Jesus christ Nissan GT-R's are fast!!

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he's the moonstar
 
Rnoodles said:
They dont look bad but it doesnt come 6 speed so its off my list. Im a Porsche fanatic. Bring the GTR's :)
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No manual? This is a requirement of mine. Just today I was looking at BMWs and I see now only the 1 and 3 series coupes seem to come in manual? None of the X models and none of the touring/wagon models. Subaru is another one that seemed dedicated to manuals that are disappearing pretty quickly unless you want a WRX, STI, or base model of something else. I'm trying to find a Forester XT in manual but the newest one I found is a 2006 that sold already.
 
Roomie said:
I wasn't talking modded. Anyone can mod any car and in that case you could hand a gtr its ***. I've seen a ford gt do the standing faster than that. There's a 997 that evolution owned that went 234 mph too. Big deal. Look at the guy that twin turbo's lambos. Stock car vs stock car.... yes impressive it's a 6 but it's not mind bending. Maybe if the car didn't look like a done up g coupe it might be more appealing.
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You really don't get it.

People who can afford this car, can afford a lot of other cars.. The GTR package, at that price point is fantastic value for $$.
 
For the price of the car sure it's a good value. I get it. Comparing a car doing a record standing mile isn't exactly the gtr you're seeing on the street nor does it cost anywhere near the same.


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Top Gear test track Power Lap Times


All the cars that beat the GTR are 3-5 times the cost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_test_track_Power_Lap_Times

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01:13.8 Pagani Huayra 19.01
01:14.3 BAC Mono 20.02
01:15.1 Ariel Atom V8 500 (moist) 16.01
01:16.2 McLaren MP4-12C 17.03
01:16.5 Lamborghini Aventador 17.06
01:16.8 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport 15.05
01:17.1 Gumpert Apollo S 11.06
01:17.3 Ascari A10 10.09
01:17.6 Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing) 08.04
01:17.7 Noble M600 (cold) 14.05
01:17.8 Nissan GT-R (2012) 17.04
01:17.8 Pagani Zonda Roadster F (Clubsport Version) 12.04
01:17.9 Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold) 12.06
01:18.3 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 12.04
01:18.4 Pagani Zonda F 07.04
01:18.9 Maserati MC12 06.02
01:19.0 Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce 13.02
01:19.0 Enzo Ferrari 05.02
01:19.1 Ferrari 458 Italia 15.06
01:19.5 Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 12.01
01:19.5 Porsche 997 GT2 12.01
01:19.5 Ariel Atom 2 300 05.09
01:19.6 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Roadster 18.02
01:19.7 Nissan GT-R 11.05
01:19.7 Ferrari 430 Scuderia 11.01
01:19.8 Ferrari 599 GTO 16.02
01:19.8 Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 09.05
01:19.8 Porsche Carrera GT 04.04
01:20.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (damp) 14.02
01:20.4 Koenigsegg CCX (without Top Gear Wing)[2] 08.01
01:20.7 Ascari KZ1 (damp) 07.01
01:20.9 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 04.02
01:21.0 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Black Series 18.05
01:21.2 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 10.03
01:21.6 Audi R8 V10 (damp) 14.02
01:21.9 Ford GT 04.08
01:22.2 Porsche 911 Turbo Convertible 15.04
01:22.3 Audi R8 V10 Spyder 15.04
01:22.3 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 04.03
01:22.3 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996 mk.II) 04.03
01:22.4 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 08.02
01:22.5 Noble M15 08.08
01:22.8 Lexus LFA (wet)[3] 14.07
01:22.9 Ferrari F430 F1 06.08
01:22.9 Porsche 911 Sport Classic 15.02
01:23.0 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series 13.03
01:23.1 KTM X-Bow (Not Shown on TV)[4] (Driven by first white Stig)
01:23.1 Maserati Gran Turismo MC Stradale 18.05
01:23.1 Porsche 997 GT3
01:23.2 Ferrari F430 Spider F1 07.03
01:23.3 Jaguar XKR-S 17.04
01:23.7 Lamborghini Murciélago (retested)
01:23.8 Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 (partly damp) 01.01
01:23.9 Aston Martin DBS 10.07
01:23.9 Koenigsegg CC8S 02.07
01:24.0 Ariel Atom 1 220
01:24.2 Veritas RS III 12.06
01:24.3 Prodrive P2 (concept) 08.05
01:24.4 Audi R8 (damp) 10.02
01:24.4 Aston Martin Virage 17.02
01:24.6 TVR Sagaris 06.07
01:24.8 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400 05.07
01:24.8 TVR Tuscan Mk.II 06.03
01:24.9 Bentley Continental Supersports[5] 15.01
01:24.9 Porsche Boxster Spyder 15.02
01:24.9 Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG 15.03
01:25.0 Noble M12 GTO-3R 01.02
01:25.0 BMW 1 Series M Coupe (damp) 17.01
01:25.0 Caterham R400
01:25.1 Lotus Exige S 08.03
01:25.3 Porsche Panamera turbo 15.03
01:25.3 BMW M3 (E90 Saloon) 10.10
01:25.7 Lotus Evora 13.01
01:25.7 Audi RS4[6] 07.02
01:25.7 Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 08.07
01:25.8 Lamborghini Gallardo (wet) 03.04
01:25.9 Morgan Aero 8 GTN 05.05
01:26.0 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series 11.02
01:26.0 BMW Z4 M roadster (E85) 08.04
01:26.0 Noble M400 (Shown on Top Gear Revved Up DVD)
01:26.0 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320 04.04
01:26.2 BMW M5 (E60) 06.09
01:26.2 Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (damp) 10.02
01:26.2 Brabus S Biturbo Roadster 09.04
01:26.3 Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S 13.07
01:26.4 Lotus Exige (mildly moist) 04.01
01:26.5 BMW M3 E92 Competition Pack (moist) 16.05
01:26.7 Porsche Cayman S[6] 07.02
01:26.7 Jaguar XFR 13.05
01:26.8 Chevrolet Corvette C6 LS2 04.10
01:26.8 Aston Martin V12 Vantage (Not Shown on TV)[4]
01:26.8 Ferrari 575M Maranello GTC 05.04
01:26.9 Lexus IS-F 12.05
01:26.9 Mercedes-Benz CLS55 AMG 06.01
01:27:0 BMW M5 E39
01:27:0 KTM X-Bow (Driven by new Stig)
01:27.1 Aston Martin Vanquish S 05.04
01:27.1 Aston Martin DB9 04.01
01:27.1 HSV Maloo 13.07
01:27.2 Porsche 911 GT3 (996) (very wet; last car tested by Black Stig prior to HMS Invincible "incident") 03.01
01:27.2 Tesla Roadster (mildly moist) 12.07
01:27.3 Spyker C8 Spyder (with hard top) 04.07
01:27.4 Aston Martin DBS (wet) 10.07
01:27.5 Audi RS5 (moist) 16.05
01:27.5 Nissan 370Z GT 13.06
01:27.5 TVR T350C 02.10
01:27.7 Cosworth Impreza STI CS400 (wet) 16.03
01:27.7 Renault Mégane RenaultSport Cup 265 19.04
01:27.9 Wiesmann MF 3 06.03
01:27.9 Chevrolet Camaro SS 15.03
01:28.0 Roush Mustang 09.06
01:28.0 BMW M3 CSL (E46) (wet)[7] 03.02
01:28.1 Renault Mégane R26.R 13.04
01:28.2 BMW Z4 sDrive35i (E89) 13.06
01:28.2 BMW X5 M (E70) (wet) 14.04
01:28.2 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ-300 11.02
01:28.2 Marcos TSO GT2 07.05
01:28.2 Lotus Elise Sport 190
01:28.2 Subaru Impreza WRX STI 11.02
01:28.3 Vauxhall Astra VXR 19.04
01:28.5 Dodge Viper SRT-10 (very wet) 05.03
01:28.6 MG XPower SV 03.07
01:28.7 Porsche Boxster S 08.04
01:28.7 Audi TT MTM Bimoto (cold tyres) 01.10
01:28.9 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-300
01:28.9 Porsche 997 Carrera S (very wet)
01:29.0 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG 04.09
01:29.0 Lamborghini Murciélago (partly damp) 01.01
01:29.0 Alpina Z8 Roadster
01:29.2 BMW M5 (F10) (Very Wet) 18.07
01:29.3 Ford Focus RS Mk II 13.04
01:29.4 Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1 04.04
01:29.6 Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 Concept 10.01
01:29.6 Ford Focus ST 19.04
01:30.0 Autodelta Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 3.7
01:30.0 Ford Shelby GT500 09.06
01:30.1 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
01:30.1 Vauxhall Monaro VXR 06.11
01:30.3 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde
01:30.4 Aston Martin DB7 GT (with full tank of fuel) 02.04
01:30.4 Volkswagen Golf R32 mk.V 07.06
01:30.8 Focus RS 500 (wet) 16.03
01:30.9 Audi S4 quattro 4.2 2.02
01:31.0 Vauxhall Corsa VXR Nurburgring (partly snowy) 18.03
01:31.0 Porsche 996 Turbo (very wet)
01:31.2 BMW 760Li (wet) 14.01
01:31.3 Vauxhall VX220 Turbo 02.06
01:31.3 Vauxhall VXR8 (wet) 10.08
01:31.3 Toyota GT86 (partly wet) 19.03
01:31.4 Audi TT Mk.II 2.0T 09.02
01:31.6 Honda NSX-R (wet) 01.10
01:31.8 BMW M3 E46 2.02
01:31.8 BMW 535d 06.10
01:31.8 Nissan 350Z
01:31.8 Mazda RX-8 03.05
01:31.9 BMW 130i (E87) 07.06
01:32.0 Renaultsport Clio 200T 20.01
01:32.7 Ford Fiesta ST 20.01
01:33.2 Peugeot 208 GTi 20.01
01:32.1 Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG (wet) 14.01
01:32.2 Ford Focus RS Mk I 01.02
01:32.2 Mazda 6 MPS 08.06
01:32.5 Renaultsport Mégane 225 Cup
01:32.5 Lotus Esprit V8 (cold tyres) 01.10
01:32.7 Audi TT 3.2 quattro
01:32.8 Jaguar E-Type (modernised) 06.05
01:36.5 Honda Civic Type-R (EP3-2004 Facelifted) 05.06
01:32.9 SEAT León Cupra R 05.06
01:32.9 Mercedes-Benz SLK350 05.07
01:33.0 Audi RS6 (very wet)
01:33.0 Vauxhall Astra VXR 06.09
01:33.0 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG (owned by Jeremy Clarkson at the time) (very wet) 01.06
01:33.1 Noble M12 GTO (wet) 01.02
01:33.2 Audi Q7 V12 (wet) 14.04
01:33.3 Volkswagen Golf Mk.IV R32
01:33.4 Cadillac CTS-V First Generation (very wet) 06.04
01:33.5 Honda Civic Type-R (FN2-2007) 10.06
01:33.5 SEAT Leon Cupra Mk2
01:33.7 MG ZT 260 04.05
01:33.7 Volkswagen Golf Mk.V GTI 05.06
01:33.7 2002 Honda NSX (very wet)
01:33.8 Clio Renault Sport 182 04.06
01:33.9 Holden Monaro (wet) 03.06
01:34.0 Renault Mégane 225 05.06
01:34.0 Renault Clio 200 Cup (Not Shown on TV)[4]
01:34.2 MINI Cooper S Works 05.06
01:34.2 Ford Mondeo ST220 08.06
01:34.7 Jaguar XKR (melted snow) 09.01
01:34.9 Ford Focus ST (wet) 07.03
01:35.0 Volvo S60 R 02.09
01:35.2 Ferrari 575M Maranello (very wet) 01.04
01:35.3 Vauxhall Vectra VXR 08.06
01:35.4 Renault Avantime (tuned by presenters) 12.03
01:35.5 Fiat 500 Abarth Essesse SS
01:35:5 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG (wet) 01.08
01:35.6 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 02.08
01:35.6 Lotus Elise (wet)
01:35.8 Citroën C4 VTS 05.06
01:36.2 Aston Martin Vanquish (very wet) 01.04
01:36.2 Renaultsport Clio V6 (very wet)
01:36.9 Alfa Romeo Brera 2.2 09.02
01:37.0 Mercedes-Benz SL500 (Ronnie O'Sullivan's) 04.04
01:37.0 Porsche Boxster (very wet) 03.02
01:37.3 BMW Z4 3.0i (very wet) (E85)
01:37.4 Honda S2000 (very wet)
01:37.9 Saab 9-5 Aero 03.03
01:38.0 Maserati 4200 GT (very wet)
01:38.06 Honda Civic Type-R (EP3)
01:38.2 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione (very wet) 11.04
01:39:0 Subaru Impreza WRX (Europe-spec)
01:39.4 Bowler Wildcat 02.01
01:40.4 Morgan 3 Wheeler 18.06
01:40.8 Bentley Arnage T (wet) 01.05
01:42.5 "Modified" Renault Avantime 12.03
01:43:2 BMW 318ti 01.04
01:44.0 Overfinch 580 S (very wet)
01:46.0 Aston Martin DB5 06.05
01:48.2 Hawk HF3000 (wet) (Lancia Stratos kit car with Alfa Romeo V6 engine – vehicle spun twice during timed lap) 14.03
01:50.3 Spitfire Bentley 18.06
02:02.5 Brutus 18.06
18:37.0 Porsche Pain Au Chocolat (Foot pedalled by Richard Hammond) 15.05
DNF Porsche 959 (Broke down during lap; Driven into garage rather than continuing the lap) 16.06
DNF Reliant Robin (Rolled on the first corner) 15.02
DNS Ferrari F40 (Car did not start; Broke down at the start line)
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Rnoodles said:
Porsche is king. The Nissan is a paddle shifting pussy car same goes with the new Ferrari's these days. Pathetic. Wheres the real cars?
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Uh, ya might want to look up the 2014 GT3's specs.

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"Manual" (clutch) shift is definately "fun", but alas is outdated. If you can afford the cars at the top, and you want to be fast....."manu-matic" is way to go. If you look at the shift spec. times (milliseconds) and repeatability you can't beat the computer, it's matching engine RPM, "clutching" and syncing shift faster than any human can press clutch in. All the roadtests confirm...."manumatic" is faster.
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Hi everyone, new to the forum...Saw this thread by accident and thought I could contribute...I can tell you that bikes - for the most part - still rule the streets. An older stock GTR cannot beat a new 600. A 2012-2014 GTR would likely hold (2012) or maybe slightly pull on (2013-2014) a new 600 as the new GTR's are about equivalent to an aftermarket tune and exhaust set up. Any GTR with a custom tune and full exhaust (Switzer P600) will give a 600 rider and even some 750's a good go (if the GTR adds injectors, intakes and downpipes). The real jump happens at the Switzer P800 level where upgraded turbos come into play. A P800 will pull on a 750 (the P800 traps about 137 MPH on average), but a new litre bike will still beat that setup despite what some of the videos show (those were Switzer R850's on race fuel which trap about 141 MPH). Once you get into larger upgraded turbos - GT3071R's and above - and fully built forged engines like the Switzer R1K and R1K-X - and these builds will pull on most litre bikes on pump gas and beat even ZX-14R level bikes when on race fuel. The R1K-X (a GT35R setup) on pump gas is equivalent to an R1K on race fuel so - although with slightly more lag - that setup will beat almost any stock bike on the street on pump and on race fuel even highly modified bikes. R1K-X's trap about 155 MPH on pump and 165-170 MPH on race fuel. That said - in order to do so - the R1K-X build is about an additional 90K so that is a lot of coin to beat even a highly modified bike. I hope that helps everyone - be safe out there!
 
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"Manual" (clutch) shift is definately "fun", but alas is outdated. If you can afford the cars at the top, and you want to be fast....."manu-matic" is way to go. If you look at the shift spec. times (milliseconds) and repeatability you can't beat the computer, it's matching engine RPM, "clutching" and syncing shift faster than any human can press clutch in. All the roadtests confirm...."manumatic" is faster.
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Fun is outdated, it seems.
 
The key here is newer 600 and litre bikes. My bike is an R1 but its 10 years old, so even a stock gtr will catch up to me relatively fast.

vtknight said:
Hi everyone, new to the forum...Saw this thread by accident and thought I could contribute...I can tell you that bikes - for the most part - still rule the streets. An older stock GTR cannot beat a new 600. A 2012-2014 GTR would likely hold (2012) or maybe slightly pull on (2013-2014) a new 600 as the new GTR's are about equivalent to an aftermarket tune and exhaust set up. Any GTR with a custom tune and full exhaust (Switzer P600) will give a 600 rider and even some 750's a good go (if the GTR adds injectors, intakes and downpipes). The real jump happens at the Switzer P800 level where upgraded turbos come into play. A P800 will pull on a 750 (the P800 traps about 137 MPH on average), but a new litre bike will still beat that setup despite what some of the videos show (those were Switzer R850's on race fuel which trap about 141 MPH). Once you get into larger upgraded turbos - GT3071R's and above - and fully built forged engines like the Switzer R1K and R1K-X - and these builds will pull on most litre bikes on pump gas and beat even ZX-14R level bikes when on race fuel. The R1K-X (a GT35R setup) on pump gas is equivalent to an R1K on race fuel so - although with slightly more lag - that setup will beat almost any stock bike on the street on pump and on race fuel even highly modified bikes. R1K-X's trap about 155 MPH on pump and 165-170 MPH on race fuel. That said - in order to do so - the R1K-X build is about an additional 90K so that is a lot of coin to beat even a highly modified bike. I hope that helps everyone - be safe out there!
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NOBODY buys a GTR and keeps it stock. It is one of the easiest cars to mod and gain massive power so yeah, if you run into one on the street (especially on the highway) it will leave you in the dust regardless of what you are riding. The only chance to beat one is from a stop and that's only until he catches you and passes you.
 
ajaxguy said:
The key here is newer 600 and litre bikes. My bike is an R1 but its 10 years old, so even a stock gtr will catch up to me relatively fast.
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Well - I checked a 2003 R1 and the internets say 10.8 1/4 ET which is still faster or as fast (2014) than any stock GTR so it really depends on your trap speed which I didn't see. I usually use trap speed versus ET for a roll race as in my experience, it best denotes the bikes/cars raw power (up to your limiter). Many of my friends ride with varying skill levels when it comes to 1/4 mile riding, but on a roll, if they trap 131 MPH (for example) - they are usually quite close to a 131 MPH trapping car. Have you ever run your bike at the drag?
 
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NOBODY buys a GTR and keeps it stock. It is one of the easiest cars to mod and gain massive power so yeah, if you run into one on the street (especially on the highway) it will leave you in the dust regardless of what you are riding. The only chance to beat one is from a stop and that's only until he catches you and passes you.
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As far as modding GTR's goes - this has been my experience as well. At least not for long...;) That said - as per my original post - bikes are still the kings of the hill (especially out of the box). As per the other gentlemans comment - for sure newer versions of (especially litre) bikes will still leave near stock GTR's in a roll race. I have never raced a bike from a stop, but I have found that this is the GTR's strength. I personally run in the 2.4 to 2.6 0-60 range from a stop - helped greatly by the awd, so I find a bikes best chance is a mid-range roll where traction and rider skill is not an issue.
 
Off the line I got the gtr no problem, but within 4 or 5 secs he has caught up to me and then is well into the future lol

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Well - I checked a 2003 R1 and the internets say 10.8 1/4 ET which is still faster or as fast (2014) than any stock GTR so it really depends on your trap speed which I didn't see. I usually use trap speed versus ET for a roll race as in my experience, it best denotes the bikes/cars raw power (up to your limiter). Many of my friends ride with varying skill levels when it comes to 1/4 mile riding, but on a roll, if they trap 131 MPH (for example) - they are usually quite close to a 131 MPH trapping car. Have you ever run your bike at the drag?
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ajaxguy said:
Off the line I got the gtr no problem, but within 4 or 5 secs he has caught up to me and then is well into the future lol
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Hmmm. I would say if you took the GTR out of the hole and 4-5 seconds later he catches and passes you - that was indeed a modified GTR. The GTR's launch is responsible for much of its good 1/4 mile time. When my car was at the P600 level I would 1/4 10.8 at 130 MPH with a good launch and traction and 11.3-5 at 127 MPH without a launch (my car is a 2010). So - that is alot of ground for the 4000 lb GTR to make up. Have you ever dragged your bike?
 
SunnY S said:
0-60 in 2.0 seconds.

The new Nissan Nismo GT-R. it's coming.
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Ya...I'm not too certain about that...there are rumours the NISMO and MY2015 GTR are getting new 7 speed transmissions - so without knowing more about its capabilities I guess its possible. That said, my car is capable of a 2.4 0-60 but I am running 1000 crank HP on pump gas. The only GTR I have heard of near 2 second flat 0-60's was the AMS Alpha Omega (at 1.79 seconds) and other 1500+ HP cars.
 
Roomie said:
I wonder how many times you'll get to do that before you're picking your transmission parts up off the road :D



I'll also believe that price when I see it.
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The transmission issue was really a 2009 thing. There was a weak circlip and a poorly tuned launch control that caused wheel hop. They improved the circlip (although that is still one of the first things one does to beef up their transmissions aftermarket even further on bigger builds) and reduced the LC to 2200 RPM's from 4500 in 2010 (my year) and then up'd it again to 3300 in 2011 and finally back to over 4000 in 2012. It was the programming that really changed however with a much less aggressive power curve that actually improved traction and 0-60 times.
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