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Looking for a "video editing" computer
- Thread starter rmemedic
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An acquaintance of mine proudly told me that he just spend $2500 on a MacBook Pro.
I didn't have the heart to tell him.
My condolences. Time to sell him something shiny for an exorbitant price.
GayManLoveIsOK
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unless you spend the dough, i don't think you'll see the performance difference between an $800 laptop of today and the one you currently have. i would would really consider building your own pc as you can customize it to the task you want to perform. a mac will work too, but you will be spending over your budget.
with your current laptop, it would be interesting to see what the resources are once you have a few clips loaded up to see the load. when you boot your laptop, how many processes do you have running? you'll probably find there is a ton of stuff running in the back ground that gets loaded that a) ties up resources b) conflicts with your apps...and i ain't talking about your start menu, you'll have to do some digging in the registry.
a great resource for building a budget pc and plenty of people to help other than us roughnecks on here is http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/.
good luck
with your current laptop, it would be interesting to see what the resources are once you have a few clips loaded up to see the load. when you boot your laptop, how many processes do you have running? you'll probably find there is a ton of stuff running in the back ground that gets loaded that a) ties up resources b) conflicts with your apps...and i ain't talking about your start menu, you'll have to do some digging in the registry.
a great resource for building a budget pc and plenty of people to help other than us roughnecks on here is http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/.
good luck
bboySushi
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A desktop PC will give you the bang for your buck, most definitely.
If you do go that route, I have a brand new, very nice AMD SAPPHIRE HD 6870 graphics card I can sell you for cheap. I won it in a sweepstakes contest but my desktop is too old it doesn't support PCIexpress. It's still in the wrap and everything, received it just weeks ago. I'm more of an audio guy, I just bought a new interface for recording so video isn't really important to me. PM me if you're interested, I'll definitely give you at least $50 off the retail and obviously no tax.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102909
If you do go that route, I have a brand new, very nice AMD SAPPHIRE HD 6870 graphics card I can sell you for cheap. I won it in a sweepstakes contest but my desktop is too old it doesn't support PCIexpress. It's still in the wrap and everything, received it just weeks ago. I'm more of an audio guy, I just bought a new interface for recording so video isn't really important to me. PM me if you're interested, I'll definitely give you at least $50 off the retail and obviously no tax.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102909
Besides the operating system what's proprietary on a mac?
Uses the same intel CPUs that regular PC's use
Uses the same ram that regular PC's use.
Uses the same hard drives that regular PC's use.
Yes I know, some stores sell "Apple tested" ram and hard drives... these are the same ram cards and hard drives with a higher price. If HP and Dell could get away with that they would.
As for the other OEM manufacturers... they all have proprietary parts in their desk tops as well when you factor in the power supply and connector on the mother board.
Uses the same intel CPUs that regular PC's use
Uses the same ram that regular PC's use.
Uses the same hard drives that regular PC's use.
Yes I know, some stores sell "Apple tested" ram and hard drives... these are the same ram cards and hard drives with a higher price. If HP and Dell could get away with that they would.
As for the other OEM manufacturers... they all have proprietary parts in their desk tops as well when you factor in the power supply and connector on the mother board.
An acquaintance of mine proudly told me that he just spend $2500 on a MacBook Pro.
I didn't have the heart to tell him.
odds are a similarly speced out HP Envy system or Dell Alienware system would cost a similar price.
Splash
Well-known member
Consider using different software. You could probably stretch the life of that old laptop 1 more year in time for IVYBRIDGE.
For example, using Sony Vegas pro you can down convert all your clips to 480p. Edit to your heart's content then tell Vegas to replace all the clips with the HighDef version then render. That's how people can edit 4k movies on regular computers.
If that was true then why not build a Hackintosh for 1/2 the price (or double the performance) ?
For example, using Sony Vegas pro you can down convert all your clips to 480p. Edit to your heart's content then tell Vegas to replace all the clips with the HighDef version then render. That's how people can edit 4k movies on regular computers.
If that was true then why not build a Hackintosh for 1/2 the price (or double the performance) ?
No, the odds are that all he is going to use it for is to browse the internet, and maybe, maybe do a few work spreadsheets.
what he uses it for is up to him, just like anyone who buys a ferrari or a superbike for street use.
Similarly spec'd macs do not cost the same like some people will claim. I've done the comparison on my last 3 computers and it always works out to almost $1000 more expensive to go with the Mac. If you really want iMovie I'd build a Hackintosh.
Also, buying in the US will be a lot cheaper. A few months ago I priced out a Dell Precision on the US site and the Canadian site. It was over $1000 cheaper to get it from the US even though the currency was about par.
Best bet for the most bang for your buck is definitely a desktop. I just bought a pretty decent 6 core barebones machine for only $300. Only integrated video but if you're not gaming, you probably don't need more than that (mine is to be a file server so it wasn't a concern).
Personally I never had much issue with video editing on even slow machines with the right software until it came to final encoding time. Then I'd just let it run sometime when I wasn't at the computer and it'd be done when I got back.
Also, buying in the US will be a lot cheaper. A few months ago I priced out a Dell Precision on the US site and the Canadian site. It was over $1000 cheaper to get it from the US even though the currency was about par.
Best bet for the most bang for your buck is definitely a desktop. I just bought a pretty decent 6 core barebones machine for only $300. Only integrated video but if you're not gaming, you probably don't need more than that (mine is to be a file server so it wasn't a concern).
Personally I never had much issue with video editing on even slow machines with the right software until it came to final encoding time. Then I'd just let it run sometime when I wasn't at the computer and it'd be done when I got back.
An acquaintance of mine proudly told me that he just spend $2500 on a MacBook Pro.
I didn't have the heart to tell him.
I think it was the other way around, he just didn't have the heart to tell you ... LOL
Unless you are talking about 8K computer it is NOT cheaper to buy Mac from US. Post links if you have them ...
Million cores CPU will do squat if you suffocate it with on-board video. It's non-sense to do something like that on video editing machine in my opinion.
Video editing is so much more about other things than encoding. You encode in batch over-night, nobody waits for encoding .... for example, if you use any effects, you will have to render on the fly. If you computer is not up to it, you will be waiting and waiting, and your work will have to wait as well because you will not see what you just composed together .... Software has nothing to do with that, to a degree of course. but hardware is always first.
bboySushi
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video editing, games...you have to have a dedicated (not integrated!) graphics card if you want any kind of speed or high resolution.
When you're compounding effects in Adobe premiere, or overlaying video, time-stretching, dealing with HD video, like MXS said, you do NOT want to be waiting for your comp to load every time you make a small adjustment and want to preview it.
When you're compounding effects in Adobe premiere, or overlaying video, time-stretching, dealing with HD video, like MXS said, you do NOT want to be waiting for your comp to load every time you make a small adjustment and want to preview it.
If you need any help just gimme a shout. I've built a few PCs for myself over the years, and some for friends as well. I built my current PC last summer, it set me back $3000 and it's still the king today
Ok so add a video card to the rig I mentioned above for another $300. You'd still have a way faster machine than a $600 laptop will get you.
I almost never build a machine without a dedicated video card. I haven't used any fancy video effects lately so I guess that's probably why I haven't seen the impact of a decent video card.
My example of getting machines for cheaper from the US was not related to Macs. I haven't really looked at their US vs Canadian prices but the last two Macs people I know have bought, they got in the US because it was cheaper.
I can't build a laptop.
Secondly, I have the money to buy a Macbook Pro, and more importantly, I'd rather be doing a million other things than building a computer (snore) and fighting to get OSX running on it (double-nerd-snore) only to later find out that an update from Apple rendered the entire thing useless. :lol: nerds just don't get it
Splash
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I dunno, not having to fight with the computer to make it work leaves more time for better things.... like riding or sex...
wonderings
Well-known member
Yes, we are all just so scared of technology because we use Apple products. I use Apple products because they work and work well. They give me a fraction of the headaches our PC's used to give us at work (99% mac based now). I use them because what is built right into OS X works well and is efficient for my work flow.... no wait, I only use Apple because I am scared of Windows, heaven forbid someone actually likes Apple for what the great eco system they have developed with the iPhone/iPad, Apple TV and their computers. Or for the stability of OS X.
I run both, I have a Dell at home, along with my iMac and MacBook Pro. Windows 7 is a good OS, but for me it does not touch OS X. Lets through out some other generic nerd speak blanket statements that mean absolutely nothing.
GayManLoveIsOK
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my biggest beef with windows machines is anything that comes with it loaded...i like windows, don't get me wrong, it's what i support mostly. but anytime someone buys a laptop or desktop with windows on it, it always comes BLOATED with so much useless software preloaded on it. i cannot say the same for a mac, they come clean and ready to use, i almost never have to do anything to clean it up. my only beef between supporting both systems is they seem to function backwards to each other. when you build the pc yourself, you decide what goes on there...
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