Well just think of what kind of performance it takes to go from zero to Godwin in 2.5 seconds.
Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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Well just think of what kind of performance it takes to go from zero to Godwin in 2.5 seconds.
Re: Can you be arrested for being a person of interest?
Yes, I have a problem with anyone who wants to take away our freedoms...my family fought hard for them in several wars.
Harper and Blair are the enemy of some of those freedoms in this case.
Any police that were involved in those constitutional infringements against your own citizens should hang your heads in shame.
You know better, and better men would have refused those orders as illegal.
They were obvious to every officer involved that they were against your oath.
Law Enforcement Oath of Honor
On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution
my community and the agency I serve.
I'm not deleting anything...that's for me to decide or the mods to overrule and delete themselves.
The reason I posted was to show that these things can and DO happen here.
Yes, I have a problem with anyone who wants to take away our freedoms...my family fought hard for them in several wars.
Harper and Blair are the enemy of some of those freedoms in this case.
Any police that were involved in those constitutional infringements against your own citizens should hang your heads in shame.
You know better, and better men would have refused those orders as illegal.
They were obvious to every officer involved that they were against your oath.
Law Enforcement Oath of Honor
On my honor,
I will never betray my badge,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution
my community and the agency I serve.
I'm not deleting anything...that's for me to decide or the mods to overrule and delete themselves.
The reason I posted was to show that these things can and DO happen here.
Sorry, but if you knew your history regarding the lead up to the Nazi party taking over Germany you will see this is exactly the type of behavior they were engaged in.
It is a slippery slope you start down when you infringe on people's constitutional rights, freedom of the press in this way.
It is a slippery slope you start down when you infringe on people's constitutional rights, freedom of the press in this way.
I know my history very well, thanks.
If recent policing controversies are guiding us in a particular political direction I would say that it is left, not right. The 1930s example people should be using is a few thousand miles East of Germany.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cri...constable-fined-856-for-double-limit-speeding
Some interesting comments...
Some interesting comments...
Shaman
Well-known member
Cops acting like the law doesn't apply to them, again. Big surprise.
http://www.globaltoronto.com/toronto+police+and+siu+issue+competing+news+releases+in+public+tiff/6442780999/story.html
I've said it before, the general public under the age of 55 knows about how bad the cops are. It's really the minority (some of which are represented here but most which are not) that don't know that the cops are acting like kings and that so many of the laws are unjust and unecessary.
http://www.globaltoronto.com/toronto+police+and+siu+issue+competing+news+releases+in+public+tiff/6442780999/story.html
I've said it before, the general public under the age of 55 knows about how bad the cops are. It's really the minority (some of which are represented here but most which are not) that don't know that the cops are acting like kings and that so many of the laws are unjust and unecessary.
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Shaman
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http://www.ibtimes.com/nypd-cop-rapes-female-teacher-alley-gun-point-646167
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...8P7YICIGrZ730uODDsgeQ&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j..._6PR4LGVDhFeitLCduReg&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...dGLjuDB4hJq1i8yaTJbsA&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...8P7YICIGrZ730uODDsgeQ&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ
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house arrest, i can't help but laugh.
http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/toronto-police-officers-get-house-arrest-for-corruption
http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/toronto-police-officers-get-house-arrest-for-corruption
One might. Whats the Coles? I've never had one bad interaction with fuzz. I'm guessing thats not the main thrust of 126 pages? Did I save myself some reading?
You mean there's no way to summarize the 2500 posts? Could you at least summarize your posts in this thread, since you are the largest contributor? I think I've read all of it and I still don't know what your point is.
Shaman
Well-known member
I don't even know what to say about that. But here's a quick and dirty:
- cops themselves are not good at following laws
- cops rarely are called to task for breaking laws by their fellow officers
- cops are not to be trusted whether in line of duty or no
- some cops like to use violence and look for excuses to do it
- police are paid a lot of money compared to, say, educational workers
- it's not safe to assume that police actually know the law
- one should not talk to police, in general
- cops lie like a dirty rug, there's no law against it
- cops enforce laws which are unfair and unjust, and they know it
- cops love their tasers
- sometimes cops actually do some good to society
- some cops are good people, but they are not rewarded for it
- cops don't like cops that try to enforce laws on cops (see above)
- the 2010 G20 was an inhumane crime against the people - by police
I think that mostly covers it. The thread is full of many examples of the above, and I'm sure more topics. It's old and huge and I've just taken 10 minutes of my time to explain my outlook on the thread, on the whole.
- cops themselves are not good at following laws
- cops rarely are called to task for breaking laws by their fellow officers
- cops are not to be trusted whether in line of duty or no
- some cops like to use violence and look for excuses to do it
- police are paid a lot of money compared to, say, educational workers
- it's not safe to assume that police actually know the law
- one should not talk to police, in general
- cops lie like a dirty rug, there's no law against it
- cops enforce laws which are unfair and unjust, and they know it
- cops love their tasers
- sometimes cops actually do some good to society
- some cops are good people, but they are not rewarded for it
- cops don't like cops that try to enforce laws on cops (see above)
- the 2010 G20 was an inhumane crime against the people - by police
I think that mostly covers it. The thread is full of many examples of the above, and I'm sure more topics. It's old and huge and I've just taken 10 minutes of my time to explain my outlook on the thread, on the whole.
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Oh that. I see that on the news from time to time. Is it a big problem? Nobody I know has had any issues that I recall. Except that G20 deal. We stayed away that day. Thanx for taking the time. People should be made aware of these things. Thanx again. 126 pages huh?
Shaman
Well-known member
It is a big problem. And getting worse. It's never a problem for YOU until you meet up with a cop that say... crushes your eye socket because you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, like happened to a guy I know in Smith's Falls (not involved in any of what was going on, just happened to get too close to the scene of a disturbance). Or locks up your friend and charges him with DUI because the guy who was actually driving the car and admitted to it in questioning skipped the province; then gets a conviction because your friend couldn't afford a real lawyer. Or maybe you watch a cop you know do really stupid and irresponsible things on a sportbike, such as wheelying it at high speeds in a city or riding it visibly under the influence of alcohol, and the other cops who know him laugh about it... and give him a free pass.
Then, maybe, you might gain a better understanding.
Then, maybe, you might gain a better understanding.
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Wow. This sounds bad. Isn't there some way to stop this?
Shaman
Well-known member
Have you watched the G20 fallout? The "blue shield" is practically untouchable and refuses to investigate, much less enforce the law on its own people, not to mention the morality of all their activities such as removing their identification; jailing people in mock cages; threatening to rape women in their custody. It won't happen without serious effort. They've got a good thing going... one set of rules for you, and one set of rules for them.
Picked from above:
- cops themselves are not good at following laws
- cops rarely are called to task for breaking laws by their fellow officers
- cops are not to be trusted whether in line of duty or no
- some cops like to use violence and look for excuses to do it
- cops lie like a dirty rug, there's no law against it
- cops don't like cops that try to enforce laws on cops (see above)
