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JT's not the only one handing out free money...

You cant honestly believe that. There is no such thing as everyone having a living wage. If minimum wage was $100 an hour, inflation would ensure they still couldnt afford a place to live. The bottom few percent of population cannot afford to live or eat, a group above them can barely afford rent and eat, etc. The hourly rates dont matter, the system will adapt and the percentages struggling/getting rich will be roughly unchanged.
Poverty is a relative number. The poorest in Canada would be considered well off in areas of other countries.

We have also been brain washed into deserving things. We don't deserve a house, we deserve the right to work for one. Part of affording a house is holding politicians accountable for their failures. Capital gains need to be addressed. Developers that surcharge projects out of the reach of the original buyers need to be hammered.

We have been to complacent for too long and the list of problems is now too hard to deal with. There's no free lunch. The government has no money. The money it spends is taxpayer dollars.

How bad is it? We re-elected someone who thinks budgets balance themselves.
 
Why use the existing system that is already setup for almost every student in the province and was used for covid bribes? You need to login to a MyOntario account and apply for this bribe.
 
You can hold someone below salary for as long as they are willing to stay there. Quit and get a better paying job. If you want to start at 8am? and leave at 4? get a couple weeks at Christmas, couple months in the summer, week in March , well there is a value in that. There is an occupational risk, nurses get kicked and beated up in the paediatic depts with the mental health kids, vet assistants get bitten, PSW in old folk homes get gropped. If you do it for the love of the job, "we do it for the kids"... oky doky. If its actually about the money, go drive a city bus , you'll get a pension.
Currently they do not have staff....they cannot keep people in the positions. Our board currently is hiring unqualified staff for some positions. Nursing is the same. They do not have enough staff. If everyone thinks that holding down wages is a good idea go into an emergency room. EA's are in the same position but we do not see it because we aren't in the classroom. We do not see how often the kids are left without the support they need if we do not have kids directly affected. IF you took your kid to emerg you see it...and EAs do not get paid in the summer.
 
You cant honestly believe that. There is no such thing as everyone having a living wage. If minimum wage was $100 an hour, inflation would ensure they still couldnt afford a place to live. The bottom few percent of population cannot afford to live or eat, a group above them can barely afford rent and eat, etc. The hourly rates dont matter, the system will adapt and the percentages struggling/getting rich will be roughly unchanged.
I don't "believe" that if minimum wage had kept up with inflation people would be way better off? The percentage of people who cannot afford rent is going up.....are you saying that has anything to do with minimum wage increasing? You have evidence that inflation is caused by minimum wage increases? Feel free to show your work. Are you saying you don't believe that full time EAs and secretaries and ECE teachers do not deserve a living wage? If we can pay Lecce 160k a year we can pay an EA 44k instead of 39k etc.
 
I don't "believe" that if minimum wage had kept up with inflation people would be way better off? The percentage of people who cannot afford rent is going up.....are you saying that has anything to do with minimum wage increasing? You have evidence that inflation is caused by minimum wage increases? Feel free to show your work. Are you saying you don't believe that full time EAs and secretaries and ECE teachers do not deserve a living wage? If we can pay Lecce 160k a year we can pay an EA 44k instead of 39k etc.
If every public sector worker deserves a living wage that is on the order of 60k (above the median wage), it is very hard to tax the private sector enough to cover that bill. You have just moved the haves and have nots around. Some people are still struggling to live.

As far as minimum wage driving inflation, it's not quite that simple. When minimum wage was $10, they were fighting for apartments at around 1000. Now that minimum wage is 15, apartments start around 1500. Move minimum wage to 30 and the cheapest apartment will be ~3000. Landlords get rich, people still have trouble getting a place to live. It is a housing supply problem. Income matters as a percentile not a number. If you are in the bottom 10% (for example), life will be a huge struggle to survive. Ensuring no public sector employees occupy lower percentiles ensures more private sector employees occupy those positions. Same number of people are struggling to live.


I think teachers should make far less (30% or so), EA's should make more (~20%). Politicians should have compensation cut by an order of magnitude and we would still be grossly overpaying for the service they provide
 
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I have to chime in here. My daughter works as an EA in the school and as 800over said their wage increases over the last 10 years has been pathetic. Caretakers and teachers are paid 12 months of the year. My daughter has to go on unemployment when school is out for the summer, spring break etc. Her gross pay for 2022 was $42,821.49 not counting UIC benefits. Her net take home pay was $34,050.70 and out of that she had to pay daycare for two kids totaling $17,291.00 which leaves her a whopping take home pay of $16,759.70.

In her job she deals with the autistic and other special needs children and is routinely kicked in the shins or punched in the face or stomach at least twice a week. So yeah, I think she deserves a decent wage so her husband doesn't have to work two jobs anymore to be able to afford the mortgage payment.

Stephen Lecce is making $165,851.00 and he and Dougie dare to say these people do not deserve to be paid a proper living wage. Makes me mad as hell!! I think they'll strike and I don't think they'll give in. They need to be paid for what they do. Anybody here want to get punched in the face a couple of times a week for less than $17k a year?
Let's break this down.

Salary: $42k for 40 weeks of work. Approx $5K in employment benefits, defined benefit pension that allows retirement after 30 yrs service.

UI is not a requirement, there are lots of summer jobs available... Sadly UI seems to be the preferred option for many education workers.
 
Currently they do not have staff....they cannot keep people in the positions. Our board currently is hiring unqualified staff for some positions. Nursing is the same. They do not have enough staff. If everyone thinks that holding down wages is a good idea go into an emergency room. EA's are in the same position but we do not see it because we aren't in the classroom. We do not see how often the kids are left without the support they need if we do not have kids directly affected. IF you took your kid to emerg you see it...and EAs do not get paid in the summer.
If you want emergency rooms to clear up, drop telephone consultation as an option for family doctors.

My daughter does some overflow emergency work, booboos and sniffles are are killing them.
 
walk in clinic around the corner from my house is telephone consults only. Seriously.
We have telehealth Ontario , yet continue to allow these guys to bill for phone work.

Telehealth is useless, anytime the missus calls they say go to emergency. Probably scared to get sued if they mess up a diagnosis. Doctor/health consults over the phone are pointless. I could probably set up a phone clinic and Dr google answers for people with the same accuracy.
 
I like pressing the answer call button and getting my prescription renewed on my drive home from work.
 
Telehealth is useless, anytime the missus calls they say go to emergency. Probably scared to get sued if they mess up a diagnosis. Doctor/health consults over the phone are pointless. I could probably set up a phone clinic and Dr google answers for people with the same accuracy.
I agree about telehealth. It seems lile low fruit to be axed as I have never heard of them being helpful. The answer everytime is if you are concerned, call 911 or go to emergency. Wtf, a recording could do that just as effectively at far lower cost.
 
School crossing guards that submitted EI forms when off for school closures instead received CERB . Some getting 2k every 2wks , more than they earned working . Some 67 yr old guy on the news last night says ‘ I’ll fight the govt, on this ‘ . And he is one of thousands that received way more than they should have .
I my payroll person handed out hundreds of thousand in excess , they would not be my payroll clerk next week .


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walk in clinic around the corner from my house is telephone consults only. Seriously.
We have telehealth Ontario , yet continue to allow these guys to bill for phone work.
There was an article I read recently and can’t find it now….Ontario reducing how much doctors can charge for phone consultations if they’re one off, to try and force the doctors to take patients in.

Of course the doctors are saying now quality of care goes down accordingly.

If the patients are repeat and ongoing treatment, 100% of payment…but if new / one time issue there’s a reduction in fee proposed.
 
There was an article I read recently and can’t find it now….Ontario reducing how much doctors can charge for phone consultations if they’re one off, to try and force the doctors to take patients in.

Of course the doctors are saying now quality of care goes down accordingly.

If the patients are repeat and ongoing treatment, 100% of payment…but if new / one time issue there’s a reduction in fee proposed.
They came to a resolution with specialists but not gp's. Rate was $37/consult, government wanted to drop it to $15 and there was uproar. Specialists kept $37. Some get another $15 in top for some reason. One generalist doc and their team (not sure how big team is) did 50k phone consultations last year and argued that lower rate would kill them. 1.8M in phone revenue down to 0.75M. No idea if that is money well spent or not. Not sure when the generalist issue will be resolved nor where it will end up.
 
Poverty is a relative number. The poorest in Canada would be considered well off in areas of other countries.

We have also been brain washed into deserving things. We don't deserve a house, we deserve the right to work for one.
You sir, have nailed it!
I'll just add you don't deserve to be successful. You do have the right to work your ass off achieve success.

It seems to have become the Canadian way. "Oh wait, we aren't all the same! Just because I don't have your energy or ambition, I still deserve!!"

Ahh...no you don't.
 
You sir, have nailed it!
I'll just add you don't deserve to be successful. You do have the right to work your ass off achieve success.

It seems to have become the Canadian way. "Oh wait, we aren't all the same! Just because I don't have your energy or ambition, I still deserve!!"

Ahh...no you don't.

Riiiight.... success often means the right and PRIVILEGE to exploit those that work their ass off chasing the dangling carrot.

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Riiiight.... success often means the right and PRIVILEGE to exploit those that work their ass off chasing the dangling carrot.

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Funny. I spent 35 years working for someone else. I never felt exploited. I've worked with coworkers in the past that think that way. Always complaining the boss has the power and money. My response was, then start your own company and be "the man". Nope, they would sooner complain.
I guess those that do well are just lucky.
 

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