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leslie lakeshore. whats with the gangs showing up

The Outlaws are great people. It's a bike meet and the MC groups have every right to be there as we do. As someone else said, bikers are bikers unless you do something stupid so as far as I'm concerned, if they wanna be there, all the power to them. The cops are probably just worried about rival issues and wanna check it out. I don't understand why non-MC members would leave because of their presence. If anything, I'm sure the MC groups would be more inclined to leave if cops showed up. As for being guilty through association, or something along those lines, it's a bike meet. Do the cops really think we all go there to be with the clubs? I don't care regardless. I'll still talk and be seen with my Outlaw friends. I choose my own friends. No one else.
 
Even if those are 1 percenters, they wouldn't cause a scene at a public meet. Last thing they want is a bunch of cops swooping down on them.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
This means that you can end up on police lists for investigation, for associating with them. Just by being there, they invite additional police interest.
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It is good to steer clear of outlaws. Some might be interesting people, but it's inviting a lot of bad luck into your life. The very few who are real criminals can take advantage of people who are lonely, need friends, or get off on taking dumb risks they don't understand - like hanging around outlaws.

Read the news as well. If you are within a block of anywhere known gangs are wearing colors, assume you and your plate are being photographed by police, your picture and plate may be matched in the drivers license automated facial recognition system, and your name becomes tagged in certain databases as a possible "associate of" the gangs in question.

It may not affect a regular job background check, but they share information with the US border and homeland security, and you could encounter harassment there when you don't have full rights as a citizen. If you ever have trouble with the police or prosecutors, the information will be secretly used against you, and if you are military, be worried about clearance issues. Whether or not you get involved with drugs, violence or crime is mostly in your control. Whether or not you get put on some blacklist that causes you or your loved ones "bad luck" in the legal, tax, or immigration systems because you had coffee in the wrong parking lot, is not in your control.

Most of those clubs were started in the 1960s, the world is a much different place now. Of the things that can mess with your life, bikers should be the least of your worries.
 
If L&L is a privately owned lot and people with colours are showing up, then these meets will soon end. The reason in my opinion is due to insurance liability. They will not want to risk a gunfight breaking out on private property because of potential lawsuits for pain and suffering due to an unsafe coffee purchasing experience.
 
whos to say they aren't down trying to recruit? the ones who impress people with their new exhausts as they bounce the rpm off the rev limiters would be good targets
 
professor said:
Tomorrow is Wednesday! Just saying lol.
Don't think you will catch anyone their but a bycicle group in tight short shorts!

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lol yea, I just remembered that as I was stepping out to go to burrito boyz...

Sunspark said:
If L&L is a privately owned lot and people with colours are showing up, then these meets will soon end. The reason in my opinion is due to insurance liability. They will not want to risk a gunfight breaking out on private property because of potential lawsuits for pain and suffering due to an unsafe coffee purchasing experience.
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lol...been watching too much Sons Of Anarachy??
 
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Has anyone verified they are full fledged members???

I am no gang expert, but I don't think biker gang full patch membership is that easy to obtained. You must not only show loyalty and stuff but what contribution you can bring into the gang. Lots of guys are ex-military, some are even former cops maybe a few career criminal with some good tools of the trade. They won't admit some punk *** kid high school drop out just because they are on a SS bike, so the chances they are at LnL to doing a mass recruitment convention is not likely.
 
1% patch on you vest identifies you as a criminal .They don`t get to put those patches on their vests for nothing .
 
This thread is certainly looking up.
Now gang members go to pose at timmies.... with cops everywhere. What next? :thumbup:
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Wow....thats all i gotta say. Someone reads way to many Tom Clancy novels.

GentlemanRacer said:
It is good to steer clear of outlaws. Some might be interesting people, but it's inviting a lot of bad luck into your life. The very few who are real criminals can take advantage of people who are lonely, need friends, or get off on taking dumb risks they don't understand - like hanging around outlaws.

Read the news as well. If you are within a block of anywhere known gangs are wearing colors, assume you and your plate are being photographed by police, your picture and plate may be matched in the drivers license automated facial recognition system, and your name becomes tagged in certain databases as a possible "associate of" the gangs in question.

It may not affect a regular job background check, but they share information with the US border and homeland security, and you could encounter harassment there when you don't have full rights as a citizen. If you ever have trouble with the police or prosecutors, the information will be secretly used against you, and if you are military, be worried about clearance issues. Whether or not you get involved with drugs, violence or crime is mostly in your control. Whether or not you get put on some blacklist that causes you or your loved ones "bad luck" in the legal, tax, or immigration systems because you had coffee in the wrong parking lot, is not in your control.

Most of those clubs were started in the 1960s, the world is a much different place now. Of the things that can mess with your life, bikers should be the least of your worries.
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green_ninja said:
That is true for the most part. Unless you cross one they don't look for trouble. Though one mocked my bike it was hurtful. He called it a plastic Japanese sewing machine :thefinger:
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Whenever I got that I just told them once they pass the beginner stage of riding they might appreciate more advanced motorcycles. That ALWAYS shuts them up. Or you can remind them that the original Harley motor was a bilge pump. So right from the start they were designed to move crap. :)
 
RedDogDarren said:
Whenever I got that I just told them once they pass the beginner stage of riding they might appreciate more advanced motorcycles. That ALWAYS shuts them up. Or you can remind them that the original Harley motor was a bilge pump. So right from the start they were designed to move crap. :)
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Motorcycles were designed to do three things exceedingly well. Accelerate, turn and stop..... unless you have a harley :D
 
Roomie said:
This thread is certainly looking up.
Now gang members go to pose at timmies.... with cops everywhere. What next? :thumbup:
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Those guys are actually cops posing as gang members to ferret out L&L riders who want to join mc gangs.

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Why does it have to sound like an "us vs them" mentality? Isn't it just a bike meet?
I ride rocket but have HA in our family history. Best of both worlds. There are posers on both sides of the fence, but also good people too.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
If these are really full path riders who are showing up, then I would recommend that people who aren't involved with these organizations go elsewhere. Sure, I've met some who are regular folks and just love to ride. I used to have a group of Pair-a-Dice riders in my complex, before they were absorbed by the HA, who I talked to regularly and who invited me in for a drink on more than one occasion. To police, though, they're all members of a criminal organization. This means that you can end up on police lists for investigation, for associating with them. Just by being there, they invite additional police interest. Then there's also the possibility of turf related issues.
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I would tend to agree with this. My 2 experiences include 15 riders in full colors showing up at Rosie Toes with a flat and telling everyone waiting that their leaking tire was going to the front of the line. None of the 10 - 15 of us waiting had anything to say about this (very wisely, I might add) the flat was repaired and they went on their way. Second was being passed by 2 in full colors on the 407, presumably on their way to Port Dover. I was doing 120 - 130, they were doing 150++. 5 KM later I went by them and they had been pulled over by 5 OPP cars with about 8 - 10 cops in full swat gear pointing assault rifles and sub machine guns at the 2 riders. Pretty dramatic scene. I'd give these guys a wide berth.
 
Roomie said:
Motorcycles were designed to do three things exceedingly well. Accelerate, turn and stop..... unless you have a harley :D
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Be nice, Harleys are the worlds leader of turning gas into noise without the side effect of power.....
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