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Justin Time
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sburns
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Nahh I hate to say this, and I appreicate all the logical, witty, and clearly spoken responses PP has, but for charisma and looks JT has him beat. It's sad, his appearance took him further then anything else he has to offer. I have friends and family overseas, and well sometimes these FB posts appear just mentioning JT's looks and hair, which they are all gagga for, seriously it's annoying.
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The problem is we all know exactly how he got there and even worse know he would be reelected again. The problem with bribing us with our grandchildren's money is on average, people are dumb and either dont see or dont care about the long game. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if he got a majority. The fanatics will vote for him no matter what, almost everyone getting a monthly deposit will vote for him, many of the undecided will look at his hair and smile and vote for him.
Maybe canadian citizens should be forced to pass the tests that immigrants must take prior to being able to vote. At least that would provide a baseline that people making decisions for the country had some ability to learn and think.
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Mad Mike
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This is one of the challenges that democracies face - popular always wins. Over time socialism creeps forward, eventually it's gifts turn into entitlements and those are very difficult to claw back. At some point the cost of honoring past promises eclipses the revenues a gov't takes in so budgets are balanced with borrowing.
Over time the cost of borrowing further chips away at what can be used for programs which tends to accelerate deficit spending. At some point the public becomes concerned about deficit spending and increasing debt. That's when gov'ts start to obfuscating their spending -- that's happening now under JT, that happened in the last 2 years under Wynne. Next the promises become increasingly hard to keep, so late in the game the promises are usually just vote getting lies (last year of Wynne, starting now with JT).
At some point the ruling party can no longer deliver their promises as they cannot fund them. Couple that with increasing concern over debt and deficits and PCs come to power. Sadly, the cleanup isn't easy as clawing back entitlements is messy (see Harris).
We're probably getting close to the tipping point for the Federal liberals. They have prostrated to the NDP to keep power, obfucated spending, and are doing whatever they can to coverup anything that would expose scandals or erode credibility -- pretty sure they are hunkered down hoping time will be their friend.
Libs might win a snap election, but I doubt it. PCs would need to stumble badly for a majority Liberal win today (sadly PCs have proven more than once they are capable of ******* up an easy win election).
pfbmgd
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Great points made . I can't think what the PC old run on . O'Toole has guven the PC some balls . But are people ready for reality ? The libs will go to the
Book of lies . Promise everything to everyone . My favorite is the universal child care . Been around since the 90s I think . The media will not call the libs out . After all they are on their payroll . Scheer tried to suck up to the media that would never give him a break .
Mad Mike
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Might be a good time to start recruiting rich Americans - they are close, just open a lane at the border for those coming with $5m to invest.
The 14 day quarantine is a test. Fail the test and we keep the money and send you back. We have enough entitled a*holes up here already.
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what a find!
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Yeah bring a large number of wealthy Americans in to join the large number of rich HK/mainlanders who have already been coming here. Great way to ensure the GTA and Vancouver become even more unaffordable and that regular working Canadians can never buy a home.
Mad Mike
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Those rich immigrants buy stuff that regular Canadians have to build, sell and/or service - they pour monetary fuel into the economy.
What’s a regular working Canadian anyway? And why can’t he buy a house?
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a regular working Canadian can afford a home
In Dundalk or Keswick or Trenton
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A lot of working canadians not being able to buy a home is we get to be lazy, have a great safe life and get most of what we desire. When put up against actual resistance, most canadians would collapse. My brother is paying $2000 a month in rent and refused to find cheaper accommodation or buy a townhouse because "I dont want my family to live like that". They wont buy a house that isnt renovated because there is no way they would spend that much unless it is perfect. Largely because of that attitude he is in his mid 30's with a net worth of ~0. He either wants the dream now or nothing and isnt willing to take steps to get to the dream in the future.
Those bitching about immigrants obviously havent worked with them. In general, super hard working and willing to do what it takes. I know several that showed up as refugees with nothing. One engineer took a job at a flower shop for two years while he looked for work in his field (and was separated from his family for this time as he was unable to support them in canada). How many canadian born and educated engineers would be willing to do the same thing? Another family moved here under similar circumstances 30 years ago and has built a residential property portfolio of tens of millions. I know lots of canadians that started from a much better position (not esl, education in canada, some access to money, etc) and most are very far behind on net worth while having fancier houses and cars because "they deserve it" or "they have earned it". Barf. Sadly, I think exposure to real loss or real struggle is a necessary component to conquering life instead of struggling/cruising through. The vast majority of people born in canada do not get that experience and therefore lack the drive and fire to do what it takes.
Lot of the usual right wing tripe served up here.....hardly know where to start.
Wonder how Norway and Finland get by.
www.businessinsider.com
Good place to start
and tax the predatory REITs out of existence as well.
Same problem exists in the US with even less predator control than here.
www.nytimes.com
Wonder how Norway and Finland get by.
Like the United States, Finland has a capitalist economy. Why are Finns so much happier than us?
Finland has universal healthcare, affordable childcare, free college, and copious paid vacations — and yes, it's in fact a capitalist country.
www.businessinsider.com
Good place to start
and tax the predatory REITs out of existence as well.
Same problem exists in the US with even less predator control than here.
A $60 Billion Housing Grab by Wall Street (Published 2020)
Hundreds of thousands of single-family homes are now in the hands of giant companies — squeezing renters for revenue and putting the American dream even further out of reach.
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Mad Mike
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They have fewer obstacles - small land mass, small homogeneous population.Lot of the usual right wing tripe served up here.....hardly know where to start.
Wonder how Norway and Finland get by.
Like the United States, Finland has a capitalist economy. Why are Finns so much happier than us?
Finland has universal healthcare, affordable childcare, free college, and copious paid vacations — and yes, it's in fact a capitalist country.
It’s not all unicorns and rainbows, your articles fail to mention: >20% of 24 and under are unemployed, a whopping 1 in ten Finns want to leave the country. Violence against women is the highest in the EU, as is drug and alcohol abuse.
The immigrants driving up the housing prices are not the refugees coming here with nothing and starting from scratch. I have no issues with such cases.
The immigrants driving up the housing prices are the rich international students coming here with mommy/daddy's money and buying property. These people are usually excluded from foreign ownership stats because they're considered residents after a short period of time. When I was at U of T a few years ago I met many such people. Here's how it works:
- Kid with rich parents from from a foreign country (usually China) gets accepted at U of T or other university.
- Kid gets students visas (ez pz) and moves here.
- Parents start funneling money through the kid, usually in the form of buying real estate, small businesses, etc. I knew a 20 year old Chinese guy at U of T who was the legal owner of several gas station in downtown Toronto. Explain to me how a 20 year old student with no business experience or income ends up doing that.
- Step 3 is usually facilitated by crooked mortgage brokers, lenders, casinos, real estate brokers, and lawyers who will happily accept money without reporting to FINTRAC.
- Kid graduates from university, and gets a job in Canada for a certain number of years. Within a year of graduation they are likely permanent residents due to visa fast tracking for students/new grads.
- Thanks to step 5, their property acquisitions are no longer reported under foreign ownership rules, which also means no foreign ownership taxes apply, because the owners are now residents.
- Now the money really flows. The kid now starts buying more property with mommy/daddy's money -- in most cases the houses will sit empty.
- The parents have now successfully sheltered millions of illegal money from China in the North American real estate market.
Meanwhile Joe Average and his wife trying to buy a house in the GTA on a 200k combined income are getting outbid because of Chinese buyers coming in and buying with favorable terms (over asking price, no contingent closings, etc.). The government could do something about it, but it requires a lot of effort (following the money) and would be bad for our economy (real estate market on fire == good).
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