Are you saying he wants to quit the podcast and become a second rate landlord.
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It isn't about Joe Rogan
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Joe Rogan is dangerous. In the sense that he has such a large audience that hangs on his every word and considers him a God. To paraphrase a comment I read elsewhere, "he only has the best doctors and scientists on that everyone else is afraid to have." This is a guy that had Alex Jones (nutjob and thoroughly despicable human) on just a little over a year ago. He seems innocent enough, with the "I'm only asking questions shtick" but his questions and interview guests weave a very definite narrative.
I'm not a fan of censorship, but our society has become too stupid to properly judge what is true and not. Think of the absolutely crazy things that have found a home on a large scale on the internet as of late; flat earth, q-anon, election fraud, etc. At some point, we need to figure out how to deal with the threat of misinformation.
Quick example of Rogan talking out his ass
I'm not a fan of censorship, but our society has become too stupid to properly judge what is true and not. Think of the absolutely crazy things that have found a home on a large scale on the internet as of late; flat earth, q-anon, election fraud, etc. At some point, we need to figure out how to deal with the threat of misinformation.
Quick example of Rogan talking out his ass
Something needs to be done. I don't know what. There needs to be consequences for publishing or spreading misinformation or disinformation ... somehow.
bigpoppa
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I can see where some people are coming from, they see 1 episode, or a short 30 second clip and have an overreaction, but honestly the hysteria aint worth it.
You wouldnt take legal advice from Don cherry
or financial advice from NFT sellers
so why would you take medical advice from Joe rogan?
He's just having discussions, thats it.
Sometimes his claims end up being accurate, for instance:
1. On one episode he challenged the effectiveness of cloth masks, vs N95s. Not long after some of it was verified by mainstream outlets and scientists that they're not nearly as effective as people thought they were.
2. On another episode he mentioned covid 19 may have started out as a lab leak. In the early days, this was considered misinformation, or even racism.
Back then everyone was going along with the wet market narrative.
Eventually everyone discovered there was a virology institute nearby where they were conducting dangerous experiments with substandard safety practices and conditions etc, and its pretty much widely accepted and understood now.
You wouldnt take legal advice from Don cherry
or financial advice from NFT sellers
so why would you take medical advice from Joe rogan?
He's just having discussions, thats it.
Sometimes his claims end up being accurate, for instance:
1. On one episode he challenged the effectiveness of cloth masks, vs N95s. Not long after some of it was verified by mainstream outlets and scientists that they're not nearly as effective as people thought they were.
2. On another episode he mentioned covid 19 may have started out as a lab leak. In the early days, this was considered misinformation, or even racism.
Back then everyone was going along with the wet market narrative.
Eventually everyone discovered there was a virology institute nearby where they were conducting dangerous experiments with substandard safety practices and conditions etc, and its pretty much widely accepted and understood now.
Mad Mike
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I see Joe Rogan as an entertainer - that's it. His schtick is not unlike shock jocks, or fringe radio hosts. I can sort that out.
The problem is he is a bonafide influencer -- in the world of social media, influencers attract impressionable listeners that can't always sort the schtick from reality. Rogan is a smart guy, he's found a way to make a lot of money with controversial nonsense - IMHO opinion, selfish.
If Joe Rogan (or any other such entertainer) thought there was money to be made in talking about the importance of going to Church (or being good, or following gov't)...he'd be pushing people to go to Church / be good / follow gov't...it's as simple as that. This is what makes him, and Spotify, lots and lots of money.
I still remember a mass many years ago where the priest said something that stuck to me (and I'm not overly religious):
'The communist rule was the best time for the Church in Poland. Church was forbidden, not allowed, and punishable. The Church has never had higher attendance than during those times.'
I still remember a mass many years ago where the priest said something that stuck to me (and I'm not overly religious):
'The communist rule was the best time for the Church in Poland. Church was forbidden, not allowed, and punishable. The Church has never had higher attendance than during those times.'
You kinda just described Donald Trump.
It's exactly the same as Donald Trump. Hell Rogan may even have more actual money than Trump.
This is the dangerous part, if a man like Trump can get elected by having a rabid base...does that mean that any other 'influencer' or 'entertainer' can also become a Trump 2.0? But we're on a dangerous tradition of derailing threads here...
I'm not sure how smart trumpy is. He is obviously not a complete moron as he is able to see opportunities to exploit them but I wouldnt call him smart.
Mad Mike
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The list of Kool Aid sellers is longer than Rogan and Trump. Trudeau, everyone at CNN or FOX, the Toronto Star and Sun...
Dirty Frank
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True that but the cbc is a crown corporation.
Slippery slope there fella.
The risk for Spotify is the artists will snowball and they will be in trouble. Short term in share price. Long term??? Artists are already mad at them for the financial model so it may not take much for more to join... And this is not one dimensional at all.
So far most of the artists that are pulling their music are not today's superstars but if that starts things could get ugly... If it dies on the vine only a short term market cap hit. Or they have to throw money at the problem and pay out more, also bad for their stock price.
So far most of the artists that are pulling their music are not today's superstars but if that starts things could get ugly... If it dies on the vine only a short term market cap hit. Or they have to throw money at the problem and pay out more, also bad for their stock price.
Oh Joe….more news coming out that’s not ideal at this time…
www.theguardian.com
Also there were some reports of Spotify deleting podcasts recently from his collection.
Other artists are starting to remove their music from Spotify.
Not looking good for Joe. Although I wonder what the contract states in case he gets dropped by Spotify and what the payout would be.
Joe Rogan apologises for repeated use of N-word after footage emerges
Podcast host says sorry for ‘most regretful and shameful thing I’ve ever had to talk about’ but says remarks were taken out of context
www.theguardian.com
Also there were some reports of Spotify deleting podcasts recently from his collection.
Other artists are starting to remove their music from Spotify.
Not looking good for Joe. Although I wonder what the contract states in case he gets dropped by Spotify and what the payout would be.
‘We don’t like what you’ve done…but you make us lots of money so go sit in a corner and think about your mistakes.’
www.cnn.com
Spotify CEO condemns Rogan's use of racial slurs, but says company won't be 'silencing' him
Daniel Ek, the chief executive of Spotify, addressed Joe Rogan's past use of racial slurs on Sunday night, telling staff in a memo that while he found the comments "incredibly hurtful" and inconsistent with company values, he did not believe "silencing" the podcaster was the answer.
www.cnn.com
Sochi
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What would be funny considering Rumble is Canada-based 
torontosun.com
Podcaster Joe Rogan gets $100M offer from Trump-affiliated site Rumble
Rumble Inc, a YouTube-style website popular among U.S. conservatives, has offered Joe Rogan $100 million over four years for all his shows, days after the podcaster…
torontosun.com
I used to watch him. Despite him voting Bernie, he did mention multiple times "why is there no one younger? Why are we voting for people who are barely functional?"
Dude has a point.
Dudes like him and Jordan Peterson are desperately needed. I don't even agree with some of Jordan Peterson's stuff but Western society is so far left. Cancel culture (from the left) is 100% making it worse so I'm all for dudes like JR and JP rocking the boat; too many university/college graduates with ****** majors going too extreme left (because university/colleges are also left by tradition.)
Apparently, Joe Rogans team reviewed his previous podcasts and removed those with racially insensitive language. That was 113 podcasts nuked (out of ~1800). Spotify was not involved with the cleanse.
www.benzinga.com
Spotify CEO Confirms Removal Of Joe Rogan Podcast Episodes — But Says It Wasn't The Company That Took Them Down - Spotify Technology (NYSE:SPOT)
Spotify Technology S.A. (NYSE: SPOT) CEO Daniel Ek addressed the removal of 113 podcast episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience in a staff memo.
www.benzinga.com
Why is it that the righties are banning all the books? Not to mention cancelling anything that might make their history appear racist (it was).
Because both sides have insecure morons.
To expand on this: my fiancee and I had a deep dive discussion recently about what causes ppl to make fun of one another. The dev group I work with is brutal: if anyone shows insecurity, the whole group calls it out. Why?
For example, take a coworker that tells us he loves his wife and kids. He's also said he is content with his wife. At the same time, the sheer amount of time he spends at work and playing video games with us after work is screaming the opposite. When confronted about this, instead of doubling down and realizing he's neglecting his family, he attacks us for being bullies.
Most in that group have a zero ******** attitude but will double down if confronted about their flaws (aka. admit to it, and be proud of it), the ones who don't will attack the call outs. This is literally cancel culture or burning books.
Cowards.
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