Lane splitters take note...

Off topic but is it legal in Canada for bicycles or those e-bikes to lane filter when the traffic is stopped?

No but even if it was I doubt it'd be enforced, this is why you have bicycles on the damn side walk.
 
I would rather see a bicycle on the sidewalk than on the road.

It is illegal in many cities due to bylaws (I don't think it's an province wide law?) and it would be different if you were a runner or somebody that used side walks.

Also, on average, a road bike goes 30-40km/h, better to hit a car than a person going at those speeds.
 
油井緋色;2092863 said:
Doesn't look like that was caused due to lane splitting. Too fast, target fixation, locked rear tire.

And he was going too fast because he was:

A) planning on running into the back of the truck?
B) going back to the future and needed to hit 88 mph?
C) lane splitting between it and the car?
D) trying to cut some weight by shearing body parts off, so that he could fit narrower gaps in the future?
E) A typical motorcyclist?

His target fixation was on the gap between the truck and the car, problem was it weren't big enough.
 
油井緋色;2092938 said:
It is illegal in many cities due to bylaws (I don't think it's an province wide law?) and it would be different if you were a runner or somebody that used side walks.

Also, on average, a road bike goes 30-40km/h, better to hit a car than a person going at those speeds.

I don't think the cervelo & spandex crowd pursue those speeds on the sidewalk. The ones I see cruising the sidewalks are older people carrying groceries and hipsters with lame wooden baskets on the front. I could be wrong.
 
I don't think the cervelo & spandex crowd pursue those speeds on the sidewalk. The ones I see cruising the sidewalks are older people carrying groceries and hipsters with lame wooden baskets on the front. I could be wrong.

Nah, you're right - typical city riding is as low as 15, and up to ~35 km/h, depending on grade, weather & road conditions.

The sidewalk rule makes absolutely no sense in suburbia: Probably some bad injuries (bruises, concussion maybe) if a cyclist hits a pedestrian, but if a car hits a cyclist, the risk of death and serious injury is MUCH, higher. This is why cyclists obey almost no rules - bend the rules to your advantage as a cyclist: Filter to the front and act like a pedestrian at large intersections.

In the city cyclists belong on the street (where they can't hit an opening door from a store-front), and as close to the curb as possible.
 
油井緋色;2092938 said:
It is illegal in many cities due to bylaws (I don't think it's an province wide law?) and it would be different if you were a runner or somebody that used side walks.

Also, on average, a road bike goes 30-40km/h, better to hit a car than a person going at those speeds.

In Ontario, (adult-sized) bicycles are defined as vehicles under the HTA, so they're not allowed on sidewalks anywhere in the province.

Nah, you're right - typical city riding is as low as 15, and up to ~35 km/h, depending on grade, weather & road conditions.

The sidewalk rule makes absolutely no sense in suburbia: Probably some bad injuries (bruises, concussion maybe) if a cyclist hits a pedestrian, but if a car hits a cyclist, the risk of death and serious injury is MUCH, higher. This is why cyclists obey almost no rules - bend the rules to your advantage as a cyclist: Filter to the front and act like a pedestrian at large intersections.

In the city cyclists belong on the street (where they can't hit an opening door from a store-front), and as close to the curb as possible.

I'd rather bike on the road than on a sidewalk. However my commute is outside the downtown core, so the roads are way smoother and I can easily cruise at 25-30 km/h.

Plus, riding on sidewalks is TERRIBLE for speed. And when your bike has no suspension of any kind, it kinda hurts.
 
This is like someone posting a video of a guy crashing going around a sweeper and then stating "AH HA...See you fools, I told you going around curves on a motorcycle is dangerous!!". This guy sucks and out-rode him self. Nothing to do with lane splitting.
 
This is like someone posting a video of a guy crashing going around a sweeper and then stating "AH HA...See you fools, I told you going around curves on a motorcycle is dangerous!!". This guy sucks and out-rode him self. Nothing to do with lane splitting.

What this video illustrates to me are the consequences of leaving such little room for error. Lane splitting leaves zero room for error and that exponentially increases the risk of suffering disastrous consequences. In this video, the motorcycle was crushed under the wheels of the truck in the next lane - it is miraculous that the rider wasn't crushed as well. If the adjacent lane had been empty, the rider and his bike would have skidded into an empty lane after the collision instead of under the wheels of a truck. The more room you have around you when riding, the greater your room for error (ie: greater margin of safety.) IMHO, people who lane split don't fully comprehend the severity of the consequences and how quickly these consequences can occur when they place themselves in places where there is no room for error.
 
Yeah. If he tried maybe riding like a normal person he wouldn't have been in that position. Odd concept I know. That's why splitting is illegal in most areas. :dontknow:
Again, what does lane splitting have to do with this?
 
Oh nothing. Legalize it. Its the safest thing evar! Make red liner prime minister while we're at it just don't have a differing opinion


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What this video illustrates to me are the consequences of leaving such little room for error. Lane splitting leaves zero room for error and that exponentially increases the risk of suffering disastrous consequences. In this video, the motorcycle was crushed under the wheels of the truck in the next lane - it is miraculous that the rider wasn't crushed as well. If the adjacent lane had been empty, the rider and his bike would have skidded into an empty lane after the collision instead of under the wheels of a truck. The more room you have around you when riding, the greater your room for error (ie: greater margin of safety.) IMHO, people who lane split don't fully comprehend the severity of the consequences and how quickly these consequences can occur when they place themselves in places where there is no room for error.
You wrong again, lane splitting does leave room for error - which is minimized to 0 if the rider has no skill and rides like a moron but again is due to the rider and not the lane splitting action.

It's like saying track riding is dangerous because it leavse little margin for error, it all depends on the rider
 
So you honestly think of it was legal here we'd suddenly have the best riders in the world and things like this video or worse wouldn't happen? Have you seen the entitled twats on the road lately? Please.....

Not to mention the entitled cagers that would rage and cause **** to happen.

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Good luck getting anywhere on time without lan splitting outside of north america. I used to ride back in Asia, lane splitting was a part of the daily commute. You guys don't know the true feeling till you experience this.
 
Not sure what lane splitting has to do with this?

The accident happen when he was riding on the left lane


Fast forward to 35 seconds and pause. That's where he starts to turn to try and split the car and truck.

While it's true that you don't have to be a complete imbecile to lane split, it certainly doesn't hurt.

Hope you're not driving with that poor eyesight. You might want to get it checked.
 
This is not lane splitting; it's dangerous driving.

So, "Dangerous drivers take note..." is what the topic should really be..
 
So you honestly think of it was legal here we'd suddenly have the best riders in the world and things like this video or worse wouldn't happen? Have you seen the entitled twats on the road lately? Please.....

Not to mention the entitled cagers that would rage and cause **** to happen.

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You're completely right but I'm pretty sure my door prize situation while lane splitting isn't exclusive to Canada. If you look at California surveys, iirc, 25% of the drivers have at one point tried to stop someone from lane splitting.
 
Everyone in Russia is a better driver than us? When did this happen?

You haven't been reading the posts. We are the worst drivers in the world according to some of the people here.
Not only that, but the major cause is too much speed enforcement, the illegality of lane splitting, and low speed limits. Once those items get solved according to those who think this way, we will become WORLD CLASS.
 
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