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Just Came Back From A 6-Week Vacation 4,000 km South

We ride motorcycles right? When did it turn into the glee club?
Ya'll scared of a little vacation?


Don cherry turning in his grave

No problem with vacation, but the conversation turned to retirement. Egypt is at the top of my bucket list, but as they say "for a good time, not a long time".
 
There's a difference between the adventure of vacation and spending 6-8 mos in a ******** country when you're retired.

You can rent a decent vacation house in Florida, Nevada or Arizona for < $2000/mo, have access to first-world amenities, like health care, paved roads, sanitation with access to all the goods and services you would ever need. No jungle diseases, no locking your stuff behind steel gates at night, and the risk of being robbed isn't a 24x7 worry.

I think over time one's perspective of retirement changes, I can remember thinking a 2 bed hilltop villa in Jamacia would be my utopian dream. So I spent a few weeks there... got tired of the beggers, drug dealers, prostitutes, and a chicken and fish diet.
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I am laughing but it's actually sad... Right next to the Town Hall we have state of the art private retirement house "The Ridgewood" - I am sure it's extremely "comfortable and safe etc." but I am terrified I will end up in there without being able to travel to places without "proper health care"...
 
I am laughing but it's actually sad... Right next to the Town Hall we have state of the art private retirement house "The Ridgewood" - I am sure it's extremely "comfortable and safe etc." but I am terrified I will end up in there without being able to travel to places without "proper health care"...
Drop the beer and cigar.
 
I'm retiring right here , I'll live 4 months in Nicaragua , couple months in Peru, 2-3 month in Tahiti, maybe a month in Italy ( which will cost what the others combined cost.
One thing I have learned having been a global traveler , there is nothing like the tuna fishing off BoraBora, the best skiing will always be BC, nothing looks like the mountains in Peru, machu pichu is but one tiny part of what the Inca left. The Amazon basin is like nowhere else and waking up in September in Tuscany is just a delight.
Not I hope in heck I'm retiring to any one place until God deems otherwise. Way too much to see and do before I'm eating oatmeal with a straw.
 
Way too much to see and do before I'm eating oatmeal with a straw

I want to liquidate everything, buy a nice comfortable coach, and travel endlessly until we either go broke, or need to hit a nursing home due to our health. If both happen at the exact same time, perfect, lol. With any luck right after skidding into a nursing home I'll lose my marbles and couldn't care less if I'm eating cat food instead of oatmeal LOL.

I could be perfectly comfortable living a simpler life on the road in something like this.... maybe a bit bigger or fancier, but you can get a nice few-year old lightly used coach for <$250K.

The appeal of not having a sh!t ton of "stuff" anymore and being able to wake up with a different view out the windows every day of the week if so desired holds massive appeal to me, and I think increasingly, to my wife. Some of our most awesome memories in our hard-core years of RV travel past were just....travelling. And seeing cool things in cool places. And sometimes, just being waaay out there.

I use this photo of us out west in 2008. We woke up that morning with a view into the black hills from our living room and dinette windows while we enjoyed breakfast. Cost was $0.

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And that's just one of the more memorable places we've woke up at and enjoyed for zero cost.
 
Do they grow Bananas? If so, I'm out.
When I was 5 years old we were moving from Ottawa to Mississauga. I was in the back seat and at my feet was a bag of 10+ banana's. By the time we got to Mississauga, I had eaten all the banana's and barfed my brains out that evening. Never ate another one since, but I do like banana popsicles and banana bread for some reason.

But back on topic, a long time co-worker is from El Salvador and he left 30 years ago due to the gangs and political situation. He's now retired and owns a house in El Salvador and was telling me about the current situation there. Said it's so much improved compared to just a few years ago and is so much better now. Apparently their Covid response was much quicker to react than most other countries in the world.

It totally sounds like a place I'd like to visit, so that's going to be high up on our list of next countries to check out and ride bikes.
 
That part of the world has calmed a lot, likely due to changes in drug trade routes and increased foreign investment.

I was in Nicaragua for work 20 years ago, slept with one eye open. Returned in 2016 and it wa very peaceful, at least on the pacific side. Probably the same in the rest of Central America.

I still think expats require extra caution, not many parts of the developing world are completely safe once the local population sizes up your wallet. Its ne thing moving thru on a bike like a bohemian, another when your setup is beyond the dreams of the local population.
 
How is Australia?
Expensive ....
If you want to emigrate as I did it's $11k up front and no guarantee of success tho my situation it was almost certain.

A 3 month visitor visa is easy - like $20 and can be extended.
If you are under 35 - lots of programs for work and tour.

Healthcare top notch. Infrastructure excellent. No tipping and all prices are what you pay.
People are paid well....even in agriculture.
I did say expensive tho.
It's the size of the continental US so expect to need a couple of months.
Should be on your bucket list for travel ...not sure about for retirement tho the citizen exchange with Canada is high - it's mostly young-uns.

Western Cape is a candidate for retirement tho.


Drop dead gorgeous and your dollars go a long way ....so does the longest wine route in the world....520 km I think.
Hermanus would be superb to retire to

Spent many happy hours there ..whales at your doorstep and at the time incredibly cheap food. Veal scallopini dinner for two with a bottle of wine and desert was about $11 Cdn then.
1 Cdn dollar is 12 rand today.

While meal prices in Hermanus can vary, the average cost of food in Hermanus is R578 per day. Based on the spending habits of previous travelers, when dining out an average meal in Hermanus should cost around R231 per person. Breakfast prices are usually a little cheaper than lunch or dinner.

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on this seafront.
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Anyone watched some of those #vanlife vids? Amazing what some of these people pack into a little van. Not sure I could ever be that organised. They've taken it way past the old 1970s street vans, and they freaking live in them year round for dirt cheap. I wonder if I could ever do that. I would have to be able to mount a dual sport on the back or something. Sell it all, retire and roam.
 
There's a difference between the adventure of vacation and spending 6-8 mos in a ******** country when you're retired.

You can rent a decent vacation house in Florida, Nevada or Arizona for < $2000/mo, have access to first-world amenities, like health care, paved roads, sanitation with access to all the goods and services you would ever need. No jungle diseases, no locking your stuff behind steel gates at night, and the risk of being robbed isn't a 24x7 worry.

I think over time one's perspective of retirement changes, I can remember thinking a 2 bed hilltop villa in Jamacia would be my utopian dream. So I spent a few weeks there... got tired of the beggers, drug dealers, prostitutes, and a chicken and fish diet.
$2,000 a month to live in Arizona? No thank you. In El Salvador it will be $0 dollars for rent, we already have 2 houses. My wife's and the one I'm building. In 6 weeks I was there (plus multiple times going there), I never had a beggar come up to me, or was victim of a crime.

I refuse to live a boring, snow-shovelling retirement in Canada watching Netflix. Living there would be like being in a Toronto summer sunny day at 40 C but ALL the time year-round Here's a pic of my motorcycle adventures there;

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This pic was taken in the middle of a 160 km ride halfway across the country. Love dual-sports! There are 10x times more motorcycle riders over there than in Ontario. But one rare thing is that all of them are under 30, there's virtually nobody riding motorcycles past the age of 35 for some reason. I saw many North American tour adventurers on their motorcycles, including a Canadian with a BMW bike with British Columbia plates.
 
@MacDoc - if you get an Aus citizenship, maybe retire in NZ?

I had all plans of moving to NZ back in 2013 just because it looked so beautiful. Fast forward to early 2017, Canada was nowhere on the map for me until one day my wife, her cousins and I were chatting and we made a spontaneous decision to move here.
 
Will visit NZ for sure but we are content in Cairns - family is here and climate is very nice with the exception of a couple of wet/hot months,
You did okay with Canada.
 
Anyone watched some of those #vanlife vids? Amazing what some of these people pack into a little van. Not sure I could ever be that organised. They've taken it way past the old 1970s street vans, and they freaking live in them year round for dirt cheap. I wonder if I could ever do that. I would have to be able to mount a dual sport on the back or something. Sell it all, retire and roam.
They call them Grey Nomads here tho many are larger 1/4 million dollar caravans.

 
Our best friends have plans to motorcoach around north america in two yrs when they both retire , they figure their house would rent for $3500 maybe $4 (oakville on the lake) and that covers a fair bit of travel cash, live on the boat in the summer here and head away south in the fall.

We have dogs and cats so that aint working for us , till I kill off the cats. Smaller van conversions have become really well put together , make amazing use of space and fit places 40ft motorcoaches dont.

I feel I still have unfinished business in South America, Africa and Europe so until that travel is over , planes and cruise ships will be part of my future going forward.
 
It's great you had a wonderful experience, and I hope it works out for you. But it sounds a bit like you are viewing this with rose coloured glass's. Not to put a damper on your vacation, but you had a insider experience. You know someone from the country, they speak the language, know the in's and out's of the area, have a support network. Things most people would not have on a typical visit. Also there must be a reason why both of you are living in the GTA rather than there, if it is so wonderful and perfect. Unless I missed something?
 
Our best friends have plans to motorcoach around north america in two yrs when they both retire , they figure their house would rent for $3500 maybe $4 (oakville on the lake) and that covers a fair bit of travel cash, live on the boat in the summer here and head away south in the fall.

We have dogs and cats so that aint working for us , till I kill off the cats. Smaller van conversions have become really well put together , make amazing use of space and fit places 40ft motorcoaches dont.

I feel I still have unfinished business in South America, Africa and Europe so until that travel is over , planes and cruise ships will be part of my future going forward.
Friend of mine is touring around Florida in a trailered RV coach with 3 Labs. They build and sold 2 homes within the past 3 years and as soon as the boarder was open this past Nov they were gone.
They both somehow got earlier retierment from the CAD arm forces.
Seem to be enjoying Florida, and the dogs too!
 

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