Jeep wrangler

I bought a new 2012 JKU, the 4 door. Its got the new Pentastar motor in it, good for 285ish HP and some ungodly amount of torque, with better fuel economy than the 3.8L it replaces.
Its not a sports car. But I like the ride, and honestly I can't ever imagine myself driving another 4 wheeled vehicle
Its just the most fun, full stop. And though no vehicle is an investment, they're consistently tops in resale value.
I bought mine from Eastway Chrysler, and they were motivated to sell. I got a great deal on a 4 door Sahara, just how I wanted it - manual, no soft top cloth seats, connectivity package and tow package.
Got a deal on factory rustproofing and an extended warranty.
The more I drive it the more I love it. I'm going to run this one into the ground and then buy another.
 
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rbjeepthing said:
Buy a 2012 and gas and power is no longer an issue Most of my customers are averaging 550-600km per tank tsock or modified up to 35" tall tires. Reliability is not an issue make sure you get both tops if not then for sure a hard top as they are extremely expensive to buy after the fact. The 4drs obviously ride better then the 2drs due to the longer wheel base.
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550-600 km a tank is meaningless unless we know the size of the tank.

I do 750 a tank, same a my buddies Silverado...whats the difference? my civic has a 50L tank, his Silverado has a 100l tank.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
550-600 km a tank is meaningless unless we know the size of the tank.
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I agree, but any conversation about the Wrangler and fuel economy is a non-starter. Nobody in their right mind who is concerned even a little bit about fuel economy would buy one.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
550-600 km a tank is meaningless unless we know the size of the tank.

I do 750 a tank, same a my buddies Silverado...whats the difference? my civic has a 50L tank, his Silverado has a 100l tank.
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Because we are not comparing different vehicles we are comparing Jeep Wranglers which all have the same tank only different drive-trains. The 2012 model has the best fuel economy ever for any convertible Jeep.
 
You have to ask yourself what it is that you want to do with a "sporty" Jeep?

If you're looking for a "toy" to go off-road, I suggest an "LJ", which is a 2003-2006 Jeep TJ Unlimited ("Wrangler Unlimited" in the states). It's still two doors, but there's a lot more room for people and cargo. The longer wheelbase is great when lifted too. It's cheaper than a new Jeep, which means more money for mods. You're also less likely to baby it off-road since there's no warranty (not likely), and no monthly payments. Don't worry about repair costs because you'll quickly learn how to fix stuff yourself.

If you're looking for a newer Jeep to drive around in, make sure to get the "Pentastar" engine as the 3.8L minivan engine burns oil. If you're buying new, you'll have a couple choices...

2-door vs. 4-door
I really have no idea how you intend on using the Jeep, so I can't comment.

Sahara vs. Rubicon
If you eventually want to take this Jeep off-road, you'll probably want the Rubicon. The downside is that the Rubi may be worse on gas than the Sahara due to the gearing and larger tires.
 
I want it because I always wanted the sporty type of Jeep. I don't intend on going off road with it at all. I have to buy new as this will all be an expense paid through the corporation etc...

I might lease one for 3 years if possible.

The jeep will be a commuter vehicle and carrying a lot of stuff in it. I need space so I'm going from a 4door car to a bigger Jeep or SUV.

Until I go test drive a few I won't get an idea of what to get. Won't get manual.. prolly just automatic.

EngineerJoe said:
You have to ask yourself what it is that you want to do with a "sporty" Jeep?

If you're looking for a "toy" to go off-road, I suggest an "LJ", which is a 2003-2006 Jeep TJ Unlimited ("Wrangler Unlimited" in the states). It's still two doors, but there's a lot more room for people and cargo. The longer wheelbase is great when lifted too. It's cheaper than a new Jeep, which means more money for mods. You're also less likely to baby it off-road since there's no warranty (not likely), and no monthly payments. Don't worry about repair costs because you'll quickly learn how to fix stuff yourself.

If you're looking for a newer Jeep to drive around in, make sure to get the "Pentastar" engine as the 3.8L minivan engine burns oil. If you're buying new, you'll have a couple choices...

2-door vs. 4-door
I really have no idea how you intend on using the Jeep, so I can't comment.

Sahara vs. Rubicon
If you eventually want to take this Jeep off-road, you'll probably want the Rubicon. The downside is that the Rubi may be worse on gas than the Sahara due to the gearing and larger tires.
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rbjeepthing said:
Because we are not comparing different vehicles we are comparing Jeep Wranglers which all have the same tank only different drive-trains. The 2012 model has the best fuel economy ever for any convertible Jeep.
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That being said, what's the range of a 3.8L JK? The Pentastar engine may have more power and better fuel economy, but by how much?
 
EngineerJoe said:
That being said, what's the range of a 3.8L JK? The Pentastar engine may have more power and better fuel economy, but by how much?
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Customers have been averaging 400-500km stock and 350-450 when modified. Plain and simple the 07-11 seem to be the worst Jeep ever when it comes to fuel mileage on an FI jeep.
 
You don't want to go offroad, and you intend to carry a lot of cargo and use it as a commuter??? Why exactly are you looking at a Jeep then? You are going to pay a fortune for a Jeep (compared to mini-van) and really the only reason for getting a jeep should be offroading!!

Like EngineerJoe I was also going to recommend you get the Rubicon trim as it's definitely worth the upgrade - but only if you're going to use the Jeep as it was intended!

Maybe a Patriot or Liberty are better suited for you - they look more "sporty" to me than the wrangler anyhow...
 
I have a 2010 4-door Rubicon manual. The mileage is worse that I could have expected, even coming from an 05 Pathfinder. 85 litre tank and 450 km is average. I drove a 2012 Sahara and it was a much better ride than mine, mostly due to Pentastar, but also lighter front axle, AT tires vs MT and more road-friendly gearing.

This is my first domestic vehicle and trust me, I was leery. Having said all that, no looking back for me...I would only give mine up for a 2012 Rubi with the same options.
 
I gotta agree... If you buy a Jeep it should be with some intent of using it for it's purpose. There are far more better vehicles that have better fuel economy, AWD in a nice looking SUV package.
 
rmemedic said:
I gotta agree... If you buy a Jeep it should be with some intent of using it for it's purpose. There are far more better vehicles that have better fuel economy, AWD in a nice looking SUV package.
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Name a 4wd solid axle convertible vehicle that is available in our domestic market? Simple there is only one Jeep.
 
rbjeepthing said:
Name a 4wd solid axle convertible vehicle that is available in our domestic market? Simple there is only one Jeep.
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If he's looking for something like a jeep... I admit, there is only one Jeep, but it sounds like it's only the looks he's interested in, and if that's all you buy a vehicle for and don't consider all your other needs, you won't be happy in the end.
 
So if no offroading is planned, id def go for Suby Forester,a lot better gas mileage, awesome AWD and space in the back when needed.

I understand the looks of the jeep are a lot more appealing, (as i said previously) of course there are tons of other choices, but if you want a suv looking crossover fun time...
you know what...scratch all that
you need to do some test drives ;)
 
rbjeepthing said:
Name a 4wd solid axle convertible vehicle that is available in our domestic market? Simple there is only one Jeep.
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Yep. And if you're only going to drive it on the road, you don't need 4wd (and having it will cost you a lot of gas over the life of the vehicle), and a solid front axle is a liability (terrible ride quality and terrible handling). The convertible is what it is, if that's what you want then so be it.
 
Brian P said:
Yep. And if you're only going to drive it on the road, you don't need 4wd (and having it will cost you a lot of gas over the life of the vehicle), and a solid front axle is a liability (terrible ride quality and terrible handling). The convertible is what it is, if that's what you want then so be it.
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If we chose vehicles based on practicality and cost.....
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