Dresden
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That's the old Magna employee plan. Roger's no longer offers it. Lucky for those who held on from the get-go.
lets talk about mobile voice/data plans
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That's the old Magna employee plan. Roger's no longer offers it. Lucky for those who held on from the get-go.
the MAGNA plan as it use to be is over
however they do still offer it with changes.. very heavy monitoring and restrictions.. for example before we could simple walk up to any rogers corporate store now its only through one individual who personally verifies info.. also employees at our division have been advised to go through our hr first... before we were allowed 5 lines... now its only 1 per employee and 1 more for spouse if we want it... heavy fraud enforcement. .. I was denied for my sister even though we live in same house.
Howerver the 6gb plan is eliminated
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I don't think that they can....although I have had them say that a plan is not offered anymore. I've found that locking in on a term is the best way to guarantee that you keep the same plan, at least for a couple more years. I made the mistake of walking away from a corporate plan years ago. Bad move.
legally no, but they fool you by saying you don't have a choice... thats when you ask them to inform you in writing of it... they usually back off
however corporate plans are an exception.. they are finished at the end of the contract..
I had an unlimited data plan with Telus on their CDMA network. They stopped releasing CDMA phones for Telus and won't let you add a different company's phone to their network. They forced me to switch if I wanted a modern phone. This left me with reduced coverage (several northern towns were still CDMA only as of my trips in 2013) and paying more for less.
They wouldn't let me carry the plan over. Their excuse was "the new phone won't recognize the old codes of your last plan". That statement makes zero sense. I think they were trying to say my new GSM phone won't work on the CDMA network, which my old plan was on, but that has nothing to do with how they bill me.
When I complained to Telus they told me it was because no modern phones were being produced for CDMA despite the fact that several US carriers were still CDMA and had many of the latest models. If that was actually the reason then why not let me port over a US phone? It was all bull.
I could've cloned an older phone to a newer model but that is/was a gray area in regards to legality (definitely illegal in the US, wasn't so sure about Canada) so I didn't bother.
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you should have complained to the crtc ombudsman
Dresden
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I'm pretty sure:
1. They can drop you as a client (presumably with written notice).
2. Can't "force" you to switch to a more favourable plan on their end, but can still do #1
3. They have much deeper pockets than the average consumer.
Wow, WIND is a lot cheaper than I remember... my current residence is juuuust outside their coverage though. I should move
Well... I'm with Fido now and I don't have usable reception anywhere at my house, unless I'm sitting in the rightmost seat of the upstairs living room couch. If I go outside, reception disappears again unless I travel kilometre north or a few more south. Would have been nice if carriers had figured out microcells by now, but that reeks of something useful and/or convenient
I have full reception at my home. I even tried calling my home to test it out. Works great so far. They said they bought up Mobilicity's towers, that should improve coverage.
For what I use my phone for, that should be good enough. I only need my phone for data, text & the odd emergency. I'd put it on roaming if I need an important call.
But if you don't get reception, what does roaming do? My understanding is that no reception applies to data, text and phone. Please advise.
Roaming will allow it to use Bell, Telus, or Rogers networks, instead. Which should have far better coverage. Rogers roams on Bell in a lot of the country, actually.
Oh. Thank you for clearing that up.
Will look at Wind for my kid, when the $ runs out on his pay as you go.
All he needs is coverage from here to school.
skip
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Wind is also putting repeaters in the subway system.... I'm with wind and have decent coverage in Toronto, Brampton and Hamilton. When in outside their network I just roam. They have good coverage away roaming with partner networks in the USA and UK as well.
daught
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I considered wind. Whenever I call someone on wind it takes a few tries to ring, and sound quality is horrible.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/07/10/wireless-canadian-black-m_n_7754516.html
[h=1]Cheaper Prairie Plans Create A Canadian Wireless Black Market[/h]How much is your wireless plan right now? What do you get for it? Chances are, if you don't live in the Prairies, you're overpaying.
And now a "black market" is emerging for wireless plans from the Prairies that would be considered a steal in other parts of the country.
A poster on Kijiji by the name of "Tony" is offering to set you up with an "Amazing Koodo Mobile plan."
According to the ad, the $48-a-month plan gets you unlimited everything (calling, texting), caller ID, voicemail, and 5GB of data. Don't like Koodo? There's another user named "Daneil" who is offering something similar for $50 monthly and 6GB data with Fido.
Both "Tony" and "Daneil" require a payment of $100, after activation, to hook you up with your plan.
By contrast, a comparable $85 monthly plan at Virgin in Ontario gets you the same services but only 1GB of data. Change your province to Saskatchewan and you get the same plan for $65 a month, but with 5GB of data.
Why is it so much cheaper on the Prairies? Competition.
Consumers have the option of choosing SaskTel as a provider in Saskatchewan or MTS in Manitoba, in addition to the Big 3 (Telus, Rogers and Bell). In an attempt to entice more customers, the Big 3 offer significantly cheaper (sometimes up to 50 per cent off) plans to residents.
We reached out to both "Tony" and "Daneil" for an interview, to find out how they provide their services, but they didn't immediately reply.
Shawn Hall, a spokesperson for Telus, which owns Koodo Mobile, said the company is "looking into the practice." He noted customers who want to buy plans from sellers on Kijiji would have to hand over some sensitive personal information.
"It is concerning that the service asks for customers’ PINs and other account information as that opens up the possibility of fraud, and encourage people to take care to protect their personal information."
"Tony" and "Daneil" aren't the only ones to figure out this potential loophole. There are a threads on Reddit dedicated to exploiting this.
User cowrokee posted a thorough guide on how he got his cheaper phone plan with Koodo.
Other threads created by users ask if anyone has tried this "possible money saving hack."
One user, tacofarts, who was successful in exploiting this loophole, explained on Reddit that
According to the Acceptable Use policies of Rogers and Fido it is a violation to "use, reproduce, distribute, sell, resell or otherwise exploit the Services or content we provide or which you obtain through the Services for any commercial purposes." Therefore, "Tony" and "Daneil"'s Kijiji services violate the Terms of Service agreements.
But is it okay if you do it yourself? Apparently so.
[h=1]Cheaper Prairie Plans Create A Canadian Wireless Black Market[/h]How much is your wireless plan right now? What do you get for it? Chances are, if you don't live in the Prairies, you're overpaying.
And now a "black market" is emerging for wireless plans from the Prairies that would be considered a steal in other parts of the country.
A poster on Kijiji by the name of "Tony" is offering to set you up with an "Amazing Koodo Mobile plan."
According to the ad, the $48-a-month plan gets you unlimited everything (calling, texting), caller ID, voicemail, and 5GB of data. Don't like Koodo? There's another user named "Daneil" who is offering something similar for $50 monthly and 6GB data with Fido.
Both "Tony" and "Daneil" require a payment of $100, after activation, to hook you up with your plan.
By contrast, a comparable $85 monthly plan at Virgin in Ontario gets you the same services but only 1GB of data. Change your province to Saskatchewan and you get the same plan for $65 a month, but with 5GB of data.
Why is it so much cheaper on the Prairies? Competition.
Consumers have the option of choosing SaskTel as a provider in Saskatchewan or MTS in Manitoba, in addition to the Big 3 (Telus, Rogers and Bell). In an attempt to entice more customers, the Big 3 offer significantly cheaper (sometimes up to 50 per cent off) plans to residents.
We reached out to both "Tony" and "Daneil" for an interview, to find out how they provide their services, but they didn't immediately reply.
Shawn Hall, a spokesperson for Telus, which owns Koodo Mobile, said the company is "looking into the practice." He noted customers who want to buy plans from sellers on Kijiji would have to hand over some sensitive personal information.
"It is concerning that the service asks for customers’ PINs and other account information as that opens up the possibility of fraud, and encourage people to take care to protect their personal information."
"Tony" and "Daneil" aren't the only ones to figure out this potential loophole. There are a threads on Reddit dedicated to exploiting this.
User cowrokee posted a thorough guide on how he got his cheaper phone plan with Koodo.
Other threads created by users ask if anyone has tried this "possible money saving hack."
One user, tacofarts, who was successful in exploiting this loophole, explained on Reddit that
I did this! I was living in Calgary and was sick of paying outrageous rates for my cell phone plan so I went into a 3rd party wireless retailer (wireless wave? I think. I heard if you go into an actual corporate store for one if the big 3 they'll be more strict) and told them I was being sent to Saskatchewan for work and needed to have a number for there before I left. I got them to set me up on the 5gb plan on koodo (which was on promo for 55, but you get the byod discount so it was 49.50+tax) they required an address there, so I gave them a random Saskatoon address and I was on my way. Then I logged into my account for koodo and ported over my actual phone number and changed my address. This cancels the old plan you had (so if you're on contract, beware of charges) and moves your number on top of your sask plan. Only thing is, if you ever have to change your number or make any changes or have to call them for any reason they could kill your plan. I found koodo was best because you can port your number online and don't have to talk to anyone to get that part done.
Of course, the real question is, does signing up for a cell phone plan in a different province while living in another violate the Service Terms? Let's see.
According to the Acceptable Use policies of Rogers and Fido it is a violation to "use, reproduce, distribute, sell, resell or otherwise exploit the Services or content we provide or which you obtain through the Services for any commercial purposes." Therefore, "Tony" and "Daneil"'s Kijiji services violate the Terms of Service agreements.
But is it okay if you do it yourself? Apparently so.
