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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Markham police shooting nov 25. Video is disturbing. Interesting/good job that yrp managed to setup at the exact address that was about to be home invaded (allegedly). Some pretty questionable tactics as more officers piled in (running out into no-mans land with no cover, moving into field of fire, etc.).

👏👏 👍👍Cops earning their places on the sunshine list for once.
 
👏👏 👍👍Cops earning their places on the sunshine list for once.

Looked at the area this happened, it's an upperclass neighborhood with a ton of 3 car garage 4000+ft2 houses etc and a govt housing block half a km away.

Seeing the police reaction time and the type of vehicles that arrived on scene, I'm guessing they suspected the home invaders were from the govt housing so set up 4 Bait cars around the neighbourhood all idling in driveways. The sting worked like a charm. Hopefully these were the ones terrorizing the neighbourhood.
 
Waiting to hear how aspiring the young youth was from their surviving family, just about to go back school too probably, and the lawsuit against police for shooting while they were running away. Seems about right.
 
Looked at the area this happened, it's an upperclass neighborhood with a ton of 3 car garage 4000+ft2 houses etc and a govt housing block half a km away.

Seeing the police reaction time and the type of vehicles that arrived on scene, I'm guessing they suspected the home invaders were from the govt housing so set up 4 Bait cars around the neighbourhood all idling in driveways. The sting worked like a charm. Hopefully these were the ones terrorizing the neighbourhood.
There's definitely no "gov't housing" within 500m of that neighbourhood, more like 5km away.
 
Almost six months of suspended with pay before they laid criminal sex assault charges against a police superintendent. Now years more before trial is done. PSA needs to change. If they have enough evidence to lay criminal sex assault charges, they have enough to terminate now for bad behaviour.


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For those questioning where all the money goes in police budgets, this one guy earned over 100K while doing zero work. By the time the trial is over, it will be more than $700k paid to a dirtbag for doing zero work.
 
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Another poor showing by siu. They may have come to the correct conclusion but some of their published logic is garbage and the fact that they don't catch that prior to publishing is disturbing. They say that 13 to 16 shots were fired (every gun has a one bullet margin of error) and 13 casings were found. So either they missed collecting some evidence and/or there is a policy issue and nobody knows how many bullets are in cop guns. Pretty weak.


In the report, the SIU was not able to determine how many shots each of the officers fired but said a count of ammunition remaining in their firearms indicated one of the officers fired three or four times, the other four or five times and the last six or seven times.

The SIU added that 13 spent cartridge cases were found at the scene.
 
Another poor showing by siu. They may have come to the correct conclusion but some of their published logic is garbage and the fact that they don't catch that prior to publishing is disturbing. They say that 13 to 16 shots were fired (every gun has a one bullet margin of error) and 13 casings were found. So either they missed collecting some evidence and/or there is a policy issue and nobody knows how many bullets are in cop guns. Pretty weak.


In the report, the SIU was not able to determine how many shots each of the officers fired but said a count of ammunition remaining in their firearms indicated one of the officers fired three or four times, the other four or five times and the last six or seven times.

The SIU added that 13 spent cartridge cases were found at the scene.
The inaccuracy based on rounds remaining is presumably because semi automatic handguns are capable of having a round chambered, in addition to a full magazine, but they aren't supposed to do that by policy.
 
The inaccuracy based on rounds remaining is presumably because semi automatic handguns are capable of having a round chambered, in addition to a full magazine, but they aren't supposed to do that by policy.
I know how the discrepancy was possible. The fact that they couldnt provide accurate information on how many bullets any cop had was disappointing. That is a pretty low bar for data collection/corroboration.
 
The inaccuracy based on rounds remaining is presumably because semi automatic handguns are capable of having a round chambered, in addition to a full magazine, but they aren't supposed to do that by policy.

I have a feeling it's more that some arent loading their magazines to capacity maybe. If they found 13 casings but think 16 shots were fired, they are under the impression the magazines were full, but I doubt they were.

Do the police have to sign for every bullet or do they just go to the armory and load their mags and walk off? Sometimes the last couple rounds are hard to load, especially without an easy loader.
 
I think they keep a round chambered at all times.
That makes sense but the complete data gap as to whether they then add one to refill or leave the magazine with one empty spot is disappointing. There should be clearly defined policy and training and every cop should easily be able to tell you how many are in the gun at the start of every shift (because it should remain constant until policy and training are revised to change that number).
 
That makes sense but the complete data gap as to whether they then add one to refill or leave the magazine with one empty spot is disappointing. There should be clearly defined policy and training and every cop should easily be able to tell you how many are in the gun at the start of every shift (because it should remain constant until policy and training are revised to change that number).

The 3 cops involved probably could tell them how many rounds they had loaded.. but none of them did interviews with the SIU.
 
A FIVE YEAR OLD was bitten by a police dog and there's no investigation? That, alone, is an issue.
Its a dog. The kid startled it by either falling on it or near it (depending on who you believe) and the dog reacted like a dog would. Whats to investigate?
 
Its a dog. The kid startled it by either falling on it or near it (depending on who you believe) and the dog reacted like a dog would. Whats to investigate?
The reaction of a "dog" and a "trained law enforcement canine" should not be the same.
 
Never touch a K9 when it's on.
 

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