Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.5%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.5%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 56 50.0%

  • Total voters
    112

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No idea but unless the reporter was having problems with their words it sounds like the police are playing catch and release end of story.
They might face civil issues in the future tho.

The homeowner(s) was released.. no charges pending at this point... the investigation continues.. there may or may not be charges later on.
 
The same government that banned single-use plastics for environmental reasons has been quietly crushing thousands of decommissioned RCMP vehicles for the past four years, Global News has learned. The RCMP has the largest law enforcement fleet in North America, consisting of approximately 12,000 vehicles.17
 
The same government that banned single-use plastics for environmental reasons has been quietly crushing thousands of decommissioned RCMP vehicles for the past four years, Global News has learned. The RCMP has the largest law enforcement fleet in North America, consisting of approximately 12,000 vehicles.17
This was announced after the shooting out east. Still a stupid policy let's them pretend they care and are doing something.

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Media release codewords for shootings etc...

-Victim (includes target in this context) is known to the police. Basically they are saying a criminal on criminal crime.
-Targeted... is more vague. Targeted could mean criminal on criminal but could also be domestic, robbery, etc. Really to me they are just saying it is not random and people in the area don't need to freak out.

In the concept of a home invasion... could just be info that the person is wealthy and is known to keep cash or valuables on hand. Could be a recent casino win. Could be car theft home invasion. But totally can also be a criminal with cash or drugs on hand. Not enough details to know... The more telling to me. If a totally legal firearm is properly stored in Canada at home (as per the laws) IMO you need some pretty good 'warning" to have enough runway for it to be used for self defence (not just a door being knocked down). Now that does not mean they are a dealer but they had an idea something/someone was coming.
 
Media release codewords for shootings etc...

-Victim (includes target in this context) is known to the police. Basically they are saying a criminal on criminal crime.
-Targeted... is more vague. Targeted could mean criminal on criminal but could also be domestic, robbery, etc. Really to me they are just saying it is not random and people in the area don't need to freak out.

In the concept of a home invasion... could just be info that the person is wealthy and is known to keep cash or valuables on hand. Could be a recent casino win. Could be car theft home invasion. But totally can also be a criminal with cash or drugs on hand. Not enough details to know... The more telling to me. If a totally legal firearm is properly stored in Canada at home (as per the laws) IMO you need some pretty good 'warning" to have enough runway for it to be used for self defence (not just a door being knocked down). Now that does not mean they are a dealer but they had an idea something/someone was coming.
My weapons are properly stored and I would estimate it would take 3 minutes to have at least a partially loaded weapon ready to defend myself. I'd be more likely to grab a sword off the rack.
 
My weapons are properly stored and I would estimate it would take 3 minutes to have at least a partially loaded weapon ready to defend myself. I'd be more likely to grab a sword off the rack.
With the right storage system and practice, you could get that down a bunch. Not many people practice emergencies.
 
With the right storage system and practice, you could get that down a bunch. Not many people practice emergencies.
In my experience anything faster than that would likely involve stuff like fingerprint reader gun safes, which are notoriously insecure. Good ol' key or combination for me. It would be a .44 cal lever action carbine, loaded with hollow points.

On the other hand I could have three and a half feet of various sorts of pointy steel in hand, in about 20 seconds. The biggest delay would be figuring out whether I wanted to take off body parts, or put a nice hole right through them.

And that 7 foot spear is looking really tempting at the moment, as well.
 
In my experience anything faster than that would likely involve stuff like fingerprint reader gun safes, which are notoriously insecure. Good ol' key or combination for me. It would be a .44 cal lever action carbine, loaded with hollow points.

On the other hand I could have three and a half feet of various sorts of pointy steel in hand, in about 20 seconds. The biggest delay would be figuring out whether I wanted to take off body parts, or put a nice hole right through them.

And that 7 foot spear is looking really tempting at the moment, as well.
Push code access (either mechanical or electronic) is fast, reliable and can be done in the dark from muscle memory. I don't trust fingerprint locks at all (normally easy to defeat but at the same time don't want to open quickly when you need in).
 
What kind of safe (brand) do you recommend?
I havent applied for my license yet - but back when I did the PAL/RPAL training they stated guns and ammunition would have to be stored in separate/ individual safe(s). Does that mean one safe for each or would a safe within a safe suffice?
 
What kind of safe (brand) do you recommend?
I havent applied for my license yet - but back when I did the PAL/RPAL training they stated guns and ammunition would have to be stored in separate/ individual safe(s). Does that mean one safe for each or would a safe within a safe suffice?
For most people, a "gun safe" that is $600-1200 is reasonable. Much more secure than a windowed wooden cabinet. Most gun owners aren't willing to pay (and have trouble accomodating) a proper rated safe. One to hold long guns would be five figures new and 3000 lbs.

In general, heavier is better. Over 600 lbs loaded as a minimum. Otherwise they just carry it away.
 
Push code access (either mechanical or electronic) is fast, reliable and can be done in the dark from muscle memory. I don't trust fingerprint locks at all (normally easy to defeat but at the same time don't want to open quickly when you need in).
Watch a few videos by The Lockpicking Lawyer, on Youtube, and you'll think that most electronic lock safes are barely good enough to store gum. They also don't typically meet the requirements for safe storage of a firearm in Canada. My stuff is bolted to framing so a thief would either need to defeat the safe, or tear down half a wall.
 
Watch a few videos by The Lockpicking Lawyer, on Youtube, and you'll think that most electronic lock safes are barely good enough to store gum. They also don't typically meet the requirements for safe storage of a firearm in Canada. My stuff is bolted to framing so a thief would either need to defeat the safe, or tear down half a wall.
I have a handful of S&G safe locks I can use on whatever. I trust them. Obviously the construction of the container you place them on matters a lot.
 
when I did the PAL/RPAL training they stated guns and ammunition would have to be stored in separate/ individual safe(s).

Your CFSC instructor mistaken, or purposely spreading BS
Ammo does not have to be locked in a "safe".

And note, the firearms act does not define what a "safe" is. It's very vague.
Could be a repurposed metal locker or a 500lb vault bolted to the floor.
The act uses terms like "a container not easily broken into" and "ammunition shouldn't be readily accessible"
Lots of room for interpretation.
Going by the FA one could put their guns in a broom closet and argue that their house is a "sturdy container not easily broken into"
 
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