. But I feel you Link. I hate working for others. Can't see myself rolling the dice and trying to work until 60 just to earn a government pay cheque which I may or may not be getting depending on my health and crazy drivers.

I say if your cash flows provides you enough to breathe without worrying about debts than just guzzle some beer and something will eventually pop inside your head that will spur you into doing what you always wanted to do.

Sorry, I'm probably mistaking you for another guy
 
Backup singer for Drake? started from the bottom and look at me now, look at me now, hey look at me!!......
 
How about Green-Farming?

It's always been a dream of mine to create a self-sustaining farm in developing countries. A farm that can grow crops vertically to economize space and reuse resources. Angola in Africa is where it's booming. It's like the Dubai of Africa.

Another idea I had is an all-year round Ski Resort in Toronto. It wouldn't require snow makers so it cuts down operation costs dramatically. I wanted to start this too but it's very capital heavy. Look up SnowFlex, a synthetic carpet that replicates the attributes of snow. If I'm not doing it, atleast someone will bring this type of entertainment to the city. Did I mention it would be an amazing tourist attraction?

I was thinking about having a facilities that would be an indoor moto place in the winter months and in the summer months will transform into a ski and boarding place in the winter. That way off months and always busy.
 
Sounds like the OP is going through a quarter-life crisis.

Don't worry, bro. It'll pass. I'm going through one myself.

Here are some things I found unhelpful:
  • Talking to career counselors: they are great as band-aid solutions. But, they just tell you want you want to hear (and you steer them in the direction where you get told what you what to hear)
  • Deluding yourself into thinking you can find a career that you love
  • Conversely, believing that you can find a career that matches your "gifts"
  • Finding a career in the arts: I was doing indie films before (had my films screened at festivals worldwide, winning multiple awards, and televised on CBC), but, at the end of the day, it left me with a poop-load of debt. Plus, all my filmmaking friends don't make any money from it, and have full-time jobs.
  • Going to grad/professional school just to see if it fits: I went to law school (and have my law degree), but it was the biggest waste of time. I don't practice law, and never had the intention of becoming a lawyer. I know, it seems dumb. But, wasn't a law degree supposed to be valuable in other fields outside of law? NO! If you're going to pursue a higher degree, make sure it's the profession you want to pursue before applying.

And, here are some things I found (somewhat) helpful :) :
  • Acknowledging that you're second guessing your career choice, mostly b/c of anxiety: don't let fear get the best of you. It's likely your fear is making your situation seem worse than it really is.
  • Acknowledging the "grass-is-always-greener" syndrome: have you thought about the possibility that if you changed careers, you'd likely feel the same way as you do now (i.e., feeling unfulfilled)?
  • Just doing anything: get involved in activities that involve others, even if they might not lead to your second career. Doing things solo (like pursuing writing or painting) only feeds anxiety and perpetuates stagnation.
  • Reading Conquering Your Quarterlife Crisis by Alexandra Robbins: there's some helpful info, but there's nothing groundbreaking here.
  • Taking ownership and responsibility for your career choice(s): In my search for another career, I've wasted so much time trying to find the right career that fits. I went on a number of career paths only to change directions--and then having to start from ground zero--b/c it didn't meet my (unrealistic) expectations. Taking responsibility means sticking things out when things don't go your way.

Anyway, hope this helps, OP! Good luck on your search.
 
you could flip houses.

buy one, hire people to fix it (it'll feed your boss complex) then sell it...
buy a crappy house in a good neighborhood. There is some skill in doing that.

If you get good at finding undervalued property, you could even start tearing down and building something different. Like buy a strip mall and replace it with an apartment/condo building. Or vice versa.
 
Oh crap actually I'll be 35 this year, 36 next year man I'm getting old. But I feel you Link. I hate working for others. Can't see myself rolling the dice and trying to work until 60 just to earn a government pay cheque which I may or may not be getting depending on my health and crazy drivers.

I say if your cash flows provides you enough to breathe without worrying about debts than just guzzle some beer and something will eventually pop inside your head that will spur you into doing what you always wanted to do.

The cash flow is enough for me to live a frugal and comfortable life nothing luxurious. I have to give a certain percentage of it up to managers and key staff as an incentive to make sure things run smoothly and I don't have to be involved on a daily basis.

So you have plenty of cash flow yet no passion for anything, no creative outlets? No hobbies or interests you can turn into a money-maker? I really don't know what that feels like.

Yep, life sucks. Don't know what to tell you.

Sounds like the OP is going through a quarter-life crisis.

Don't worry, bro. It'll pass. I'm going through one myself.

Here are some things I found unhelpful:
  • Talking to career counselors: they are great as band-aid solutions. But, they just tell you want you want to hear (and you steer them in the direction where you get told what you what to hear)
  • Deluding yourself into thinking you can find a career that you love
  • Conversely, believing that you can find a career that matches your "gifts"
  • Finding a career in the arts: I was doing indie films before (had my films screened at festivals worldwide, winning multiple awards, and televised on CBC), but, at the end of the day, it left me with a poop-load of debt. Plus, all my filmmaking friends don't make any money from it, and have full-time jobs.
  • Going to grad/professional school just to see if it fits: I went to law school (and have my law degree), but it was the biggest waste of time. I don't practice law, and never had the intention of becoming a lawyer. I know, it seems dumb. But, wasn't a law degree supposed to be valuable in other fields outside of law? NO! If you're going to pursue a higher degree, make sure it's the profession you want to pursue before applying.

And, here are some things I found (somewhat) helpful :) :
  • Acknowledging that you're second guessing your career choice, mostly b/c of anxiety: don't let fear get the best of you. It's likely your fear is making your situation seem worse than it really is.
  • Acknowledging the "grass-is-always-greener" syndrome: have you thought about the possibility that if you changed careers, you'd likely feel the same way as you do now (i.e., feeling unfulfilled)?
  • Just doing anything: get involved in activities that involve others, even if they might not lead to your second career. Doing things solo (like pursuing writing or painting) only feeds anxiety and perpetuates stagnation.
  • Reading Conquering Your Quarterlife Crisis by Alexandra Robbins: there's some helpful info, but there's nothing groundbreaking here.
  • Taking ownership and responsibility for your career choice(s): In my search for another career, I've wasted so much time trying to find the right career that fits. I went on a number of career paths only to change directions--and then having to start from ground zero--b/c it didn't meet my (unrealistic) expectations. Taking responsibility means sticking things out when things don't go your way.

Anyway, hope this helps, OP! Good luck on your search.

It's not a crisis as much as I need something to occupy my mind or I go crazy and make people around me crazy. If I'm not working 14-16hrs a day, seven days a week I don't feel normal lol. I don't need vacations or holidays. 1-2 days off within the year is good enough for me.
 
have you thought about talking with your family physician ?

all jokes aside, it sounds like you have a serious problem with depression.
 
This.

OP is depressing me with his rich people problems

I'm not rich. Not even close. Work like a dog for a very long time everyday and you'll be there too. Only the lazy or incompetent whine as much as you do.

have you thought about talking with your family physician ?

all jokes aside, it sounds like you have a serious problem with depression.

Naw, not depressed, but don't feel fulfilled. Anyways I made up a small bucket list of things to do. Part of it going to be things I always wanted to do but was incapable of doing while growing up because of either lack of funds (playing the drums) or lack of talent (playing the drums) and part of it is going to be trying different things such as book keeping and accounting, but I won't do it the traditional way such as college courses. I'm going to try and learn by myself and through friends.
 
First world problems. We got it sooo good, we have to create our own problems.

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It's not a crisis as much as I need something to occupy my mind or I go crazy and make people around me crazy. If I'm not working 14-16hrs a day, seven days a week I don't feel normal lol. I don't need vacations or holidays. 1-2 days off within the year is good enough for me.

It sounds like you need to *learn* how to enjoy some down time. Seriously, the body and mind arent meant to be on the 'go' for 24/7 365. You may be able to pull it off now because you're relatively young, but chances are that it's not going to last.

Have you considered that you may have an anxiety issue? As fruity as it sounds, taking up some meditation classes might help you learn how to slow down a bit and enjoy the present moment.
 
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The cash flow is enough for me to live a frugal and comfortable life nothing luxurious. I have to give a certain percentage of it up to managers and key staff as an incentive to make sure things run smoothly and I don't have to be involved on a daily basis.



Yep, life sucks. Don't know what to tell you.



It's not a crisis as much as I need something to occupy my mind or I go crazy and make people around me crazy. If I'm not working 14-16hrs a day, seven days a week I don't feel normal lol. I don't need vacations or holidays. 1-2 days off within the year is good enough for me.

Normal folks like having vacations, spend time with family and friends, and hobbies. You should consider getting some real help, not from a bike forum.
 
Link666. You work all the time, have multiple businesses with managers running them,and want to work more but aren't rich.? Your words. Here's a wake up. You obviously aren't good at business. So go back to basics and focus on making what you are doing more profitable, stop asking for advice on forums and please get rich and or fulfilled. I dont know whether you are lying, crazy , stupid or all 3.
what kind of person chooses to employ people and to work 14 to 16 hours a day 7 days a week and only generate income for a frugal lifestyle. ???
I smell a lot of BS here
 
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Link666. You work all the time, have multiple businesses with managers running them,and want to work more but aren't rich.? Your words. Here's a wake up. You obviously aren't good at business. So go back to basics and focus on making what you are doing more profitable, stop asking for advice on forums and please get rich and or fulfilled. I dont know whether you are lying, crazy , stupid or all 3.
what kind of person chooses to employ people and to work 14 to 16 hours a day 7 days a week and only generate income for a frugal lifestyle. ???
I smell a lot of BS here
That's just the thing, he really doesn't want advice, these threads are vehicles to satisfy his need to brag in a thinly veiled manner, and hoping to generate pity at the same time. Any and all suggestions will be met with arguments that negate them.

In before he replies with some sort of deflecting comment.
 
That's just the thing, he really doesn't want advice, these threads are vehicles to satisfy his need to brag in a thinly veiled manner, and hoping to generate pity at the same time. Any and all suggestions will be met with arguments that negate them.

In before he replies with some sort of deflecting comment.

Brag about what??
lets review
1. He supposedly works 16 hours a day, 7 days a week
2. Supposedly pays other managers and staff to work so he doesn't have to be there. ( what the **** is he doing for 16 hours a day then?.)
3. doesn't make enough money for a lavish lifestyle but enough to live comfortable and frugal.
4. Wants to find more work to do.

so if you are suggesting he is bragging that he is more than likely , lying , stupid ,crazy or all 3 then ok yeah...he's bragging .
Minimally he's bragging that he is the worst business person ever with a horrible ability to generate work and hours that don't pay well and his life has no balance or upside for all the " work"
 
Brag about what??
lets review
1. He supposedly works 16 hours a day, 7 days a week
2. Supposedly pays other managers and staff to work so he doesn't have to be there. ( what the **** is he doing for 16 hours a day then?.)
3. doesn't make enough money for a lavish lifestyle but enough to live comfortable and frugal.
4. Wants to find more work to do.

so if you are suggesting he is bragging that he is more than likely , lying , stupid ,crazy or all 3 then ok yeah...he's bragging .
Minimally he's bragging that he is the worst business person ever with a horrible ability to generate work and hours that don't pay well and his life has no balance or upside for all the " work"
I'm not saying I understand the motivation, this is just the pattern. The brag is about owning the businesses, retire at 32, yadda yadda. Then "pity me, i work 14 hours a day".
 

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