Jeep wrangler

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I'm just managing expectations. It's going to use more gas and it is not going to ride or handle as well on the road as a number of other choices that would appear to serve the purpose. But if someone wants a Jeep ... so be it. Just be prepared for what you are in for.
 
Brian P said:
I'm just managing expectations. It's going to use more gas and it is not going to ride or handle as well on the road as a number of other choices that would appear to serve the purpose. But if someone wants a Jeep ... so be it. Just be prepared for what you are in for.
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I tell all of our "new" Jeep owners there is two kinds of people Jeep people and non-Jeep people and the first year of ownership will determine which one you are.
 
You guys are right. It will probably end up costing me more in the end. I don't have any off roading intended right now because I just don't have time to do anything.

I loved the 2 door Jeep look ever since I was a kid and since I'm not riding this year or next I wanted to get some toy that I could enjoy.

Maybe I'll get a Jeep compass... it seems affordable. How is the gas mileage on the 2012 as compared to other SUVs?
 
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LiNK666 said:
You guys are right. It will probably end up costing me more in the end. I don't have any off roading intended right now because I just don't have time to do anything.

I loved the 2 door Jeep look ever since I was a kid and since I'm not riding this year or next I wanted to get some toy that I could enjoy.

Maybe I'll get a Jeep compass... it seems affordable. How is the gas mileage on the 2012 as compared to other SUVs?
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There is a recognizable theme here..I think you should test drive a bunch, then go with your gut but spend the most time in the Jeep. Some dealers will let you take a demo for at least over night, even a w/e if u promise to not off road it.
 
nesobriquet said:
There is a recognizable theme here..I think you should test drive a bunch, then go with your gut but spend the most time in the Jeep. Some dealers will let you take a demo for at least over night, even a w/e if u promise to not off road it.
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lol never heard of a dealer willing to do that. I'll leave my car with them if they do. I don't mind lol
 
LiNK666 said:
You guys are right. It will probably end up costing me more in the end. I don't have any off roading intended right now because I just don't have time to do anything.

I loved the 2 door Jeep look ever since I was a kid and since I'm not riding this year or next I wanted to get some toy that I could enjoy.

Maybe I'll get a Jeep compass... it seems affordable. How is the gas mileage on the 2012 as compared to other SUVs?
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You'll get more *** in a TJ than you will a Compass.

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Edit: If you look, you can find low-milage TJs that are a fraction of the cost of the 2012 models... but you can't go wrong with the 2012 and the new engine... just one thing to consider before modding your Jeep, find out if you're insurance will insure a modded Jeep.

Brian P said:
Yep. And if you're only going to drive it on the road, you don't need 4wd (and having it will cost you a lot of gas over the life of the vehicle), and a solid front axle is a liability (terrible ride quality and terrible handling). The convertible is what it is, if that's what you want then so be it.
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The 4WD does help in winter. I did a winter in the TJ with only RWD (removed the front driveshaft), with no backseat and the Goodyear MT/Rs. Add in the fact that my axles are 4.10:1 and I can definitely say that it was an interesting winter!

Granted, the solid front axle is only an argument for off-road use as the ride quality is harsh... and the fuel economy is either ****** or really ****** (depending on tires, gearing, engine, etc.).

So aside from buying a Jeep to build and take off-road, there isn't a lot of practical reasons to buying a Wrangler.... but there's still something about owning a Jeep that you just can't ignore. And you don't have to take the Jeep on the trails to feel it either. Doors off, top down, stereo cranked....

If the OP is gunning for a wrangler, I suggest taking one for a test-drive
 
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EngineerJoe said:
Edit: If you look, you can find low-milage TJs that are a fraction of the cost of the 2012 models... but you can't go wrong with the 2012 and the new engine... just one thing to consider before modding your Jeep, find out if you're insurance will insure a modded Jeep.

The 4WD does help in winter. I did a winter in the TJ with only RWD (removed the front driveshaft), with no backseat and the Goodyear MT/Rs. Add in the fact that my axles are 4.10:1 and I can definitely say that it was an interesting winter!

Granted, the solid front axle is only an argument for off-road use as the ride quality is harsh... and the fuel economy is either ****** or really ****** (depending on tires, gearing, engine, etc.).

So aside from buying a Jeep to build and take off-road, there isn't a lot of practical reasons to buying a Wrangler.... but there's still something about owning a Jeep that you just can't ignore. And you don't have to take the Jeep on the trails to feel it either. Doors off, top down, stereo cranked....

If the OP is gunning for a wrangler, I suggest taking one for a test-drive
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I can't do TJ because I need new since it has to be financed and I can expense all of that etc... this is a business expense
 
LiNK666 said:
You can see why I was moving towards the wrangler. It's the closest looking thing to the TJ
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I can... and if that's what you want, then you know a Grand Cherokee, Compass and Patriot are also out of the question (saw them being mentioned earlier in the thread).

Some other things to consider.... Resale value. A Chrysler Intrepid ES and a Jeep TJ Rubicon in 2004 went for about the same price ($33,500 sticker). Today, that Intrepid may fetch $1,200-$1,500 in good running condition while the Rubicon would get closer to $9,000. Not sure what a Sahara would go for, but unmodded and unwheeled Rubicons carry value.
 
EngineerJoe said:
I can... and if that's what you want, then you know a Grand Cherokee, Compass and Patriot are also out of the question (saw them being mentioned earlier in the thread).

Some other things to consider.... Resale value. A Chrysler Intrepid ES and a Jeep TJ Rubicon in 2004 went for about the same price ($33,500 sticker). Today, that Intrepid may fetch $1,200-$1,500 in good running condition while the Rubicon would get closer to $9,000. Not sure what a Sahara would go for, but unmodded and unwheeled Rubicons carry value.
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True, I didn't really want to go all out and get a rubicon since that'll be very expensive and this probably a 5 year vehicle. Sahara could be an option. What's the difference between a Sport S and Sahara?
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